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1 hour ago, Roger Jacobs said:

Tungate signed as an Injury Replacement, which means that Riss could return if declared fit.

 

26 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Not the case apparently. 

This is interesting because I asked this question to a current team manager last week and was also told that Riss couldn’t be brought back when fit which surprised me. I thought he could and that’s why he was names as an “injury replacement” rather than simply a replacement. Perhaps Neil Watson could shed some light here as he’s good with that sort of stuff. Think it’s a moot point anyway. Unless Tungate completely tanks you’d be barking to bring him back in for the play offs after a 6 week lay off where he’s bound to have lost some sharpness. Tungate is a better rider anyway, all things being equal. 

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24 minutes ago, Steve Irving said:

 

This is interesting because I asked this question to a current team manager last week and was also told that Riss couldn’t be brought back when fit which surprised me. I thought he could and that’s why he was names as an “injury replacement” rather than simply a replacement. Perhaps Neil Watson could shed some light here as he’s good with that sort of stuff. Think it’s a moot point anyway. Unless Tungate completely tanks you’d be barking to bring him back in for the play offs after a 6 week lay off where he’s bound to have lost some sharpness. Tungate is a better rider anyway, all things being equal. 

As far as I know,  a temporary injury replacement has to be a 1-for-1 change.    You bring in a temporary replacement with a lower average than the injured rider, and when the injured rider is back fit, he can retake his place.

But that's not what Ipswich have done.  They've made a redeclaration of the team, combining the averages of two outgoing riders (plus a bit that they were under the points limit) and redeclared with 2  new riders up to the points limit. 

It's  not a 1-for-1 temporary injury replacement,.  In fact Tungate's average is quite a bit higher than Riss.

 

As for the "IRR"  on the BV website, that's just a cock-up.   "IRR only comes into play if a rider is injured during a meeting and withdraws.   Whoever wrote that on the website hasn't a clue what they're writing.

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2 hours ago, Steve Irving said:

 

This is interesting because I asked this question to a current team manager last week and was also told that Riss couldn’t be brought back when fit which surprised me. I thought he could and that’s why he was names as an “injury replacement” rather than simply a replacement. Perhaps Neil Watson could shed some light here as he’s good with that sort of stuff. Think it’s a moot point anyway. Unless Tungate completely tanks you’d be barking to bring him back in for the play offs after a 6 week lay off where he’s bound to have lost some sharpness. Tungate is a better rider anyway, all things being equal. 

That makes some sense, but not what Ipswich have indicated on their website, press releases.  As you say, it would be handy if they made it clear - especially for Belle Vue (IRR … LOL!).

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On 8/6/2022 at 4:55 PM, Baldyman said:

Well I think that's all my disliked riders in one team now,,,, oh apart from Holder

I with you on that one Baldy, three Aussie I defo can't stand (not Summers)

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15 hours ago, TheSpecialOne said:

Anyone know what Summers record is at Foxhall? Probably not visited since the latest set of track changes.

for Glasgow

2015 - 3, 2', 2, 2, 3, 2' = 14+2

2016 - 2,1,1,1 = 5

2017 - 2, 2, 2, 1, 1' = 8+1

for Berwick

2018 - 1, 3, 2, 3, 3 = 12

for Peterborough

2019

3, 1', 0, 3, 0 = 7+1

2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2 = 8

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48 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

Not sure why Ipswich continue using Batchelor at number 5. King is in better form (in both leagues) & should be able to cope better with heat 13.

Always find it a shame when a stronger rider gets easier rides than a weaker team mate.

Hawkins will have his reasons. He’s made good decisions this season, imo. 

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