bigcatdiary Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 A few Panthers fans seem reluctant to include Ostergaard or Andersen in the team for 2022, not quite sure why because both contributed well to our last two Champions years of 2006 and 2021 and it’s clear they are well liked by both the fans and management. For what it’s worth I think our side will be little changed for 2022 on the basis why change a team when it’s clearly a winning side, obviously one change has to be made for the retirement of Pedersen but other than that I see little point in unsettling what was clearly a great team that rode well together and clearly gelled from day one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: A few Panthers fans seem reluctant to include Ostergaard or Andersen in the team for 2022, not quite sure why because both contributed well to our last two Champions years of 2006 and 2021 and it’s clear they are well liked by both the fans and management. For what it’s worth I think our side will be little changed for 2022 on the basis why change a team when it’s clearly a winning side, obviously one change has to be made for the retirement of Pedersen but other than that I see little point in unsettling what was clearly a great team that rode well together and clearly gelled from day one. I for one would be happy with last years team. I suspect re Ostergaard however many will be worried about his fitness and the fact that his performance this year was way above expectations and fears it could not be repeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: A few Panthers fans seem reluctant to include Ostergaard or Andersen in the team for 2022, not quite sure why because both contributed well to our last two Champions years of 2006 and 2021 and it’s clear they are well liked by both the fans and management. For what it’s worth I think our side will be little changed for 2022 on the basis why change a team when it’s clearly a winning side, obviously one change has to be made for the retirement of Pedersen but other than that I see little point in unsettling what was clearly a great team that rode well together and clearly gelled from day one. I would have them both back out of sentiment however it's going to be a really tough ask for both riders to maintain the 7 point averages imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: A few Panthers fans seem reluctant to include Ostergaard or Andersen in the team for 2022, not quite sure why because both contributed well to our last two Champions years of 2006 and 2021 and it’s clear they are well liked by both the fans and management. For what it’s worth I think our side will be little changed for 2022 on the basis why change a team when it’s clearly a winning side, obviously one change has to be made for the retirement of Pedersen but other than that I see little point in unsettling what was clearly a great team that rode well together and clearly gelled from day one. They all deserve to be back for sure after this season but all the other premiership teams will be strengthening up and Panthers may need to make some changes to counteract there moves or find themselves lagging behind , If Chris Harris was going to Oxford dont think that would of done his cause to many favours if he had told Peterborough of his decision to move on Ulrich could be a gamble not quite so much his average more his fitness and Hans average was based more on his reserve scores , so you can see why there's possible uncertainty, if they keep the same top 5 then Pedersens replacement needs to be the right one with a solid improvement of average required. Edited November 18, 2021 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted November 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 If they keep that top 5 then there's 4.33 to play with to find this season's Ostergaard. Ostergaard is a bigger gamble than Hans in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Has any Panthers fans brought one of the Champions canvas prints yet? If yes how big does the canvas look in person as I'm thinking of getting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 6 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: A few Panthers fans seem reluctant to include Ostergaard or Andersen in the team for 2022, not quite sure why because both contributed well to our last two Champions years of 2006 and 2021 and it’s clear they are well liked by both the fans and management. For what it’s worth I think our side will be little changed for 2022 on the basis why change a team when it’s clearly a winning side, obviously one change has to be made for the retirement of Pedersen but other than that I see little point in unsettling what was clearly a great team that rode well together and clearly gelled from day one. It's more the fact that they might both struggle to maintain their averages next season. Our success was having a strong reserve, & keeping the team minus Pedersen will take that advantage away in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, proud panther said: It's more the fact that they might both struggle to maintain their averages next season. Our success was having a strong reserve, & keeping the team minus Pedersen will take that advantage away in my opinion. I don't think that summing up of their success is an opinion. It's a fact very unlikely to be replicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 It seems from the update in Speedway Star that Panthers are going for the 'Dad's Army' approach again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) One important thing to remember is that the Panthers side accrued a lot of bonus points last year. They are on false averages. Ulrich's actual average for 2021 was 8.04, but his GSA Is only 7.17. This is because he finished 2nd behind a Panthers rider in a 5-1, only 2 points goes on his average. This is the same for the below. Hans - 7.92 average, but only 7.09 GSA Toft - 8.04 average, but only 7.17 GSA Harris - 7.71 average, but only 7.02 GSA Nicholls - 7.56 average, but only 6.71 GSA I wouldn't mind seeing Ulrich, Hans, Harris, Toft and Nicholls back as a top 5. It may not be good for the whole league though. British speedway needs to be competitive, otherwise, fans will lose interest. Edited November 18, 2021 by KeirStarmerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Skidder1 said: It seems from the update in Speedway Star that Panthers are going for the 'Dad's Army' approach again! Wouldn't want it any other way myself, it's just whether signing Ostergaard is a gamble worth taking. Finding the right replacement for Bjarne will be the deciding factor Edited November 19, 2021 by Flappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 13 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said: One important thing to remember is that the Panthers side accrued a lot of bonus points last year. They are on false averages. Ulrich's actual average for 2021 was 8.04, but his GSA Is only 7.17. This is because he finished 2nd behind a Panthers rider in a 5-1, only 2 points goes on his average. This is the same for the below. Hans - 7.92 average, but only 7.09 GSA Toft - 8.04 average, but only 7.17 GSA Harris - 7.71 average, but only 7.02 GSA Nicholls - 7.56 average, but only 6.71 GSA I wouldn't mind seeing Ulrich, Hans, Harris, Toft and Nicholls back as a top 5. It may not be good for the whole league though. British speedway needs to be competitive, otherwise, fans will lose interest. So Ulrich and MPT had identical figures ? or have you included the wrong figures for Ulrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, scoobydoo said: So Ulrich and MPT had identical figures ? or have you included the wrong figures for Ulrich Ulrich is 7.09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 14 hours ago, Skidder1 said: It seems from the update in Speedway Star that Panthers are going for the 'Dad's Army' approach again! Same approach and same result hopefully !!!! but it doesn't mean the same riders will be playing all the same parts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Same approach and same result hopefully !!!! but it doesn't mean the same riders will be playing all the same parts As I've said many times the below 5 should be nailed on it's those final 2 spots up for discussion. Could Bjarne be tempted by one more year? It wouldn't be the first time a rider has retired and fancied another go. 11.4 or 4.31 depending on the route taken MPT Andersen Harris Nicholls Palin Edited November 19, 2021 by Flappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Flappy said: As I've said many times the below 5 should be nailed on it's those final 2 spots up for discussion. MPT Andersen Harris Nicholls Palin It's looking like those 5 will be there ,Ulrich seems to be going back to Glasgow in the CL , if hes included with those 5 the 4.33 left will imo make Peterborough weaker than this season so maybe some tweaking is required Edited November 19, 2021 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 9 hours ago, scoobydoo said: It's looking like those 5 will be there ,Ulrich seems to be going back to Glasgow in the CL , if hes included with those 5 the 4.33 left will imo make Peterborough weaker than this season so maybe some tweaking is required We don't need to be as strong as last year. We can be slightly weaker and still be dominant champions. The Panthers bar is set so high that even a small drop off would still beat the rest of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Are you sure scot Nicholls will be back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, KeirStarmerFan said: We don't need to be as strong as last year. We can be slightly weaker and still be dominant champions. The Panthers bar is set so high that even a small drop off would still beat the rest of the league. What a complete load of Northampton Town Football Club Edited November 19, 2021 by scoobydoo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted November 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Trackerman48 said: Are you sure scot Nicholls will be back? See absolutely no reason why he wouldn't be, why what have you heard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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