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Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot 

Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3  league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds 

using  3 guests scoring  22 pts from programmed rides and   then rider replacement rides to win  44 - 45 away at Newcastle  . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from  there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds  side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders  . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits  at lunch break. .???

Unbelievable Jeff   Basically a sport on its  Ars*  it has to change 

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1 hour ago, Tosh1218 said:

Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot 

Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3  league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds 

using  3 guests scoring  22 pts from programmed rides and   then rider replacement rides to win  44 - 45 away at Newcastle  . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from  there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds  side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders  . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits  at lunch break. .???

Unbelievable Jeff   Basically a sport on its  Ars*  it has to change 

Erik Riss (no 5) scored 15 (+1), which kind of helped as well.

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2 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Sadly “Lisa Collette” it is changing... doubt either Newcastle or Birmingham will be staging speedway in 2022 ? 

Sounds a bit more hopeful on the Newcastle thread now. I just meant, if you can get someone interested in speedway then don't go explaining all the rules to them as will put them off. They are better off in blissful ignorance imo!

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2 hours ago, Tosh1218 said:

Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot 

Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3  league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds 

using  3 guests scoring  22 pts from programmed rides and   then rider replacement rides to win  44 - 45 away at Newcastle  . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from  there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds  side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders  . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits  at lunch break. .???

Unbelievable Jeff   Basically a sport on its  Ars*  it has to change 

I'd start trying to explain at your early morning coffee break if I were you... you may need some time ;)

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8 hours ago, Tosh1218 said:

Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot 

Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3  league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds 

using  3 guests scoring  22 pts from programmed rides and   then rider replacement rides to win  44 - 45 away at Newcastle  . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from  there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds  side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders  . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits  at lunch break. .???

Unbelievable Jeff   Basically a sport on its  Ars*  it has to change 

Why not just leave it a 45-44 win away to Newcastle in the league and you had a good day away in another city? That's where speedway fans bore the hell out of their 'friends', by going into minutia like r/r, guests and so on. You think they are interested in that sort of stuff? Only speedway fans are. Tell them what Newcastle is like for a day out, that's a hell of a lot more interesting that your use of guests and r/r.

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10 hours ago, Tosh1218 said:

Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot 

Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3  league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds 

using  3 guests scoring  22 pts from programmed rides and   then rider replacement rides to win  44 - 45 away at Newcastle  . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from  there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds  side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders  . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits  at lunch break. .???

Unbelievable Jeff   Basically a sport on its  Ars*  it has to change 

But what is the alternative to Guests and RR in this situation?

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1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

R/r and promote juniors,it works fine in Poland,at least they are watching their own Team,win or lose.

im all for  giving the juniors chances,but i fear in the situation last night this would create a very one sided meeting rather than the very close ,nail biter at Newcastle last night

 

guest last night surely added to the entertainment of the meeting?

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2 hours ago, montie said:

But what is the alternative to Guests and RR in this situation?

The only alternatives to Guests is for the UK to run squads. If you want to retain people in a squad there has to be some financial reward if they are prohibited from riding elsewhere and have to practise. Seeing as how the UK clubs can only just pay seven riders they have now and in some cases not, I'm not sure squads are affordable? Squads do require signing on fees, which are pretty much gone from UK speedway now.

BTW, the main reason overseas riders ride the UK is because they DONT have squads. You sign up, and barring injury you are much more likely to get all the meetings scheduled than overseas where one poor performance will see you left out for the rest of the year.

 

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21 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Where was Barker last night?

And a big no to 6 man teams from me. Awful thought.

Said his head was not in the right place for racing after the news of Dave Tattum's death earlier in the day.  It's been said that they were good friends.

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1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

A shame he thought of it that way, but fair play. But the news must have been expected, it wasn’t sudden.

He had an illness of which he fought privately.

Tell that to the family & friends of the late Sarah Harding & John Challis & many, many others who had illnesses but when that day comes, it is sad for everyone.

 

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4 hours ago, zlata prilba said:

Possibly but any track that pays rent to landlords are in danger for me with rising costs here n there all mounts up.

Poole may well be taking up a legal challenge against their landlords - Stadia UK who are the current leaseholders of the Council-owned stadium - who are trying to impose a massive rent increase on the Poole promotion without any negotiation!!  Having solicitors as one of the club sponsors and also a partner of Matt Ford in his French business offers good support to the club's position who have always paid their rent on time and coughed up a 3% annual year-on-year increase without issue.

The Council have publicly stated - on video - more than once that they want Poole Speedway to be retained on site at the stadium as they recognise the value to the town and they would 'get involved' if the leaseholders were becoming unreasonable.  Watch this space........ 

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