BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, chrismorton said: There's no way I would break this team up to fit Iversen in...spent force. I agree. NKI seems to get injured far too often these days. 14 minutes ago, B.V 72 said: If this team is possible under the new points limit .In my opinion i can't see them being the power house they were this season without a very high scoring reserve in every meeting. I fully agree tbh. However I would still go with the team I mentioned as I feel it's only fair to the riders who won the title to give them the opportunity to defend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, scoobydoo said: Is Ostergaard still the only asset that Peterborough have ? , who owns Nicholls, Harris registrations ,is Palm Toft still a Scunthorpe asset Maybe Ostergaard will be included over someone whose registration requires a loan fee Ostergaard will be in regardless imo as he eats, sleeps and breathes Peterborough Speedway. Don't get riders like him these days who care so much about the employer and everyone associated to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 Good news. I looked up on the Palin situation and he's a Scunthorpe asset so fingers crossed we can get him back. MPT, Hans, Ostergaard, Harris, Nicholls, Palin & Jack Thomas will do just nicely........Thank you Buster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, B.V 72 said: If this team is possible under the new points limit .In my opinion i can't see them being the power house they were this season without a very high scoring reserve in every meeting. This years team was written off by pretty much everyone early doors, it didn’t stop them winning the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted October 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 Looks like people will make the same mistakes again if they write Panthers off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: This years team was written off by pretty much everyone early doors, it didn’t stop them winning the league. I am not talking of this years team the manager nailed it with his team choices and his tactical use of a high scoring reserve they well deserved to be champions. I am talking about keeping the same team( as mentioned by some Panthers fans} bar Pedersen and replacing him with a rising star {which seem the way its going } for next season. Without an experienced high scoring reserve next years team {as stated above{ in my opinion will not be anywhere near as powerful as this years. Not mentioning how effective an high scoring reserve through the whole season was. Lets just look at the 4 play off meetings for an example The high scoring reserves scored 46 points over the 4 meetings 9 of these points were from tactically replacing rising star rider Palin with said riders and if i am right were only used once as a R/R which resulted in a pointless ride. Which again in my opinion won you the league and play offs. So this explains my thinking as to why next years proposed team will be nowhere near as good as this years. Edited October 20, 2021 by B.V 72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 To be fair lads B.V 72 does make a good point. Replacing a reserve who'll score 10+ a meeting for another rising star really is a game changer. As I said earlier though I would bring all 6 back from this year purely because I think it's only fair the same riders get the chance to defend the title they won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 If Peterborough were to pick up another RS in the mould of say Tom Brennan its possible they could still have roughly the same top 5 plus Palin and a high scoring reserve again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: If Peterborough were to pick up another RS in the mould of say Tom Brennan its possible they could still have roughly the same top 5 plus Palin and a high scoring reserve again If it's two rising stars then I would think teams would keep the same rising star they used this season tbh. But yes I do agree with your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 17 hours ago, Flappy said: Looks like people will make the same mistakes again if they write Panthers off Yes and Kings Lynn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 1:16 PM, scoobydoo said: Is Ostergaard still the only asset that Peterborough have ? , who owns Nicholls, Harris registrations ,is Palm Toft still a Scunthorpe asset Maybe Ostergaard will be included over someone whose registration requires a loan fee It makes no difference who holds a registration riders will ride where they want. They are self employed & their seasonal contact expires at the end of October unless they signed a multi year deal. The registration system only still exists as the promotors keep it going as goodwill, if it were ever tested in a court of law it wouldn't survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 The thing the Panthers need to be a little careful of next season, is a few of their riders have slightly over inflated averages having had a high scoring stint at reserve. Get the second RS rider right though, and you will start off with a decent team,,, but maybe a team that won't have much as much improvement in it as others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: It makes no difference who holds a registration riders will ride where they want. They are self employed & their seasonal contact expires at the end of October unless they signed a multi year deal. The registration system only still exists as the promotors keep it going as goodwill, if it were ever tested in a court of law it wouldn't survive. Im aware they ride were they want but my point was that Ostergaard would have an advantage over the other members of Dads Army due to Peterborough holding his registration if they do that is, including him over Andersen for example means no loan fee paid to Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Im aware they ride were they want but my point was that Ostergaard would have an advantage over the other members of Dads Army due to Peterborough holding his registration if they do that is, including him over Andersen for example means no loan fee paid to Poole In the context of overall seasonal budgets, loan fees are a minor expenditure and unlikely to influence a signing decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: It makes no difference who holds a registration riders will ride where they want. They are self employed & their seasonal contact expires at the end of October unless they signed a multi year deal. The registration system only still exists as the promotors keep it going as goodwill, if it were ever tested in a court of law it wouldn't survive. This has been stated many times over - yet nobody has ever tested it!! I wonder why?.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: This has been stated many times over - yet nobody has ever tested it!! I wonder why?.......... ££ - what you need is 6/8 riders challenging it as a test case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 10/20/2021 at 10:33 AM, B.V 72 said: I am not talking of this years team the manager nailed it with his team choices and his tactical use of a high scoring reserve they well deserved to be champions. I am talking about keeping the same team( as mentioned by some Panthers fans} bar Pedersen and replacing him with a rising star {which seem the way its going } for next season. Without an experienced high scoring reserve next years team {as stated above{ in my opinion will not be anywhere near as powerful as this years. Not mentioning how effective an high scoring reserve through the whole season was. Lets just look at the 4 play off meetings for an example The high scoring reserves scored 46 points over the 4 meetings 9 of these points were from tactically replacing rising star rider Palin with said riders and if i am right were only used once as a R/R which resulted in a pointless ride. Which again in my opinion won you the league and play offs. So this explains my thinking as to why next years proposed team will be nowhere near as good as this years. Was very much a 1992 copy: Jason Crump comes in on a 2 and finishes the season on an 8.4 just below the Panthers legend that is Mick Poole. When such events happen then you're laughing, as were Panthers 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismorton Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 After watching the S.O.N I'm sure Bellego and Berge will be in demand..could be an option.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 Bellego has a ride in polish top division,,, so would he really do UK as his other league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismorton Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 Yeah probably..that Swedish lad looked decent too...reminded me of a young Ulrich.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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