Fromafar Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 39 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: So the referee ( s) stopped the meeting on the say so of one team manager ?…..really ? and then the ref (s) told the track curator exactly how to prepare the track to Redcars advantage ? Next you will be saying man didn’t land on the moon. It was all done in the Desert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Barry The Cat said: Rogers is a buffoon as Sandking says it’s hard to believe clubs continue to give him a prime role! He can brown nose his way into any club that's gullible enough, good luck to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berry9 Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: So the referee ( s) stopped the meeting on the say so of one team manager ?…..really ? and then the ref (s) told the track curator exactly how to prepare the track to Redcars advantage ? Next you will be saying man didn’t land on the moon. Don't forget your man Grobauer ended Jordan Stewarts season because he was out of control due an inadequate track prepared by a man who was not licensed to prepare it the riders had every reason to refuse to ride a dangerous track because past experience showed them the Birmingham promotion gave scant regaurd for their safety 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlead Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Fromafar said: Laurence Rogers sums it it up for me,he says there was little wrong with the track,a few bumps and bits but nothing the experienced riders should find troublesome.REALLY ,tell that to Stewart,Neilsen and Grobulaur and the fans standing around while the are carted off to hospital.No wonder the sport if failing in Birmingham. Absolute disgrace for a promoter to come out with a statement like that it shows scant regard for riders. When racing you can't always choose the line you want to take when racing close, if the rider hits one of 'bumps and bits' it could be carnage. If this was the only match where the track was in poor condition, then some of the comments would be fair, however, almost every team that's visited B'ham has complained about the dusty track and poor track prep. Edited September 9, 2021 by redlead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 I attended as a neutral as I have done for all but one of the meetings at Perry Barr this season. As expected there is much debate over where the blame lies for the events last night but one thing for sure is that as ever the fans always suffer on these occasions and the sport seems incapable of preventing such self inflicted damage. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Marshall07 said: Whatever you think you believe, maybe have a read of this posted by MPT earlier this morning. "It should have been 3rd time lucky was far from it. 3 times we have been to Birmingham and seen how track surface is far from race able. All the crap about tactics from bears side is absolutely not true! I came in after my first ride and said i refuse to ride on a dangerous track like that! They then bladed the track and yes it did make it a little bit better but far from race able. This should not keep going on at any track. Its unacceptable! We turn up with immaculate bikes and are expected to present ourselves professionally to then turn up to a track thats far from ideal. And then have an ex rider as a promoter saying we should just get on with it and hes rode worse. Its the sport there is suffering from bad promoting and publicity and an absolute farse of a track is definitely not helping or encouraging people to come and watch! A real shame as it can be an absolute great track with plenty of passing when prepared properly!" Not a very good ex rider at that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 19 hours ago, Bagpuss said: If you are saying you'd prefer to watch speedway at Poole over Belle Vue I'd suggest you are very much in the minority. On the basis of who attracts the better crowds, I think Poole win that hands down. TBH, I find the speed at the NSS exhilarating, the racing less so. Last Monday’s meeting was a good case in point, in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Bellers101 said: Not a very good ex rider at that! If u know when driving that their is a bump in the road do u drive round it? Does that not apply to speedway tracks??the throttle works both ways ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: On the basis of who attracts the better crowds, I think Poole win that hands down. TBH, I find the speed at the NSS exhilarating, the racing less so. Last Monday’s meeting was a good case in point, in my view. Poole and Manchester are very different areas and demographics so difficult to compare really. Each to their own and I respect your views, but for me the NSS is second to none as a race track with P'boro, Scunny and Redcar next in line. All great shaped tracks with multiple racing lines and most importantly smooth surfaces which riders trust and can race on with confidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Bagpuss said: Poole and Manchester are very different areas and demographics so difficult to compare really. Each to their own and I respect your views, but for me the NSS is second to none as a race track with P'boro, Scunny and Redcar next in line. All great shaped tracks with multiple racing lines and most importantly smooth surfaces which riders trust and can race on with confidence. You obviously haven't been to Glasgow recently then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, geoff100 said: If u know when driving that their is a bump in the road do u drive round it? Does that not apply to speedway tracks??the throttle works both ways ! Throttle on a speedway bike works very differently to that of a car!! Shut off to avoid a hole and you're going straight towards the fence. It's only ever people that have never ridden a modern day speedway bike that use that line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, Cookiefan said: You obviously haven't been to Glasgow recently then I haven't been since Lynn were PL but by all accounts and by what I've seen on YouTube it's a fantastic track too nowadays so probably could have added them to the list too in fairness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, geoff100 said: If u know when driving that their is a bump in the road do u drive round it? Does that not apply to speedway tracks??the throttle works both ways ! Yes, if there is a bump you can avoid it and the track is RIDEABLE not RACEABLE. The guys would like to try and entertain and race their bikes, not just stay alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I haven't been since Lynn were PL but by all accounts and by what I've seen on YouTube it's a fantastic track too nowadays so probably could have added them to the list too in fairness. Since sorted the dip on the 3rd bend out it's such a better racetrack. The fim qualifier probably one of the best meetings I've ever seen. Tbh it's not dissimilar to the NSS now in that it's pretty much flat out with wide corners and banking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlead Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: Throttle on a speedway bike works very differently to that of a car!! Shut off to avoid a hole and you're going straight towards the fence. It's only ever people that have never ridden a modern day speedway bike that use that line. Plus there are 3 other riders all trying to avoid the bump!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Since sorted the dip on the 3rd bend out it's such a better racetrack. The fim qualifier probably one of the best meetings I've ever seen. Tbh it's not dissimilar to the NSS now in that it's pretty much flat out with wide corners and banking It looks twice as wide as it was when I was last there too! Which would have been 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Bagpuss said: It looks twice as wide as it was when I was last there too! Which would have been 2009. Yeah back then were renting off the football club so track dimensions couldn't really be altered. Now our owners own the stadium they reduced the football pitch to widen the track 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, geoff100 said: If u know when driving that their is a bump in the road do u drive round it? Does that not apply to speedway tracks??the throttle works both ways ! I'd report it to whoever was responsible for the surface and ask them to fix it. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) Just one last point about riders refusing to race if they're not happy with the track ? riders these days seem very fickle to me... Kenny Carter never complained....just got on with it....even won a British Final on a rain soaked track at Brandon...'with a broken leg'....lifted on and off his bike before/after each race!!! Just makes me laugh when I think of Redcar the other night..... Edited September 13, 2021 by GiveusaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted September 13, 2021 Report Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Just one last point about riders refusing to race if they're not happy with the track ? riders these days seem very fickle to me... Kenny Carter never complained....just got on with it....even won a British Final on a rain soaked track at Brandon...'with a broken leg'....lifted on and off his bike before/after each race!!! Just makes me laugh when I think of Redcar the other night..... Yeh what was Jordan Stewart thinking...he should have strapped that spinal stretcher board he was laid on onto his bike and just got on with racing...tish fickle or what?... Edited September 13, 2021 by Bear_Bottom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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