Ipswich 2022

[Arch Stanton]

Just incase anyone is bothered at the moment 

King and 6 others. 

[Panthers99]

King, Heeps, Nicholls, Klindt, Cook, Rowe, Kemp

I have no doubt there won't be many changes as Hawkins/Louis have a type.

[Falcon1983]

1. King

2. Covatti/Starke/Heeps/Allen

3. Klindt

4. Hansen

5. Ellis

6. Rowe R/S

7. Kemp R/S

[Racin Jason 72]

I can’t see the current 6 team league continuing in its present form and who knows what crazy plans they will or probably won’t do next year. So pointless speculating til we know the format. 
Id definitely keep Danny but not fussed about the rest really. 

[cowboy cookie returns?]

Louis & Hawkins should have a word with Paul Cook on how to conduct a clear out.

On a serious note Rowe & Kemp would be in my team for no other reason than the talent both these have.

 

Edited September 11, 2021 by cowboy cookie returns?

[Arch Stanton]

1 hour ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Louis & Hawkins should have a word with Paul Cook on how to conduct a clear out.

 

 

Yeah, working wonders that..

[Falcon1983]

5 hours ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

I can’t see the current 6 team league continuing in its present form and who knows what crazy plans they will or probably won’t do next year. So pointless speculating til we know the format. 
Id definitely keep Danny but not fussed about the rest really. 

Well you have Plymouth and Lynn who have already announced Lawson so one would assume that the PL and CL will go ahead in some way, will the NL survive? If not the CL will be weaker so are Plymouth wasting alot of points on Lawson

The promoters know what's going on, not sure why we have to wait til November/December to be told, should just be one plan drawn up and kept to for 5 years

Oxford look like they'll be in the CL 

I think the PL is looking like a 6 team league again, why would anyone else move up 

[Lefty]

Could King's Lynn and Plymouth swap divisions? 

[Falcon1983]

6 hours ago, Lefty said:

Could King's Lynn and Plymouth swap divisions? 

Possibly but cant really see two clubs coming up to make 8, plymouth were rumoured to be wanting to move up tho

 

[LisaColette]

2 hours ago, Falcon1983 said:

Possibly but cant really see two clubs coming up to make 8, plymouth were rumoured to be wanting to move up tho

 

Then who gets Richard Lawson if just Plymouth move up and KL stay?

I'm sure I read somewhere before all the lockdowns started that they weren't allowing anymore teams from the prem to move into the champ. Even with teams swapping I'm not sure they would allow it as definitely need more than 6 teams in a league!

Edited September 12, 2021 by lisa-colette

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

38 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Then who gets Richard Lawson if just Plymouth move up and KL stay?

I'm sure I read somewhere before all the lockdowns started that they weren't allowing anymore teams from the prem to move into the champ. Even with teams swapping I'm not sure they would allow it as definitely need more than 6 teams in a league!

So if Lynn want to drop they won't allow it?

Lynn then stick up two fingers and close

Fantastic stewardship of the sport again....

[LisaColette]

3 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

So if Lynn want to drop they won't allow it?

Lynn then stick up two fingers and close

Fantastic stewardship of the sport again....

Or Lynn could get what they want in regards to rule changes if it keeps them in the prem! If any teams want to move down and no one willing to move up then they will seriously have to consider one league. I guess if Swindon run next year and put it up to 7 and then one more team move up like Plymouth or Kent then 8, which looks a bit healthier.

[Bagpuss]

Why would Lynn move 'down' and give up their local derbies? Not gonna happen.

Hopefully at least two will move 'up' to even the leagues up a bit, I cant imagine it's the massive financial difference it used to be. If its Plymouth then Lawson has a choice to make I guess although you would imagine he knows what's going on to have signed for both sides.

[cowboy cookie returns?]

41 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Why would Lynn move 'down' and give up their local derbies? Not gonna happen.

Hopefully at least two will move 'up' to even the leagues up a bit, I cant imagine it's the massive financial difference it used to be. If its Plymouth then Lawson has a choice to make I guess although you would imagine he knows what's going on to have signed for both sides.

Maybe in the interest of speedway they are going to allow doubling up in the same league.

[LisaColette]

58 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Why would Lynn move 'down' and give up their local derbies? Not gonna happen.

Hopefully at least two will move 'up' to even the leagues up a bit, I cant imagine it's the massive financial difference it used to be. If its Plymouth then Lawson has a choice to make I guess although you would imagine he knows what's going on to have signed for both sides.

Poole moved down because they would save quite a bit of money though so there must be quite a difference financially. 

[Bagpuss]

With only three Prem riders not in the Champ I can't really get my head round how it can be much more costly to ride in unless better riders are going to flock back next year. If it was much cheaper then admission prices would surely be much different between the leagues?

1 hour ago, lisa-colette said:

Poole moved down because they would save quite a bit of money though so there must be quite a difference financially. 

 

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

With only three Prem riders not in the Champ I can't really get my head round how it can be much more costly to ride in unless better riders are going to flock back next year. If it was much cheaper then admission prices would surely be much different between the leagues?

 

@Skidder1 can correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember a 30% decrease being banded around. It was the main reason Poole moved down along with the Weds night race nights. Although I guess it depends on what sort of pay riders like Stevie Worrall and Danny King are on too.

[Bagpuss]

25 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

@Skidder1 can correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember a 30% decrease being banded around. It was the main reason Poole moved down along with the Weds night race nights. Although I guess it depends on what sort of pay riders like Stevie Worrall and Danny King are on too.

I wouldn't mind betting the top riders on the Champ are on similar money in both leagues. The race night thing is big for clubs who have always ridden on a particular evening I guess but with so much doubling up its essential that rave nights are kept separate. 

It's also worth bearing in mind that several riders who were supposed to have raced here in 2020 didn't in 2021 ie Pedersen, Iversen, Klindt, Bjerre and their absence will have pushed costs down a bit.

[Baldyman]

As for Ipswich,, I want to see some new riders, or at least one,,, for eg, Mads Hansen or Francis Gusts,,, someone new and young that already performs to a decent level. I don't want to see the already tried and failed riders we will probably end up with yet again. 

[SteveLyric2]

21 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

@Skidder1 can correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember a 30% decrease being banded around. It was the main reason Poole moved down along with the Weds night race nights. Although I guess it depends on what sort of pay riders like Stevie Worrall and Danny King are on too.

Obviously each club has a different cost base compared to other clubs, depending on all sorts of factors. Its not just about rider wages! The difference that I was told about (bearing in mind this is just one specific club) was that costs were one third less to race in the Championship than in the Premiership - both are 5-figure sums per week/meeting!

From my own knowledge, if a rider is riding in both leagues then the pay rates are very different!  Presumably because riders will strive to get what makes it pay for them in total - including the assurance of getting paid EVERY week! - so once they have a Premiership contract 'buttoned up' they will happily accept a reduced rate of pay in the Championship.

Of course there may also be other rider bonus incentives in both leagues, eg reaching the play-offs/winning the league/Cup etc which will tend to benefit the more successful clubs due to increased attendance income, as well as the riders - both of whom may benefit from additional sponsorship funding?!

Edited September 13, 2021 by Skidder1