topaz325 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Glad Lambert is back, after a mixed year it would not be good to miss out on a year or two , he needs continuity to build on in the GP series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 2022 FIM SPEEDWAY GRAND PRIX LINE-UP: 1. Artem Laguta (MFR) 2. Bartosz Zmarzlik (Poland) 3. Emil Sayfutdinov (MFR) 4. Maciej Janowski (Poland) 5. Fredrik Lindgren (Sweden) 6. Tai Woffinden (Great Britain) 7. Leon Madsen (Denmark) 8. Max Fricke (Australia) 9. Jason Doyle (Australia) 10. Robert Lambert (Great Britain) 11. Anders Thomsen (Denmark) 12. Martin Vaculik (Slovakia) 13. Pawel Przedpelski (Poland) 14. Mikkel Michelsen (Denmark) 15. Patryk Dudek (Poland) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Outrageous, how dare the FIM make all the sensible picks just as we predicted leaving us nothing to whinge about. Shocked! PS Kubera, J Holder, Bewley, Chugunov and Miskowiak for my preferred reserve list. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 The only one who has got a pick who I thought may not is Thomsen, but he's a good inconsistent spoiler so I'm glad he's returning. But the next two potential picks being Kubera & Miskowiak both being Polish and 4 Poles already qualified the only other options was possibly Jack Holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Wee Eck said: The only one that might have been considered ahead of one of the five is Kubera, but he lost out because there were already four Poles in the field. You've got to feel for Dominik Kubera. 3 GPs, 3 semis, 2 finals and 2 podiums. At the same rate of scoring over 11 GPs he would have finished with 161 points placing him 3rd ahead of Emil in the overall standings. I know statistics can be misleading but if it had been me, I'd have lost my birth certificate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Speedway World Cup @Torun July 2023. Edited October 5, 2021 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Grand Central said: Worst pack of wildcard choices ever. Which is saying something. Looks like Discovery are starting off with a whimper just like BSI finished with. Next we will hear that Morris is staying on. Agreed. Wildcards to me should be exactly that, not the same old faces. No other sport fills their events only with the 'considered by some' the best in the world from last year. As I said before Radecanu winning the US Open got huge media coverage, as did Joe Johnson in snooker back in the 80s or Boris Becker at Wimbledon, Jerzy S in 73, - anyone remember Eddie the Eagle . Sport should be unpredictable and trying to generate media interest from a story that the favourite won again is unlikely to be welcomed with enthusiasm. Edited October 5, 2021 by SPEEDY69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 3 hours ago, False dawn said: You've got to feel for Dominik Kubera. 3 GPs, 3 semis, 2 finals and 2 podiums. At the same rate of scoring over 11 GPs he would have finished with 161 points placing him 3rd ahead of Emil in the overall standings. I know statistics can be misleading but if it had been me, I'd have lost my birth certificate He's not in the 'top 15' in the eyes of many on here it seems so shouldn't be in there. He's clearly showed he's not good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Unless one is in with a chance of the top 3 finish, why bust a gut striving for 6th. place, when the 6 below you get picked anyway. I agree Kubera should have got a place... does it really matter how many Poles or how few British?. Was anyone else even considered or were the wildcards decided long ago?. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Year in year out NP/KT as well as those in the studio bang on endlessly towards the end of the season about the importance in finishing in the top 6, or 8 as was.. Utter bullsh!t when every year the top 10 are pretty much nailed on. No jeopardy. No reason to do the qualifiers. Edited October 5, 2021 by Grand Central 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BartoszZmarzlikFan Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Thomsen hasn't done anything to deserve a pick and has been chosen based on nationality imo. Even around his home Danish track in Vojens he was abysmal. Feel for Kubera who's missed out due to Przedpelski winning a spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondbend Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 what about Vaculik - he got his 4th nomination within 5 years (same as Harris, Nicholls, Lindgren in the past) - he was injured this year, but probably wouldn't have reached the top 6 anyway but if you cannot get a place in the top 6 (or 8) more than once within 5 years are you stll rated as a world championship challenger?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, secondbend said: what about Vaculik - he got his 4th nomination within 5 years (same as Harris, Nicholls, Lindgren in the past) - he was injured this year, but probably wouldn't have reached the top 6 anyway but if you cannot get a place in the top 6 (or 8) more than once within 5 years are you stll rated as a world championship challenger?? Strange one Lindgren, top 3 or 4 regularly now , but a few years people were moaning he had too many chances. Not my favourite rider but always seem to be in the mix these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, secondbend said: what about Vaculik - he got his 4th nomination within 5 years (same as Harris, Nicholls, Lindgren in the past) - he was injured this year, but probably wouldn't have reached the top 6 anyway but if you cannot get a place in the top 6 (or 8) more than once within 5 years are you stll rated as a world championship challenger?? As I said a few days ago, top 8 safe for next season, rest will have to qualify with one wild card reserved if one of the regular happens to get injured. If a rider doesn't manage top 8 and doesn't manage to qualify or don't bother to enter qualifiers then that one have to sit out a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 hours ago, False dawn said: You've got to feel for Dominik Kubera. 3 GPs, 3 semis, 2 finals and 2 podiums. At the same rate of scoring over 11 GPs he would have finished with 161 points placing him 3rd ahead of Emil in the overall standings. I know statistics can be misleading but if it had been me, I'd have lost my birth certificate Maybe he should just qualify if he's that good .. just a thought 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: Agreed. Wildcards to me should be exactly that, not the same old faces. No other sport fills their events only with the 'considered by some' the best in the world from last year. As I said before Radecanu winning the US Open got huge media coverage, as did Joe Johnson in snooker back in the 80s or Boris Becker at Wimbledon, Jerzy S in 73, - anyone remember Eddie the Eagle . Sport should be unpredictable and trying to generate media interest from a story that the favourite won again is unlikely to be welcomed with enthusiasm. It's a bit easier to find places for qualifiers and wild cards when you are talking about a tournament with 128 players compared to 16. If the US Open only had 16 places available, do you think that Radecanu would have got a place? The best years for introducing new riders to the SGP series were the years when there were 24 riders per event. 16 is just too restrictive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Grand Central said: Year in year out NP/KT as well as those in the studio bang on endlessly towards the end of the season about the importance in finishing in the top 6, or 8 as was.. Utter bullsh!t when every year the top 10 are pretty much nailed on. No jeopardy. No reason to do the qualifiers. To be honest, I have no idea why they reduced it to top 6, as we knew what would happen. If course, it happened because we have limited suitable choices... The one thing that gets me is that people whine about the top however many getting their spots for the following year. What they forget is not only that it IS qualification, but they are having to qualify against the world's best, which is not the case with the GP Challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, HenryW said: It's a bit easier to find places for qualifiers and wild cards when you are talking about a tournament with 128 players compared to 16. If the US Open only had 16 places available, do you think that Radecanu would have got a place? The best years for introducing new riders to the SGP series were the years when there were 24 riders per event. 16 is just too restrictive. Unfortunately, upping it to 24 would mean 8 more also-rans... There just isn't the strength in depth these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Kubera for Thomson or Vaculik would have been my choice.The 3 coming in from the challenge are decent compared to the last couple of seasons though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Maybe if they made the qualifiers different with their 16 nominated riders over say 3 rounds with the Top 3-5 getting in Gp they may get the top men with a better chance of actually qualifying.To many lose out on the day with the present system IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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