IainB Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, M.D said: The BSPL You are joking aren't you? Please tell me you are joking! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, M.D said: Well my contacts are telling me this.. It will be one league next season with a fluid rider system for all tracks, an example below Eastbourne will return so Tom Brennan will revert to Eastbourne on his CMA This is not fair on Glasgow so Tom can take his place in their line up too Tom can also ride for Belle Vue as a rising star as they had first dibs When Glasgow face Belle Vue, then Glasgow must use a guest for Tom up to his CMA as he is a rising star and that takes priority for Belle Vue When Glasgow face Eastbourne, then the home team has the use of Tom with R/R used by the away team in the interest of the sport And so forth.. Very simple and well thought out. I was told that this was a secret document... They wont be happy you have launched their plan... At least you didnt mention the new rule for next season that states at each meeting the first two riders to turn up will be the captains, and that the first 12 riders to turn up after them will be given out numbers by the ref, (1 to 12), whilst the captains of the two teams look away... A coin will then be tossed between the two captains to see who can call out the first number... Whatever number they shout, the rider given that number by the ref then goes and stands behind them.. After all twelve are selected the 14 riders take to the track.. There has though been an addendum to the rule this week... It has been decreed that after all the numbers have been given out, each rider swaps places, so the captains wont be able to work out, just by going left to right, what number each rider is, and therefore pick all the best riders first.. Making the rubbish ones feel upset and sad...   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, mikebv said: I was told that this was a secret document... They wont be happy you have launched their plan... At least you didnt mention the new rule for next season that states at each meeting the first two riders to turn up will be the captains, and that the first 12 riders to turn up after them will be given out numbers by the ref, (1 to 12), whilst the captains of the two teams look away... A coin will then be tossed between the two captains to see who can call out the first number... Whatever number they shout, the rider given that number by the ref then goes and stands behind them.. After all twelve are selected the 14 riders take to the track.. There has though been an addendum to the rule this week... It has been decreed that after all the numbers have been given out, each rider swaps places, so the captains wont be able to work out, just by going left to right, what number each rider is, and therefore pick all the best riders first.. Making the rubbish ones feel upset and sad...   Almost, but its a little more complex than we both have said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerback Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 people people people all sensible rules but your all missing the most important decision to be made this year  so will the green helmet colour return lets face it its the only thing broken in uk speedway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Nothing sums up the current state speedway finds itself in is the situation at Edinburgh tonight. Birmingham rider Jack Thomas, who has chased gust bookings and meeting all of the past week, and credit to him for doing that. But he misses his clubs meeting tonight for, and this is his own words, he needs a night off and Birmingham are allowed a guest. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, screm said: Nothing sums up the current state speedway finds itself in is the situation at Edinburgh tonight. Birmingham rider Jack Thomas, who has chased gust bookings and meeting all of the past week, and credit to him for doing that. But he misses his clubs meeting tonight for, and this is his own words, he needs a night off and Birmingham are allowed a guest. I might try that. I'll work all weekend and then phone my employer up on Monday sick because I'm too knackered to go in. On a serious note are the promotors ever going to wake up to the shambles that is UK speedway. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: I might try that. I'll work all weekend and then phone my employer up on Monday sick because I'm too knackered to go in. On a serious note are the promotors ever going to wake up to the shambles that is UK speedway. Â No would be the answer to your Question.Last man standing win soon be the Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 13 hours ago, cityrebel said: With Richard Lawson signing for Plymouth and King's Lynn next season, it looks like more of the same for next year. If something is broke, why try and repair it! Think Lawson is going to also sign for Mildenhall.(just in case). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, screm said: Nothing sums up the current state speedway finds itself in is the situation at Edinburgh tonight. Birmingham rider Jack Thomas, who has chased gust bookings and meeting all of the past week, and credit to him for doing that. But he misses his clubs meeting tonight for, and this is his own words, he needs a night off and Birmingham are allowed a guest. Never underestimate the power of a dose of Hawkinsitis..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 14 hours ago, blueherb777 said: Yes....looks like same old...same old...I despair!!! What were the you expecting, no league racing, free for all, challenges every week? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Trees said: What were the you expecting, no league racing, free for all, challenges every week? Isnt that what we do have? So, as the thread title suggests... No change next year then.... Â 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Just a thought to help the sport move forward, add a touch of supporter interaction & add some much needed suspense. Each club runs a competition on their website for two supporters to experience an interactive evening. The winning supporters have to arrive at the stadium 2 hours before the meeting. They are then escorted to the new VIP caravan that each track must have. Inside there are 14 riders all dressed in black leathers with BSPL approved paper bags over their heads. The 2 winning supporters then toss a coin to decide who is the representing the 'home' team & who represents the 'away' team. After this another coin is tossed to decide who has first pick of the riders.. They then take it in turns to pick a rider until each team has 7 riders. At this point the riders are asked to remove the paper bags to reveal to the excided winners who they are. At this point all those who know the true identity of the riders have to sign the official because this is speedway document that states they can never reveal the rider identities. After the big reveal the away team can demand a rider swap under the 'in the interest of speedway' rule. Once both teams have been confirmed with the officials the supporters then get to team manage for the evening. At this point the riders then put on their helmets & the turnstiles are opened. These cannot be removed until the last supporter has left the stadium after the meeting. The teams are then introduced as the home team & riders are introduced a rider 1 etc the same happens with the away team. As the riders are all in black leathers the only identity they have is a race jacket & helmet colour. I can only imagine the excitement of those spectators on the terrace not knowing who is representing 'their' team The keys positive points to this is that it removes the doubling up issues there will be no guests or rider replacement as the BSPL will always send 14 fit riders to each track for team selection. As the teams are simply known as the home & away team it's possible to have a league with more teams taking part than available venues. At the end of the season the prize for winning the various competitions are just simply returned to the BSPL office. Another benefit of this new operating model is there are no points limit issues as each team selection is based on pure luck.      Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, cowboy cookie returns? said: Just a thought to help the sport move forward, add a touch of supporter interaction & add some much needed suspense. Each club runs a competition on their website for two supporters to experience an interactive evening. The winning supporters have to arrive at the stadium 2 hours before the meeting. They are then escorted to the new VIP caravan that each track must have. Inside there are 14 riders all dressed in black leathers with BSPL approved paper bags over their heads. The 2 winning supporters then toss a coin to decide who is the representing the 'home' team & who represents the 'away' team. After this another coin is tossed to decide who has first pick of the riders.. They then take it in turns to pick a rider until each team has 7 riders. At this point the riders are asked to remove the paper bags to reveal to the excided winners who they are. At this point all those who know the true identity of the riders have to sign the official because this is speedway document that states they can never reveal the rider identities. After the big reveal the away team can demand a rider swap under the 'in the interest of speedway' rule. Once both teams have been confirmed with the officials the supporters then get to team manage for the evening. At this point the riders then put on their helmets & the turnstiles are opened. These cannot be removed until the last supporter has left the stadium after the meeting. The teams are then introduced as the home team & riders are introduced a rider 1 etc the same happens with the away team. As the riders are all in black leathers the only identity they have is a race jacket & helmet colour. I can only imagine the excitement of those spectators on the terrace not knowing who is representing 'their' team The keys positive points to this is that it removes the doubling up issues there will be no guests or rider replacement as the BSPL will always send 14 fit riders to each track for team selection. As the teams are simply known as the home & away team it's possible to have a league with more teams taking part than available venues. At the end of the season the prize for winning the various competitions are just simply returned to the BSPL office. Another benefit of this new operating model is there are no points limit issues as each team selection is based on pure luck.      Funnily enough my wife suggested something like this a few years ago but she didn't mention a VIP caravan, presumably because of the costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 14 hours ago, mikebv said: I was told that this was a secret document... They wont be happy you have launched their plan... At least you didnt mention the new rule for next season that states at each meeting the first two riders to turn up will be the captains, and that the first 12 riders to turn up after them will be given out numbers by the ref, (1 to 12), whilst the captains of the two teams look away... A coin will then be tossed between the two captains to see who can call out the first number... Whatever number they shout, the rider given that number by the ref then goes and stands behind them.. After all twelve are selected the 14 riders take to the track.. There has though been an addendum to the rule this week... It has been decreed that after all the numbers have been given out, each rider swaps places, so the captains wont be able to work out, just by going left to right, what number each rider is, and therefore pick all the best riders first.. Making the rubbish ones feel upset and sad...   Cowboy cookie returns has come up with a similar plan - see page 3 and as I have said in response it is very similar to something suggested by my wife a few years ago. Makes you wonder k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, SharpenRake said: Cowboy cookie returns has come up with a similar plan - see page 3 and as I have said in response it is very similar to something suggested by my wife a few years ago. Makes you wonder k Can she provide six numbers for tonight??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, mikebv said: Can she provide six numbers for tonight??? Yes, for a small sum  no guarantees of course I would add she's only been to speedway a few times but has got it sussed. Edited September 11, 2021 by SharpenRake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: Yes, for a small sum  no guarantees of course I would add she's only been to speedway a few times but has got it sussed. ie. Dont waste any time dwelling on the team aspect of it, or buying into it emotionally, and just enjoy the spectacle of the racing.... Edited September 11, 2021 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 On 9/10/2021 at 10:59 PM, Trees said: What were the you expecting, no league racing, free for all, challenges every week? How about some new original ideas that’s going to get the public interested - can’t just keep plodding along as we are - next season two rising stars per team no disrespect to the hopefully young rising star riders but it’s yet another devaluation of the product but will admission costs go down ? More likely to go up causing more fans to walk away - new ideas needed promotions need to think outside the box and it needs to be done now . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 Next year is six teams with only 21 riders to choose from each team picks their team prior to the season for home meetings only away team can use any one of the other 14Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/10/2021 at 5:46 PM, Fromafar said: Think that’s how they will see it judged by previous seasons. What Year it’s been ,They are having a new trophy this season,Rider of the Year with most Guest Appearances.It’s a close with many still in contention. I bet the winner can't be at the ceremony and they have to bring someone else in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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