Racin Jason 72 Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 I see admission has gone up to £20 this year. Is this good value for 15 heats of racing ? However if this includes a junior league meeting of six heats then I think it is a reasonable price but what concerns me is that the premiership was supposed to have a junior league last year but it never happened. Here we are with p&p this week and absolutely no idea if this league is going ahead and who will represent Ipswich!!! rumour had it that your premiership 7&8 would head the team which would be excellent and worthy of staying to watch rather than wobblers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: I see admission has gone up to £20 this year. Is this good value for 15 heats of racing ? However if this includes a junior league meeting of six heats then I think it is a reasonable price but what concerns me is that the premiership was supposed to have a junior league last year but it never happened. Here we are with p&p this week and absolutely no idea if this league is going ahead and who will represent Ipswich!!! rumour had it that your premiership 7&8 would head the team which would be excellent and worthy of staying to watch rather than wobblers. Just from reading between the line in various other threads it is more likely to be akin the the few mdl meetings we saw all those years ago Gradings using up to 8 points with No8 if used taking 4 of those It won't be every meeting with only around 6 likely in total 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 Wait till next year when it's 21,22 quid,, I think this year at 20 it's a whole note,, but a whole note and change on top,,, that's when people will really start questioning it.. There will a price point where people say,, that's it,, but I don't think 20 is it,,, 21 22 maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 35 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: I see admission has gone up to £20 this year. Is this good value for 15 heats of racing ? However if this includes a junior league meeting of six heats then I think it is a reasonable price but what concerns me is that the premiership was supposed to have a junior league last year but it never happened. Here we are with p&p this week and absolutely no idea if this league is going ahead and who will represent Ipswich!!! rumour had it that your premiership 7&8 would head the team which would be excellent and worthy of staying to watch rather than wobblers. Unfortunately looks like the Premiership junior league is just lip service as before and unlikely to happen again this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Baldyman said: Wait till next year when it's 21,22 quid,, I think this year at 20 it's a whole note,, but a whole note and change on top,,, that's when people will really start questioning it.. There will a price point where people say,, that's it,, but I don't think 20 is it,,, 21 22 maybe It's a very brave move putting the admission up to £20.00 at the same time as a massive rise in household bills In my eyes £20 takes it above a price point that offers anything like value for money. I suppose we'll see though. Also another year with no bank holiday fixtures. Not having these must be a financial hit as they regularly brought the best gates of the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 1st meeting of the season has to be something special to get fans to return the 2 weeks after.... And I'll put myself in that bracket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: 1st meeting of the season has to be something special to get fans to return the 2 weeks after.... And I'll put myself in that bracket Problem with that is,,, the first meeting is nearly always a total bore fest on a very slick track,,, maybe though the weather may be warm enough this year to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Just from reading between the line in various other threads it is more likely to be akin the the few mdl meetings we saw all those years ago Gradings using up to 8 points with No8 if used taking 4 of those It won't be every meeting with only around 6 likely in total IF it happens....it would only be 3 PJL home meetings and potentially an extra PJL play off later in the season. Im sure there have been a few approaches to riders but im yet to be convinced that the teams are finalised yet or even close to it. Edit even got that wrong 2 groups of 3 would be 2 home 2 away and potential play off. Im sure the riders are queueing up for 4 extra midweek matches Edited March 21, 2022 by Sings4Speedway missed a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 £20 is terrible value for money!!! Added in utilities and fuel going up as well its got death knell all over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 I’d rather praise the Ipswich promotion for being the only club at least trying to encourage the future support of the club/sport by still allowing the youngsters in for FREE. Everyone else is charging, ranging from a Fiver to 8 quid! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: I’d rather praise the Ipswich promotion for being the only club at least trying to encourage the future support of the club/sport by still allowing the youngsters in for FREE. Everyone else is charging, ranging from a Fiver to 8 quid! What's the use of that when parents can't afford to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Panthers99 said: What's the use of that when parents can't afford to go. I don't think going up 2 quid per adult is awful considering it hasn't gone up for a couple of years. All costs will have gone up and it will cost more to run a meeting plus with the amount of miles riders do, fuel costs are going to affect them a lot too so will need to be paid more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 I said last season I'd rather pay with a note then handle some change back from one, it ends up clogging up the washing machine or lost down the sofa As Arch Stanton mentioned, for me £20 is ok with the kids FREE as I usually only have my daughter wanting to go, so for me it's fine, might start bringing my own food tho... Saying that, I'll only likely be at 3 or 4 meetings at best this year, mainly with specific riders are in town Speedway is a low priority for me but I know it's a high priority for others and the witches have a large following like this so it will be interesting to see if they maintain as much support depending on entrance fee, cost of living, performance on track etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: I’d rather praise the Ipswich promotion for being the only club at least trying to encourage the future support of the club/sport by still allowing the youngsters in for FREE. Everyone else is charging, ranging from a Fiver to 8 quid! Doesn't really make any difference if its £19 or £20 if kids are £7 or £8. All of a sudden its nearing £30 for the adult taking them . It's not as though it would be the kids paying you themselves is it? From not missing any meetings at home since I started to go in the 80s as a kid its now getting to a stage I miss more than I goto . It's all about value for money.. £20 for British speedway can be poor value where by £100 for a GP trip in Poland can be good value. Edited March 21, 2022 by 2ndbendbeerhut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Panthers99 said: What's the use of that when parents can't afford to go. So short sighted and terrible attitude. Costs me 20 quid for me and my daughter to go to Foxhall, will cost me £29 at Peterborough! That’s a huge difference. My daughter wasn’t initially keen to go at the beginning, and I certainly wouldn’t have paid to take her knowing she wasn’t overly fussed about going, but because she was free to get in I dragged her along for company to see what she thought. She now won’t miss a meeting, and it’s actually me that can’t be bothered some nights but I end up going for her. Club merchandise, teenage crush on Heeps, the works! You never can tell, but every chance in a few years once she turns 17, she’ll return as a paying customer. How many others are just like her? Saw more youngsters at Foxhall last year than probably all the away tracks I visited combined. Is there any wonder? Again, well done to the Ipswich promotion for some forward thinking, pity the others aren’t of the same mindset 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 Kids should always be free,,, at every track. I don't have kids, so makes no difference to me,,, but I totally agree, good on ipswich for free kids. They should be free everywhere. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Baldyman said: Kids should always be free,,, at every track. I don't have kids, so makes no difference to me,,, but I totally agree, good on ipswich for free kids. They should be free everywhere. If parents can’t afford to take the kids, and let’s be honest, not many can in these difficult times, where are the future hardcore fans coming from? Dont charge them, let them get in and get hooked by the sport like most of us were back in the day, and think a bit further down the line rather than the short sighted here and now approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Doesn't really make any difference if its £19 or £20 if kids are £7 or £8. All of a sudden its nearing £30 for the adult taking them . It's not as though it would be the kids paying you themselves is it? From not missing any meetings at home since I started to go in the 80s as a kid its now getting to a stage I miss more than I goto . It's all about value for money.. £20 for British speedway can be poor value where by £100 for a GP trip in Poland can be good value. I went down a very similar route as your describing, i moved to Stock Cars from Speedway for more action to ££s spent, But now as my wifes carer its just whats on TV or updates nothing else for Speedway and Stock Cars. You dont stop supporting your team but it gets to the stage you dont miss attending . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: So short sighted and terrible attitude. Costs me 20 quid for me and my daughter to go to Foxhall, will cost me £29 at Peterborough! That’s a huge difference. My daughter wasn’t initially keen to go at the beginning, and I certainly wouldn’t have paid to take her knowing she wasn’t overly fussed about going, but because she was free to get in I dragged her along for company to see what she thought. She now won’t miss a meeting, and it’s actually me that can’t be bothered some nights but I end up going for her. Club merchandise, teenage crush on Heeps, the works! You never can tell, but every chance in a few years once she turns 17, she’ll return as a paying customer. How many others are just like her? Saw more youngsters at Foxhall last year than probably all the away tracks I visited combined. Is there any wonder? Again, well done to the Ipswich promotion for some forward thinking, pity the others aren’t of the same mindset Similar story to me and my lad.. (No crush on Heeps though). (I think)... He unfortunately doesnt see the value in paying to watch league racing now he is 18 and has to fork out for himself... He cannot reconcile how riders can end up riding for everyone else, so he doesnt treat it as a serious sport, hence, no way will he pay twenty quid to get in.. We stopped being "regulars" when the Aces charged for 12 and upwards, after many years of being free when he was under 12, (so they lost my money and gained nothing), and instead we did FIM meetings and "decent" individuals, ie Proper Speedway meetings, with the odd attendance to the Aces when certain riders were in town.... He has though paid for me and him to attend tonight and the British GP, (over £80 on me!!!), as a thankyou for the thousands of miles I have covered taking him the length and breadth of the country so he can play football.. I was "shocked" to say the least.. Although it will be me paying the hotel bill.... Hopefully your daughter stays with it and can see the value when it his her turn to have to pay to get in, as the sport needs that "missing generation" so badly... Edit: FWIW. I actually think that for a good many that £7/£8 could actually be the "deal breaker" given the cost of living will rise/is rising so much.. And, just like with me, you lose the adults money too... Edited March 21, 2022 by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: If parents can’t afford to take the kids, and let’s be honest, not many can in these difficult times, where are the future hardcore fans coming from? Dont charge them, let them get in and get hooked by the sport like most of us were back in the day, and think a bit further down the line rather than the short sighted here and now approach. I’d go further and give kids season tickets to every school in Ipswich and surrounding areas. With maybe after every 5 meetings the parents get half price admission. it’s called promotion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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