Bagpuss Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Surely this is nothing unexpected, plus if I've read it right it will be four years before anything happens and assuming this guy is honest they want to find the speedway a new home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Surely this is nothing unexpected, plus if I've read it right it will be four years before anything happens and assuming this guy is honest they want to find the speedway a new home. I've read it like you another 3 or 4 years and that's if they get all the plans passed which theres been big doubts about , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Buster is cool with it = There's nothing Buster can do about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Needs to be taken with large pinch of salt ,but implies/hints that Panthers to be re located. I also read that it will take a minimum of 4 years. Could be a good idea if someone from Panthers would elaborate. A flight of pigs has just flown past my window Edited March 17, 2022 by wealdstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINYS Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 hours ago, NeilWatson said: https://www.peterboroughmatters.co.uk/local-news/first-look-a-plan-for-ortons-50m-leisure-future-and-1600-homes-2250908?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook A vision of Orton's potential future with up to 50 acres of leisure and 1,600 homes on the site of the current East of England Arena has been revealed. The site could boast new outdoor areas, a swimming pool, cinema, and golf driving range, among many other leisure options, complementing restaurants and cafes and also co-working spaces, should an ambitious plan be passed. The changes would spell the end for events such as Truckfest and the Fireworks Fiesta, and the need for relocation for the Peterborough Panthers speedway team. There would also be a need for the council's local plan for the area to be enhanced. Ashley Butterfield, the enthusiastic CEO of Asset Earning Power Group which has put the plan together, says the development will only be for "the improvement of the City and adjacent communities". An original plan for 650 homes included in the council's Local Plan was not delivering the full opportunity in the boundary space of 164 acres, hence the planned increase to around 1,600 units. So after many iterations the proposed master plan, to be seen above, would deliver around 650 homes to the north-east of the site, with a separate planning application to be put forward for the leisure offering and around 950 homes to the west and south. Those are likely to include a range of 'future-proofed' net carbon zero units: affordable homes, Build to Rent properties, private rented, housing association and open market owner-occupancy. Mr Butterfield said the idea was first put forward two-and-a-half years ago, and would represent a radical change for both the Ortons and how Peterborough defines leisure and residential property working alongside one another. Speaking from AEPG's site at the Arena, he said: "This is not another housing development - we are passionate about knitting it together with leisure to make it stand out on the map. We're working with the council, Nene Park Trust, and ward councillors, to make it work. "We're currently in discussion with potential development partners - we need to make sure they're the right ones. This 50-acre leisure development will be owned by AEPG in perpetuity, so it's not like we're coming in, building it and disappearing. "It's a unique approach to a development. When I met with the landowner - the East of England Agricultural Society - they had a choice. They had 650 homes allocated, but they knew the site was obviously a site for future development for 1600 homes. "They didn't want to build boxes - this is their land and their legacy. So they wanted of course to maximise on value for the charity, but to leave something special." The 50-acre parcel of land to the south-east would be earmarked for between £30m and £50m of leisure, the exact nature of which is still unknown. A few events will definitely leave the site such as Truckfest, but even if the development is passed it will be three or four years at the very earliest before the event needs to move on. Similarly, Mr Butterfield said that he has consulted with Buster Chapman who owns Peterborough Panthers, He said: "Buster is cool with it. It costs us a lot of money - electricity, water, upkeep and maintenance - and isn't sustainable. "I explained to him that I would continue to absorb the costs. He always knew that there was going to be development, and was happy to work with us until it ended here." In September Alistair Beattie, interim CEO of the East of England Agricultural Society, said: “The end of the three-day agricultural show in 2012 meant that the showground was no longer essential to the future of the Society. "Our alliance with AEPG allows the development of the leisure facilities and wider site, leaving the Society to focus on its charitable aims of promoting agriculture, education, and rural life." When is all this supposed to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Let's hope relocation doesn't mean being "relocated to the annals of speedway history", like so many sadly have been before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Is there land available to the West of the A1 or just a few miles up the A1? Is there land available near the lakes to the South? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 If they can relocate,, I hope they use the current track as a blueprint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, TINYS said: When is all this supposed to happen. The article isn’t explicit, but ‘A few events will definitely leave the site such as Truckfest, but even if the development is passed it will be three or four years at the very earliest before the event needs to move on.’ suggests the changes aren’t imminent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Sad to say I think you Peterborough fans have to treat every season from now on as it could be the last one and enjoy it whilst you can ( no different to most clubs really). Will Buster lose interest more quickly and pull out of the showground at the first opportunity?.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Good bit of business by Buster as he'd just move all assets to King's Lynn's books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Good bit of business by Buster as he'd just move all assets to King's Lynn's books Do Boro have any great list of assets? Didn't the majority transfer to Poole with the Frost sponsorship some years ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 is the greyhound track still there? Is that a possibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, ch958 said: is the greyhound track still there? Is that a possibility? https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/new-owners-take-over-at-peterborough-greyhound-stadium-after-sale-deal-agreed-3230187 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Do Boro have any great list of assets? Didn't the majority transfer to Poole with the Frost sponsorship some years ago? Of course but they would have taken on a new asset list since Buster's ownership surely. Buster has a good business brain & there's absolutely no way he'd of taken on a club with no assets to fall back on. He knew from the start that the stadium was at risk, so he must have something to gain if the club folds?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Good bit of business by Buster as he'd just move all assets to King's Lynn's books At this moment in time Peterborough Speedway is operating because of Keith Chapman and after a season we have just had it’s hardly fair to knock him is it. I don’t see a big queue of people attempting to take over from him either, even though he is open to offers. As Neil Watson says this plan needs to be approved and will take years to come to fruition even if it is allowed, a lot could still change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 First meeting back for Ulrich tonight at Scunthorpe hopefully he shows no lasting effects of his injuries from last season and he eases himself back in the groove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, scoobydoo said: First meeting back for Ulrich tonight at Scunthorpe hopefully he shows no lasting effects of his injuries from last season and he eases himself back in the groove He doesn't know how to ease himself in after injury. It will be normal chaos resumed from race one. That's why we all love watching him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) On 3/17/2022 at 9:38 PM, Daniel Smith said: Of course but they would have taken on a new asset list since Buster's ownership surely. Buster has a good business brain & there's absolutely no way he'd of taken on a club with no assets to fall back on. He knew from the start that the stadium was at risk, so he must have something to gain if the club folds?? I can't see how he would gain if the club folds.. He must of shelled out a fair wedge when he took over, and surely get nothing back if it folds? Don't know what assets (If any) Buster has signed since he's been there tbh. Edited March 19, 2022 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I can't see how he would gain if the club folds.. He must of shelled out a fair wedge when he took over, and surely get nothing back if it folds? Don't know what assets (If any) Buster has signed since he's been there tbh. Think the best you'll get is Ostergaard , some track equipment and maybe Rob Lyon back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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