Badge Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Chris Louis talking to Mike bacon https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/sport/louis-on-the-witches-8323122?s=09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 How long have panthers not had a number 1 for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Flappy said: How long have panthers not had a number 1 for? One could argue - all season. But they seem to have done very well with six third heat-leaders and a rising star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 So maybe just maybe team building was wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Pretty poor RACE track didn’t help ippo .. home riders lose confidence … away riders just take it as they find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Flappy said: So maybe just maybe team building was wrong? To be fair, the team building included Klindt (an Ipswich track specialist) at 1 until he dropped out on the eve of the season. We lost numerous meetings by only a handful of points, especially at home, when Crump or a guest scored only a few points. That makes all the difference in the world. Of course we’ll never fully know 100%, but if we’d had Klindt at 1 as originally planned, we’d almost certainly have far more points on the board than we currently have. I also accept the point about Panthers doing brilliantly without a recognised number 1. But it’s pretty much a rare occurrence that this happens. Look at all the league winners over the years, and 99% of them have had good solid number 1’s. Edited September 15, 2021 by Arch Stanton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Wasn't it Ipswich who were trying to sign Chris Holder but couldn't get his visa done quickly enough?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Wasn't it Ipswich who were trying to sign Chris Holder but couldn't get his visa done quickly enough?! Yes, but that was last year, not this. Edit: It was actually the 2019 season, not the season that never was last year. Edited September 15, 2021 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Wasn't it Ipswich who were trying to sign Chris Holder but couldn't get his visa done quickly enough?! Things could've been worse then...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Things could've been worse then...... Always next year...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: To be fair, the team building included Klindt (an Ipswich track specialist) at 1 until he dropped out on the eve of the season. We lost numerous meetings by only a handful of points, especially at home, when Crump or a guest scored only a few points. That makes all the difference in the world. Of course we’ll never fully know 100%, but if we’d had Klindt at 1 as originally planned, we’d almost certainly have far more points on the board than we currently have. I also accept the point about Panthers doing brilliantly without a recognised number 1. But it’s pretty much a rare occurrence that this happens. Look at all the league winners over the years, and 99% of them have had good solid number 1’s. Klindt wasn't number 1,Crump was,, as average was higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Klindt wasn't number 1,Crump was,, as average was higher And if King is signed Klindt wont be no.1 if signed for 2022 haha unless king gets a reduction My only gripe on the Louis interview is he doesnt know the team building rules, pretty sure most promotions know roughly what's going on but then they wont let fans know til last If Klindt is in hope Mads Hansen King probably a shoe in Maybe an Ellis/Allen combo could fit depending on the regs, or Crump with Covatti? 1. Ellis 2. Allen 3. Klindt 4. Hansen 5. King Or 1. King 2. Covatti 3. Crump 4. Hansen 5. Klindt Probably end up with 1. Doyle 2. Heeps 3. Crump 4. Allen 5. King Obviously pure speculations coz we dont know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Baldyman said: Klindt wasn't number 1,Crump was,, as average was higher For some reason I had it in my mind that Klindt was replaced late on by Crump but he was replaced by Jake Allen so that emphasises my point even more! Klindt was the number 1 in that team in terms of stature and point scoring potential regardless what number he’d have started with. Klindt is like sh!t off a shovel at Foxhall that’s why a lot of us wanted him in the side. Those narrow home defeats would have been home victories with him in the side no doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: And if King is signed Klindt wont be no.1 if signed for 2022 haha unless king gets a reduction My only gripe on the Louis interview is he doesnt know the team building rules, pretty sure most promotions know roughly what's going on but then they wont let fans know til last If Klindt is in hope Mads Hansen King probably a shoe in Maybe an Ellis/Allen combo could fit depending on the regs, or Crump with Covatti? 1. Ellis 2. Allen 3. Klindt 4. Hansen 5. King Or 1. King 2. Covatti 3. Crump 4. Hansen 5. Klindt Probably end up with 1. Doyle 2. Heeps 3. Crump 4. Allen 5. King Obviously pure speculations coz we dont know Doyle an interesting shout. Always been loyal to British Speedway in the past, wonder if he could be tempted back to UK? More complicated these days though with Polish restrictions and travelling complications amongst other things so probably doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Doyle an interesting shout. Always been loyal to British Speedway in the past, wonder if he could be tempted back to UK? More complicated these days though with Polish restrictions and travelling complications amongst other things so probably doubtful. Well he only took on Sweden due to Swindon closing, so he was willing to give up Sweden for the UK, whether that is the case now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Well he only took on Sweden due to Swindon closing, so he was willing to give up Sweden for the UK, whether that is the case now.... Correction, he was willing to give up Sweden for Swindon. Pretty sure at the time he said he would only ride for them, no one else in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Well some of the riders need to come back next year,, with hopefully at least one more team moving up,, and Rory Bjarne and poss Jason retiring there may be a shortage of suitable riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Baldyman said: Well some of the riders need to come back next year,, with hopefully at least one more team moving up,, and Rory Bjarne and poss Jason retiring there may be a shortage of suitable riders. Well they might but can clubs afford them now. UK speedway in a perilous place now and would throwing £000’s at Doyle put numbers on the gate to pay for him. With riders retiring I would expect a consolidation of the leagues otherwise it’s a farce. Edited September 16, 2021 by GWC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, GWC said: Well they might but can clubs afford them now. UK speedway in a perilous place now and would throwing £000’s at Doyle put numbers on the gate to pay for him. With riders retiring I would expect a consolidation of the leagues otherwise it’s a farce. So with riders retiring and going to one league, presumably still restrictions from Poland, where are the riders going to come from? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, GWC said: Well they might but can clubs afford them now. UK speedway in a perilous place now and would throwing £000’s at Doyle put numbers on the gate to pay for him. With riders retiring I would expect a consolidation of the leagues otherwise it’s a farce. There are also plenty of not so good foreign that may need to come back,, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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