LisaColette Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 11:21 AM, bellevueace said: Hopefully Belle Vue will join you the so called Premiership is bobbins. Expand On 9/28/2021 at 11:28 AM, Lefty said: Can the Wolves drop down as well. A six team league is pants! Expand Down to four then, five if you include Swindon! Sure I read that they are not letting anyone else 'drop down' into the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 The replay is on Eurosport at the moment. Just shown a replay of Hans' going down in Heat 14. Quite funny to see the replay and see him give a little look to the left to see the Wolves pair leading before going down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 5:49 PM, Grachan said: The replay is on Eurosport at the moment. Just shown a replay of Hans' going down in Heat 14. Quite funny to see the replay and see him give a little look to the left to see the Wolves pair leading before going down. Expand Not funny if you are a Wolves fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 5:49 PM, Grachan said: The replay is on Eurosport at the moment. Just shown a replay of Hans' going down in Heat 14. Quite funny to see the replay and see him give a little look to the left to see the Wolves pair leading before going down. Expand On 9/28/2021 at 6:25 PM, Endeavour said: Not funny if you are a Wolves fan. Expand Perfect example of where the referee should be able to award a race even when less than half a lap completed.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 5:49 PM, Grachan said: The replay is on Eurosport at the moment. Just shown a replay of Hans' going down in Heat 14. Quite funny to see the replay and see him give a little look to the left to see the Wolves pair leading before going down. Expand Shame they threw out the “professional foul” rule which would have made his team partner start off 15 metres in the re-run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 6:25 PM, Endeavour said: Not funny if you are a Wolves fan. Expand I will tell you something else that wasn’t funny for Panthers fans. Morris falling entirely on his own in heat 3 and being allowed back in the rerun Douglas giving Palm Toft a nudge in the rerun and causing him to fall and getting injured and no exclusion for Douglas. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 5:49 PM, Grachan said: The replay is on Eurosport at the moment. Just shown a replay of Hans' going down in Heat 14. Quite funny to see the replay and see him give a little look to the left to see the Wolves pair leading before going down. Expand I think the bike got caught UNDER him... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 8:01 PM, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Perfect example of where the referee should be able to award a race even when less than half a lap completed.... Expand Agree that should have awarded 5/1 to Wolves.Hans cheated.Makes the sport look what it is “ Mickey Mouse”. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Hans done the right thing. Who cares about fair play? If it wasn't for him staying down then we would've been 43 - 41 down going into the last race and Schlein wouldn't have gambled to get the jump over Bomber off gate 4. Respect the Panthers legend for using his experience. Morris should've been excluded early in the night anyway so it levels it all out really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 10:10 AM, KingoftheTrack said: Hans done the right thing. Who cares about fair play? If it wasn't for him staying down then we would've been 43 - 41 down going into the last race and Schlein wouldn't have gambled to get the jump over Bomber off gate 4. Respect the Panthers legend for using his experience. Morris should've been excluded early in the night anyway so it levels it all out really. Expand That could be British speedway’s new tag line. We’ve had “Fuelled by excitement.” “Its better than nothing” Now, British Speedway - “Who cares about fair play” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 7:37 AM, bigcatdiary said: I will tell you something else that wasn’t funny for Panthers fans. Morris falling entirely on his own in heat 3 and being allowed back in the rerun Douglas giving Palm Toft a nudge in the rerun and causing him to fall and getting injured and no exclusion for Douglas. Expand Bad refereeing doesn't excuse cheating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 7:37 AM, bigcatdiary said: I will tell you something else that wasn’t funny for Panthers fans. Morris falling entirely on his own in heat 3 and being allowed back in the rerun Douglas giving Palm Toft a nudge in the rerun and causing him to fall and getting injured and no exclusion for Douglas. Expand Certainly good old fashioned 'homer ref' decisions 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) No one has mentioned the IRR situation for MPT, i for one didn't think it could be used when RR was already in use, but with the no TS rule in place was it a case of the IRR was permitted therefore in the play offs and not a normal league match ? Edited September 29, 2021 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 12:32 PM, scoobydoo said: No one has mentioned the IRR situation for MPT, i for one didn't think it could be used when RR was already in use, but with the no TS rule in place was it a case of the IRR was permitted therefore in the play offs and not a normal league match ? Expand Tbh i don't see an issue with it, a team with an injured rider shouldn't be punished imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 12:32 PM, scoobydoo said: No one has mentioned the IRR situation for MPT, i for one didn't think it could be used when RR was already in use, but with the no TS rule in place was it a case of the IRR was permitted therefore in the play offs and not a normal league match ? Expand IRR is permitted when using RR.It happened at Lynn,funnily enough against Peterborough.Lynn had RR for Riss and Schlein was guesting at no1.Schlein injured after his 2nd race and Lynn then used IRR for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Another thing I forgot to add. If it was Douglas or Nicol who fell in Heat 14 and either saw the Panthers on a 5 - 1 do you think either would've gotten up to allow the race to continue knowing full well it would be a body blow to Wolves as a team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 12:32 PM, scoobydoo said: No one has mentioned the IRR situation for MPT, i for one didn't think it could be used when RR was already in use, but with the no TS rule in place was it a case of the IRR was permitted therefore in the play offs and not a normal league match ? Expand On 9/29/2021 at 12:44 PM, tellboy said: IRR is permitted when using RR.It happened at Lynn,funnily enough against Peterborough.Lynn had RR for Riss and Schlein was guesting at no1.Schlein injured after his 2nd race and Lynn then used IRR for him. Expand The regs must therefore have been altered as previously it was clearly stated that IRR could not be used when RR was already in operation Arguably a sensible change (see there are some!) but would interesting if someone is able to copy paste the extract from the regs to clarify if/when it happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) On 9/29/2021 at 12:44 PM, tellboy said: IRR is permitted when using RR.It happened at Lynn,funnily enough against Peterborough.Lynn had RR for Riss and Schlein was guesting at no1.Schlein injured after his 2nd race and Lynn then used IRR for him. Expand Just thought i had read it couldn't be used with RR its good it can be used and was introduced to cover for a rider who was injured during a meeting it at least limits the 3 rider races as well Edited September 29, 2021 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 12:52 PM, scoobydoo said: Just thought i had read it couldn't be used with RR its good it can be used and was introduced to cover for a rider who was injured during a meeting it at least limits the 3 rider races as well Expand Page 113 of the regs There is no longer reference to irr not being available when rr is in use so it has indeed been changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) On 9/29/2021 at 12:51 PM, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The regs must therefore have been altered as previously it was clearly stated that IRR could not be used when RR was already in operation Arguably a sensible change (see there are some!) but would interesting if someone is able to copy paste the extract from the regs to clarify if/when it happened Expand Not in the 2020 regs that you can`t use both - nor in the supp regs for 2021 Where the maximum number of rides is specified, in the case of a rider (1- 5 by MA) the maximum number of rides includes 4 programme rides plus, one as a TS, RR, IRR and 1 in the Heat 15, to a maximum of 7 rides. Edited September 29, 2021 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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