szkocjasid Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 1:10 PM, TeamBouchard said: Possibly in future years (if there are indeed any future years for speedway) we could simplify the process of the play offs. Rather than waiting until the 'magical cut off date' is reached in September, the 'hastily organised meeting of promoters' should be held immediately the two teams who can't make the play-offs are known (Ipswich/Kings Lynn this season which has been known for weeks). Then simply use mileage between tracks to set up the semi finals rather than faffing about for weeks to see the finishing order. This means the play offs could be in August with better weather, bigger crowds. Scrap any fixtures unridden, saving promoters ££££'s. Could be a winner for everyone. Today's announcement is just another reason why no one outside of the sport shows any interest in it. The one 'sport' that genuinely makes it up as it goes along, year after year after year! Not good for fans with season tickets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 BSPL seemingly doing all they can to get the p.off final to be on TV at the “National Speedway Stadium” that much over hyped racetrack in Manchester. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, old bob at herne bay said: BSPL seemingly doing all they can to get the p.off final to be on TV at the “National Speedway Stadium” that much over hyped racetrack in Manchester. Bitter much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 No not at all - it’s almost as funny as the much over hyped “Millenium Stadium” Give me Hyde Road any day over the “National Speedway Stadium” … all I have ever seen at the “NSS” is 4 riders getting further and further apart as the “race” progresses…. And the TV pundits continually telling me what a wonderful track it is …….. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: No not at all - it’s almost as funny as the much over hyped “Millenium Stadium” Give me Hyde Road any day over the “National Speedway Stadium” … all I have ever seen at the “NSS” is 4 riders getting further and further apart as the “race” progresses…. And the TV pundits continually telling me what a wonderful track it is …….. Obviously you don’t watch much racing from the NSS then. Not every race is going to be a thriller, but when 2 or more are more of an even match the heat turns up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 4:41 PM, gazzac said: Time to revert to league toppers at the end of the season crowned champions. Old argument but any hint of credibility the playoffs had (if they ever did) has gone totally now. Not a case of 'who dares wins' now, as 'who cares wins'. Yes and the top 4 can race for the ko cup or craven shield. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 7:09 PM, TINYS said: I,ve never agreed with playoffs if you finish top you win the league simple as that. Even more so with only six teams, farcical that a team fourth out of six could be champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, noggin said: Even more so with only six teams, farcical that a team fourth out of six could be champions. A team in the bottom half can be Champions,how's that sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, tellboy said: A team in the bottom half can be Champions,how's that sound Absurd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, tellboy said: A team in the bottom half can be Champions,how's that sound Sounds OK to me 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 7 hours ago, noggin said: Even more so with only six teams, farcical that a team fourth out of six could be champions. C’mon Sheffield :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 If Troy shows some form Sheffield are more than capable of becoming p/off winners . Congrats to “Dads Army” for being the best team overall this season. A remarkable performance from a team of experienced riders who have frankly demonstrated how poor the “ best of the rest “ are in UK speedway 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS1 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 10 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: No not at all - it’s almost as funny as the much over hyped “Millenium Stadium” Give me Hyde Road any day over the “National Speedway Stadium” … all I have ever seen at the “NSS” is 4 riders getting further and further apart as the “race” progresses…. And the TV pundits continually telling me what a wonderful track it is …….. think you need a trip to spec savers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Steve0 said: C’mon Sheffield :-) Lol, c'mon Adam & Troy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 23 hours ago, noggin said: Even more so with only six teams, farcical that a team fourth out of six could be champions. Not really farcical though, that was known at the start of the season. The regular season is simply qualifying for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/22/2021 at 4:41 PM, gazzac said: Time to revert to league toppers at the end of the season crowned champions. Old argument but any hint of credibility the playoffs had (if they ever did) has gone totally now. Not a case of 'who dares wins' now, as 'who cares wins'. Tend to agree. However doing away with play-offs would leave a big black hole, with the season finishing for most teams in August. How about introducing an end-of-season trophy competition with all teams taking part on a knock-out basis for a big sponsored trophy (e.g. the Eurosport National Speedway Trophy)? All six teams go into hat to decide their opponents in the first round and race off home and away. The three winners then go into a pool and race off against each other home and away to decide the winner. I reckon this beats the play-off charade, whereby the team finishing fourth out of six can end up being crowned league champs. What's more, I can't see any reason why Eurosport wouldn't be willing sponsors. Other team sports seem to exist quite well with side-by-side league and cup competitions, why not speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, 4thbender said: Tend to agree. However doing away with play-offs would leave a big black hole, with the season finishing for most teams in August. How about introducing an end-of-season trophy competition with all teams taking part on a knock-out basis for a big sponsored trophy (e.g. the Eurosport National Speedway Trophy)? All six teams go into hat to decide their opponents in the first round and race off home and away. The three winners then go into a pool and race off against each other home and away to decide the winner. I reckon this beats the play-off charade, whereby the team finishing fourth out of six can end up being crowned league champs. What's more, I can't see any reason why Eurosport wouldn't be willing sponsors. Other team sports seem to exist quite well with side-by-side league and cup competitions, why not speedway? The big problem there is "big sponsored trophy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, 4thbender said: Tend to agree. However doing away with play-offs would leave a big black hole, with the season finishing for most teams in August. How about introducing an end-of-season trophy competition with all teams taking part on a knock-out basis for a big sponsored trophy (e.g. the Eurosport National Speedway Trophy)? All six teams go into hat to decide their opponents in the first round and race off home and away. The three winners then go into a pool and race off against each other home and away to decide the winner. I reckon this beats the play-off charade, whereby the team finishing fourth out of six can end up being crowned league champs. What's more, I can't see any reason why Eurosport wouldn't be willing sponsors. Other team sports seem to exist quite well with side-by-side league and cup competitions, why not speedway? Eastbourne won a trophy called the gold cup before they did the playoffs in the NL, only one season so that must be kicking about somewhere. Just need the sponsored part now, simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 9 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: Not really farcical though, that was known at the start of the season. The regular season is simply qualifying for the playoffs. Sure everyone knew, still seems wrong with only six teams, I would have seeded the league winners straight to the final, and next two to semi. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 8:22 PM, NSS1 said: think you need a trip to spec savers He,and you, are entitled to an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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