Arch Stanton Posted March 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Thanks Taps. Got to say the comments seem extremely harsh on Cam looking at those photos. I was one of his biggest critics a few years ago when he came back in terrible shape, but he looks absolutely fine here.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Surely being in good shape would have been a contract stipulation. You wanna race for us and prove yourself? Then be in the best shape possible. 2019. Trained hard and got fit and put two points on his average 2021 started overweight and dropped two points and gets sacked twice and was very lucky to keep his place at Kent. winter of 2021 told by management where he needs to improve and all are confident press day 8 months since he stopped racing with plenty of time to train and get fit when will the penny drop ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 Oh boy good luck Cam sunshine you’re gonna need it! Gonna be a long old season for you I’m afraid as the knives are out already before a wheel has even been turned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 7:00 AM, Steve Irving said: Oh boy good luck Cam sunshine you’re gonna need it! Gonna be a long old season for you I’m afraid as the knives are out already before a wheel has even been turned. It's only a handful of people on a forum. At Foxhall last season, I stood on the back straight for the home defeat by KL, and was surprised by the number of people who seem to adore Heeps - he was in very poor form, making mistakes and losing places, but they were cheering and saying how 'unlucky' he was. I reckon there are as many Heeps fans as there are for King. The majority of Witches fans are simply happy to have nice blokes riding for their team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Belle Vue sign Jake Allen on short-term contract, while they search for another rider. Although the Witches are under the limit, I have wondered for a while if there was anyone in the 6.50-7.00 bracket available? No-one has come up with an answer ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Roger Jacobs said: It's only a handful of people on a forum. At Foxhall last season, I stood on the back straight for the home defeat by KL, and was surprised by the number of people who seem to adore Heeps - he was in very poor form, making mistakes and losing places, but they were cheering and saying how 'unlucky' he was. I reckon there are as many Heeps fans as there are for King. The majority of Witches fans are simply happy to have nice blokes riding for their team. I think he’s a favourite because of the way he attacks the track at Foxhall (bar last year). He’s never been particularly good away, but at home he’s often been a match winner and entertains with his outside blasts. Covatti was also popular on the terraces, for the same reasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: I think he’s a favourite because of the way he attacks the track at Foxhall (bar last year). He’s never been particularly good away, but at home he’s often been a match winner and entertains with his outside blasts. Covatti was also popular on the terraces, for the same reasons. 95% of fans only ever see home meetings and their view is skewed accordingly Winning home meetings and having riders that can entertain at home are two of the top factors in attracting a decent attendance Cam generally ticks those boxes even when struggling a little elsewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: 95% of fans only ever see home meetings and their view is skewed accordingly Winning home meetings and having riders that can entertain at home are two of the top factors in attracting a decent attendance Cam generally ticks those boxes even when struggling a little elsewhere Absolutely right he does. And I think he would have done again eventually last year if he’d have been kept on, although nobody can really argue with Louis’ decision to drop him and reshuffle the team. He loves the home comforts of Foxhall and when he’s on song, there are few as entertaining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Absolutely right he does. And I think he would have done again eventually last year if he’d have been kept on, although nobody can really argue with Louis’ decision to drop him and reshuffle the team. He loves the home comforts of Foxhall and when he’s on song, there are few as entertaining. Fair dos - and he's certainly not the first rider to be splendidly frustrating and inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Without having any figures to back it up I would hazard a guess than most riders have a differential of 1.5 - 2 points between home and away figure The very best of course are just good everywhere and those are at the top for that reason There are also the true one track specialists where the gap is vast. I seem to recall the likes of Adam Allot averaging nearly 8 at home and barely 2 away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Without having any figures to back it up I would hazard a guess than most riders have a differential of 1.5 - 2 points between home and away figure The very best of course are just good everywhere and those are at the top for that reason There are also the true one track specialists where the gap is vast. I seem to recall the likes of Adam Allot averaging nearly 8 at home and barely 2 away Try 10 at home! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: Fair dos - and he's certainly not the first rider to be splendidly frustrating and inconsistent. He’s definitely that as well! Despite seemingly having the world at his feet at such a young age, think we’ve gone past the stage where we can expect anything more than a good middle order rider. He hasn’t shown that he’s consistent enough or good enough, to be challenging for the number 1 spot in the team and odds are he probably never will. But every team has a Cam in them, and I’d rather have one that entertains like he does. I still think he’s a good sensible signing for us on his average and I still maintain he’ll put a point minimum on his starting figure. Because of his liking of Foxhall, he’s a far better signing for us than he would have been for anyone else put it that way. Edited March 25, 2022 by Arch Stanton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 I think what Cam is is the newer but more entertaing version of morten Risager,, and every team needs one,,, I'm a very harsh critic of his,,, but on those days at Foxhall when he is on form,, he is one of the best to watch. And that's what does my swede in about him the most,,,, he should have more days like those. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 “We look very strong whichever way we set up. As I have always done, I will change the order around and experiment and that won’t change this year unless we find something that we settle on that we think is definitely the best set-up. That is something I think has worked well in the past and is something I believe we can do this year.” Witches boss Ritchie Hawkins won’t be afraid to tinker with his riding order as the Witches look to make a big improvement upon the 2021 season when they failed to make the play-offs. Sorry but I can't see what Hawkins sees, saying Witches "look strong" whichever way they set up! I understand a team manager has to be positive, but think he's seriously over estimated his side's ability! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 The only way they can set up in my opinion is how they were set up last night Riss or Batch at no.2 would leave Heeps at 3 or 4 and that's not the way forward As someone mentioned in another thread if they had retained Cook as an example You could swap Cook and King at 3 & 5 Cook, Riss or Batch could ride at 2 I see alot of fans getting stick for comments made after one meeting buts this is a rollover from last season and the paying punter can have a voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 You can always tell what kind of season cam will have on press day. One chin equals a very good season two or more chins and it’s a poor season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 So far this season I would imagine Heeps has been involved in the most passing moves,,, first to last twice in both heat 1s,, so that's 6 in just 2 heats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Irving Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) Louis needs to correct a mistake quickly before the league programme starts. Forget all the new “rules” with regards changes, they can be easily manipulated just like every other damn rule in British Speedway. If a rider conveniently quits of decides to take “time out”, can they not replace him? Of course they will. They can also make an immediate improvement by using Hume instead of Rowe. Such a waste having him at 8 and not being used. Edited April 15, 2022 by Steve Irving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) Just out of interest,, do we think a bit less effort goes into our team building or rider scouting and things like that because it has a good fan base and probably the best sponsor? So everything is a bit taken for granted Edited April 15, 2022 by Baldyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Just out of interest,, do we think a bit less effort goes into our team building or rider scouting and things like that because it has a good fan base and probably the best sponsor? So everything is a bit taken for granted Sounds about right, and also i think the management team has the opinion that they know they have a good fan base and the regulars/die hards will keep coming regardless of results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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