OveFundinFan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, mikebv said: Diesel at £1.80 a ltr... Council Tax up by 4%... Gas and Electric between 50 to 100% increase on the year from April... Inflation up 6%... And NI Contribution up by 1.5% from this month.. A good time then to put an increase on your admission....? Presume there must be a new leading link fork on the market that will make every rider who buys one a world champion...? What you have to remember Mike, is that the rises you mention affect everyone. That includes the business of running the stadium, and the riders. They, like you and I, will be paying the increases. So why should admission charges be held back? No price increase, track closes, cant pay the bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: What you have to remember Mike, is that the rises you mention affect everyone. That includes the business of running the stadium, and the riders. They, like you and I, will be paying the increases. So why should admission charges be held back? No price increase, track closes, cant pay the bills. Granted.. But to expect your already under financial strain customers to part with more money is a huge risk... Especially in a summer that will see millions fly out to the sunshine on holidays, doing something that they havent done for around two years, meaning many of your punters will have an added financial stretch, as well as not being around for a few meetings to come and pay you money... Speedway will be very, very low down the priority listing I would think for many... Still, hope springs eternal, and maybe Speedway's demographic of "middle aged +" will help it weather the following financial rubbish storm ahead.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, mikebv said: Granted.. But to expect your already under financial strain customers to part with more money is a huge risk... Especially in a summer that will see millions fly out to the sunshine on holidays, doing something that they havent done for around two years, meaning many of your punters will have an added financial stretch, as well as not being around for a few meetings to come and pay you money... Speedway will be very, very low down the priority listing I would think for many... Still, hope springs eternal, and maybe Speedway's demographic of "middle aged +" will help it weather the following financial rubbish storm ahead.. I am sure any one contemplating a foreign summer holiday are not going to cancel plans even if their local speedway reduces prices by £5. What speedway needs to do is stream, stream, stream. If someone feels they cannot afford getting to a stadium, plus pie and drink (though not really a necessity), as well entrance fee, but can afford £10-£12 for a stream. It’s got to be a way forward for speedway but how many tracks will do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Granted.. But to expect your already under financial strain customers to part with more money is a huge risk... Especially in a summer that will see millions fly out to the sunshine on holidays, doing something that they havent done for around two years, meaning many of your punters will have an added financial stretch, as well as not being around for a few meetings to come and pay you money... Speedway will be very, very low down the priority listing I would think for many... Still, hope springs eternal, and maybe Speedway's demographic of "middle aged +" will help it weather the following financial rubbish storm ahead.. The issue really is value for money. Sadly at £20 it isn't any longer value for money. Something I never thought I'd say but pound for pound a match at Portman road offers far better VFM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: I am sure any one contemplating a foreign summer holiday are not going to cancel plans even if their local speedway reduces prices by £5. What speedway needs to do is stream, stream, stream. If someone feels they cannot afford getting to a stadium, plus pie and drink (though not really a necessity), as well entrance fee, but can afford £10-£12 for a stream. It’s got to be a way forward for speedway but how many tracks will do it. My comment 'OFF' re holidays was more to do with the fact that a rather large chunk of disposable income will be swallowed up this year, unlike the last two, meaning Speedway may suffer off the back of it.... Maybe knocking a fiver off would be the answer and hope you bring a lot more people in? As the entertainment sector will be under pressure more than ever this year I would think.. Pipe dream I know... When the utility bill rises hit, and if the fuel costs stay high, allied to the cost of living increases, and NI increases, I can really see major problems for the "entertainment sector" sadly... My income alone will be hit by 4% Council Tax hike taking it to over £2k a year, an £1100 a year gas/electricity increase, a 1.5% increase in NI meaning a £1000 loss of net income, an estimated 6% increase in food costs, and four weeks ago I filled the car up and it cost me £70, this week it cost me £95... Even my bloody internet is going up. Which fuel do BT use? I would suggest Speedway needs to ensure they give a damn good value for money night out if they still want finance pressured patrons to attend... Streaming "could help" but if all it does is have someone paying £12 to watch a stream, who would have paid £20 to attend, then it wont help at all.. It will be interesting to see who can be the most innovative in maintaining crowd levels this year, and who may even increase them when faced by great challenges... Edited March 11, 2022 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, mikebv said: Streaming "could help" but if all it does is have someone paying £12 to watch a stream, who would have paid £20 to attend, then it wont help at all.. Streaming would pick up people who do not normally go to the meeting live. Take my example, I live 35 miles from Belle Vue, so 70 mile return. Even in my Prius, which can easily do 70 mpg in summer, that is nearly £8, plus £20 to get in, there is £2. Since NSS has opened I have been just 3 times, non of them was a Premier league match. So, £10-£12 streaming would be attractive to me……… AND TO MANY OTHERS no doubt. Attendance in person may dro, not a lot I don’t think, but many more would be streaming. I too am with BT,now speedway gp has moved to discovery by is good for MotoGP/2/3. Must admit though, bt is very reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 What we thinking riding order wise? Cam at 2 riding with Doyle? Riss and Batch in the engine room and King at 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipswichwitches Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: What we thinking riding order wise? Cam at 2 riding with Doyle? Riss and Batch in the engine room and King at 5? That's the order I would go with. Heeps will be partnered with Doyle in 3 heats and in the protected heat 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) I personally wouldnt put Heeps anywhere 2,,i think we would get much better from him at 4. Because of that , I fully expect him to be at 2,,,and then reserve,, where he will score plenty,,, which may the the TMs cunning plan all along. Edited March 12, 2022 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ipswichwitches said: That's the order I would go with. Heeps will be partnered with Doyle in 3 heats and in the protected heat 8 If its the same Batch who was at Sheffield last season, you need him at 2, his rides can be over by heat 8 then, latest heat 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipswichwitches Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, The Third Man said: If its the same Batch who was at Sheffield last season, you need him at 2, his rides can be over by heat 8 then, latest heat 10 For me, the problem with the number 4 position is heat 14. It can often see a tactical in that heat, so your no. 4 could be up against the opposition 1 and 4 so you need someone to try to cover any ts used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 If it’s the same track as last year ,we are in trouble unless club sponsers clutches for top 4 riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 At home Doyle, Heeps, Riss, Batchelor, King, Rowe, Starke. Away from Home Doyle, Batchelor, Riss, Heeps, King, Starke, Rowe But as its Richard Doyle, King, Batchelor, Riss, Heeps, Starke, Rowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 12:25 PM, Arch Stanton said: What we thinking riding order wise? Cam at 2 riding with Doyle? Riss and Batch in the engine room and King at 5? 1) Jason Doyle 2) Cameron Heeps 3) Troy Batchelor 4) Erik Riss 5) Danny King 6) Paul Starke 7) Anders Rowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, ipswichwitches said: For me, the problem with the number 4 position is heat 14. It can often see a tactical in that heat, so your no. 4 could be up against the opposition 1 and 4 so you need someone to try to cover any ts used Don't worry, Ipswich won't get 6 points up too often lol! Edited March 13, 2022 by szkocjasid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 22 hours ago, The Third Man said: If its the same Batch who was at Sheffield last season, you need him at 2, his rides can be over by heat 8 then, latest heat 10 Despite Batchelor having a poor season at Sheffield, he's still stronger than Riss & Heeps though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Despite Batchelor having a poor season at Sheffield, he's still stronger than Riss & Heeps though! He wasn't just poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 The Rising Star has got to be at no7 & can not be replaced by the other reserve in heat 8(protected). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 hours ago, IronScorpion said: The Rising Star has got to be at no7 & can not be replaced by the other reserve in heat 8(protected). Not even the Number 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Not even the Number 8? Rising Star and no 8 basically are sharing the position. TM declares who is in team 3 days before meeting. 012.2 TEAM COMPOSITION A Premiership team’s initial declaration must not exceed 39.00 points for the top 6 riders. Rising Star riders will be declared at number 7 and number 8. The declared Rising Stars in positions 7 & 8 are permitted to alternate, at the Team Managers discretion, meeting by meeting, provided the opposing team are given a minimum of three days notice. Edited March 17, 2022 by 2ndbendbeerhut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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