Fourentee Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Can't get my head round this at all. Makes little sense for Peterborough (Wolves, IMHO, being the team most likely to eliminate the Panthers' biggest problem, Belle Vue) and no sense at all for Wolves. One of the biggest pluses for Wolves this season has been the form of Sam Masters at No.1, but arguably his one awkward track is the Showground. Conversely, who would entertain the possibility of picking a Monmore date against a side featuring track specialists such as Andersen and Harris? PS: Could this now be Belle Vue's year?! Edited September 22, 2021 by Fourentee Edited for postscript. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: More of the opaque decision making and laughable spin that we should I suppose by now be used to..... You don't accept the decision of the planning meeting at face value? 1 minute ago, Fourentee said: Can't get my head round this at all. Makes little sense for Peterborough (Wolves, IMHO, being the team most likely to eliminate the Panthers' biggest problem, Belle Vue) and no sense at all for Wolves. One of the biggest pluses for Wolves this season has been the form of Sam Masters at No.1, but arguably his one awkward track is the Showground. Conversely, who would entertain the possibility of picking a Monmore date against a side featuring track specialists such as Andersen and Harris? PS: Could this now be Belle Vue's year?! and take the home leg in September while Hans is still at reserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Whatever went on in that meeting has now taken away any reward or advantage to the side who has spent the whole season racing to be top , so as to be in a position to choose there path to possibly winning the final and ultimately the title . Its now an open field for sure Edited September 22, 2021 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, Ace no.5 said: My concern is that Sheffield will be riding their home leg 4 days after they last rode at home. BV will be riding their home leg 3 and a half weeks after they last rode at home. Could be a leveller. For Sheffield a lot depends on Batch and who is guesting at reserve. Batch hasn't got the Kent meetings to fall back on now, so will be interesting to see how he does! Would be ironic if BV did win when they are not favourites, considering how many times they didn't win when they were! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, Fourentee said: Can't get my head round this at all. Makes little sense for Peterborough (Wolves, IMHO, being the team most likely to eliminate the Panthers' biggest problem, Belle Vue) and no sense at all for Wolves. One of the biggest pluses for Wolves this season has been the form of Sam Masters at No.1, but arguably his one awkward track is the Showground. Conversely, who would entertain the possibility of picking a Monmore date against a side featuring track specialists such as Andersen and Harris? PS: Could this now be Belle Vue's year?! It is a bit weird that Rory and Sam struggle at Peterborough, Aussies well known for liking it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 I don't see the fuss. After the latest result Peterborough had v Sheffield I always thought Peterborough was picking Wolves with the 2nd leg at home. It makes sense to me anyway. Peterborough should put away Wolves, Belle Vue will hammer Sheffield. Peterborough v Belle Vue, the best final in years for me. The best 2 tracks in the country going head to head, potentially away wins at both tracks, who wouldn't want that as a season finale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, hyderd said: All to do with logistics, Belle Vue Sheffield, closer for fans to travel = larger crowds. Same with Wolves and P/Bora. Very unfair on Wolves or P/Bora, depending on who of the 2 finish top, as the choice has been taken away from them. Still think Wolves have enough in reserve to beat P/Bora over the 2 legs, then finish the campaign as champs by beating the winner of the other semi. Hope I am wrong as on paper Belle Vue look the strongest through my rose tintered glasses. Wolverhampton v Peterborough is most certainly not a larger crowd than Wolves v Aces or Tigers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: You don't accept the decision of the planning meeting at face value? and take the home leg in September while Hans is still at reserve also, with Pedersen probably moving to reserve in October. Strange! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, noaksey said: Wolverhampton v Peterborough is most certainly not a larger crowd than Wolves v Aces or Tigers Wolves at home in any meeting is not a large crowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted September 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Peterborough vs. Belle Vue Final imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Whatever went on in that meeting has now taken away any reward or advantage to the side who has spent the whole season racing to be top , so as to be in a position to choose there path to possibly winning the final and ultimately the title . Its now an open field for sure Why have a meeting if this was, probably, their intentions even before Mondays result was known. This could have been done over the phone, live on air Monday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Nice to know that this "Top secret meeting" went ahead without ANY FANS being involved and didnt have a clue what was going on.Surely at least be up front with people and tell them what you intend to do or maybe do.But maybe this emergency meeting was a result of a promototers pub crawl and this was the end conclusion!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 What a joke. NBA play-off games get organised within a few days. I don't see how British Speedway can't operate in the same manner. This has ruined tomorrow's match against Lynn. Buster will be fuming about the fans who now won't attend a dead rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamBouchard Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Possibly in future years (if there are indeed any future years for speedway) we could simplify the process of the play offs. Rather than waiting until the 'magical cut off date' is reached in September, the 'hastily organised meeting of promoters' should be held immediately the two teams who can't make the play-offs are known (Ipswich/Kings Lynn this season which has been known for weeks). Then simply use mileage between tracks to set up the semi finals rather than faffing about for weeks to see the finishing order. This means the play offs could be in August with better weather, bigger crowds. Scrap any fixtures unridden, saving promoters ££££'s. Could be a winner for everyone. Today's announcement is just another reason why no one outside of the sport shows any interest in it. The one 'sport' that genuinely makes it up as it goes along, year after year after year! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 If both teams who will finish first and second anyway are in agreement I don't suppose it makes much difference. I wonder however what the effect on the crowd Peterborough on Monday will be? Understand also Lambert riding in lieu of Pedersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSS1 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: For Sheffield a lot depends on Batch and who is guesting at reserve. Batch hasn't got the Kent meetings to fall back on now, so will be interesting to see how he does! Would be ironic if BV did win when they are not favourites, considering how many times they didn't win when they were! B/vue were bookies favs at start of the season priced at 9/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Maybe Peterborough have messed up thinking about it. If they beat Wolves they will have a final against a team who has previously won there (at their place). They could finish top and go into the final as underdogs! Edited September 22, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, NSS1 said: B/vue were bookies favs at start of the season priced at 9/4 Okay, fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, lisa-colette said: Maybe Peterborough have messed up thinking about it. If they beat Wolves they will have a final against a team who has previously won there. They could finish top and go into thr final as underdogs! Agree with that and for once you havnt included the word Poole in your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 46 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: I don't see the fuss. After the latest result Peterborough had v Sheffield I always thought Peterborough was picking Wolves with the 2nd leg at home. It makes sense to me anyway. Peterborough should put away Wolves, Belle Vue will hammer Sheffield. Peterborough v Belle Vue, the best final in years for me. The best 2 tracks in the country going head to head, potentially away wins at both tracks, who wouldn't want that as a season finale I wouldn’t say hammer. BV not been that great at Sheffield, can see Sheffield winning first leg by 6-8 points. BV hopefully should overturn that at home but not a hammering. All depends on Batchelor really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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