Monarchs2468 Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 13 hours ago, bororedlion said: I think your on the wrong site ?This is a speedway forum To the best of my knowledge not a dating site for hooking up ! At least you both have a shared interest in the play offs . You sound jealous. Also the name calling on your next post was unnecessary and childish. If it's any consolation I'm happy to meet up with you too. Assuming you actually attend meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: But does Palin & Flint's improvement have anything to do with the "rising star" system! They were picked for their teams long before it was thought up & would have improved anyway! Spot on. These two would always succeed, no matter what system was in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: But does Palin & Flint's improvement have anything to do with the "rising star" system! They were picked for their teams long before it was thought up & would have improved anyway! Completely right. At the other end of the thing, the RS system has forced some teams to use riders who either were not ready or who never will be, doing nothing for these guys or the teams they were in. Redcar fans should remember that another effect of the Rising Star system was that Edinburgh were forced to make changes they didn’t want to make which sent James Sarjeant to the Bears. I’ve got nothing good to say about the Rising Star system. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Like has been said rising star waste of time,just caused more aggro within the rule book IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 So do the poor averages of many of the RS's prove the lack of success of the concept? Many have gone before and done well riding in the 2nd Division without any RS moniker tagged to them.. And many have done poorly too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Like has been said rising star waste of time,just caused more aggro within the rule book IMO. It will have saved money I would think which probably was a key for it.. It would have been cheaper surely than flying over 4 point journeymen to ride at reserve, who would then drop their average because they were not good enough, but before their averages became official, they would be replaced by another 4 point journeyman... I mean... I am sure it is a well thought out, structured path of development, which doesnt make the sport appear Mickey Mouse by its contrived, manipulative nature of operation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Have Edinburgh said when they are restaging the home tie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 minute ago, lisa-colette said: Have Edinburgh said when they are restaging the home tie? Not yet however I can’t see how we fit potential fixtures into October without some Saturday meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, crescent girl said: That's correct -- but it is Leon (and Jordan Palin's) successes that have proven the success of the RS concept. Moving on, next year's crop (which will presumably exclude these guys, plus the ridiculous "RS" like Josh Bates, have targets to aim for. No RS idea can be expected to create more than a couple of real "finds" in any one season -- on this basis, it has worked, and worked well in 2021. It’s hardly a success don’t think you can count Leon and Jordon “finds” and having to move into top 5 if average improves ,does that not defeat the purpose of giving the riders confidence.Waste of time IMO. Edited October 2, 2021 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It’s hardly a success don’t think you can count Leon and Jordon “finds” and having to move into to 5 if average improves does that not defeat the purpose of giving the riders confidence.Waste of time IMO. Doesn’t seem to be a perfect system by any stretch of the imagination but I think encouraging home grown riders is to be applauded. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 49 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It’s hardly a success don’t think you can count Leon and Jordon “finds” and having to move into to 5 if average improves does that not defeat the purpose of giving the riders confidence.Waste of time IMO. Danyon Hume and Alfie Bowtell have definitely gained through the rising star programme. Both were usually cast aside every season and have come on this season to prove their worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: Danyon Hume and Alfie Bowtell have definitely gained through the rising star programme. Both were usually cast aside every season and have come on this season to prove their worth Danyon Hume is really the only rider to have gained from the "rising star" system, everyone else who has done well was picked already for 2020, including Bowtell! RS system has worked better in the Prem in my view, giving rides to Brits instead of foreigners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Danyon Hume is really the only rider to have gained from the "rising star" system, everyone else who has done well was picked already for 2020, including Bowtell! RS system has worked better in the Prem in my view, giving rides to Brits instead of foreigners! What I meant is that both Bowtell and Hume have been overlooked in the past and not given long runs in teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: What I meant is that both Bowtell and Hume have been overlooked in the past and not given long runs in teams. It has stopped Teams training some 2nd rate foreigners and probably saved a few bob. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Any whispers of a date for Edinburgh v Redcar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Endeavour said: Any whispers of a date for Edinburgh v Redcar. I’d assume Friday this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: I’d assume Friday this week? SON will be an issue for both Edinburgh and Glasgow. I assume we won't be able to run on the Friday or Saturday when it's on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarsbar2 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jaizer said: SON will be an issue for both Edinburgh and Glasgow. I assume we won't be able to run on the Friday or Saturday when it's on? SON is on Saturday 16th and Sunday 17th, so nothing to stop Edinburgh or Glasgow running on Friday 15th, except the weather! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 50 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: I’d assume Friday this week? Forecast looks poor again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jaizer said: SON will be an issue for both Edinburgh and Glasgow. I assume we won't be able to run on the Friday or Saturday when it's on? 19 minutes ago, gmarsbar2 said: SON is on Saturday 16th and Sunday 17th, so nothing to stop Edinburgh or Glasgow running on Friday 15th, except the weather! Frustrating when they extended the cut off date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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