Brummies v Bears take 3 08/08

[Bellers101]

55 minutes ago, Deano said:

Seemed okay from the terraces, normal close fast racing.

after ... dusty and drawn out.

loads walked out after heat four. 

Thanks Redcar. Be proud.

Blame the Birmingdump promotion or lack of it!

[Yearbyred]

47 minutes ago, Deano said:

We’re you there tonight?

Redcar wanted it dusty, not damp and grippy.

So the Brummies can’t ride the track if it’s dusty? Seemed to do ok when they beat Leicester a few weeks ago when according to updates it was a complete dust bowl.

Same dust bowl conditions when you beat Redcar by 20 points in the KOC meeting which shouldn’t have been re-run anyway.

So by your theory the Bears wanted to get the track back to how it was when they lost by 20 points?

 

 

[mikebaker]

Because of the poor track preparation way back in June. The Perry Barr track ended Jordan  Stewarts season. We are now into September, and the Birmingham Promotion still haven't sorted out the track. I am still waiting for a reimbursement from that cancelled meeting. If Birmingham do survive for 2022. Hope that this joke of a Promotion. Are out of the equation.

[Col]

I'd still like to know which riders weren't prepared to ride the track.  Sure it wasn't Wright, Kerr or MPT.  Surely a home team have the privilege of preparing their track to their liking?  Anyway that'll be my last live speedway for the season, next year it looks like every meeting I attend will be a 70+ mile round trip.  Thanks Redcar Diva's!

[bluejam]

40 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

I guess for the footie. If I paid to get in, no way I'm leaving after 4 heats, want my moneys worth, so to speak. 

 

Folk such as UK Martin wouldn't give a flying fig for the footie on TV and leave a speedway meeting after 4 heats tbh There are life long supporters walking awayThere are obviously serious problems which aren't being addressed

Edited September 8, 2021 by bluejam

[Col]

27 minutes ago, Yearbyred said:

So the Brummies can’t ride the track if it’s dusty? Seemed to do ok when they beat Leicester a few weeks ago when according to updates it was a complete dust bowl.

It wasn't dusty at all last week.  Brummies had obviously set their bikes up for the track as it was prepared 16-8 when I left.  Teeside Diva's hadn't.

[Col]

@Bellers101 confused about what?

[Yearbyred]

9 minutes ago, Col said:

It wasn't dusty at all last week.  Brummies had obviously set their bikes up for the track as it was prepared 16-8 when I left.  Teeside Diva's hadn't.

Obviously.

Redcar and their team of notoriously good gaters just love it dusty and clicked their fingers and the ref caved in to their demands. Bears are always pulling this trick, go behind and complain about the track. Works every time.

That’s what happens when you’re a Diva. Although leaving after 4 heats could be described as “diva” like behaviour too. 

It’s Teesside by the way.

 

[bororedlion]

9 hours ago, Deano said:

I think Redcar just killed any chance of Birmingham running next season.

 

Thanks be proud.

Unfortunateley Rather that ,Than any rider been killed on that track which is only a matter of time with the poor track preparation ! Which has been going on for most of the season .Only Redcar Complain?.Look on the Liecester speedway website what Nick Morris thought of it,after they rode there.
 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2021 by bororedlion

[Col]

18 minutes ago, Yearbyred said:

Although leaving after 4 heats could be described as “diva” like behaviour too. 

Funny man, you obviously haven't endured the M6 junction 10 after 21:00 recently.

[Bluenose]

Lets sort this.

1.......... COL    We have 2 fixtures left , not 4, Newcastle Home 22nd and Glasgow Away 24th do not count as are past cut off date the 19th.

2 ......... I  believe Mr Wright started all this ,as he had a tire removed from his bike before the meeting by the machine examiner, and was not happy ?,told to me and my mate by someone that came out of pits, ( We stand on bend 2 by pits gate). Saw said tire being rolled out of pits.

3..........Mr Wright got biggest Boo,s from the crowd for waving at the home fans!,.........not on.

4 ......... Mr Sarjeant was seen by us with his fist up ready to clobber some poor soul,but he suddenly stopped,did not see if anybody put him off doing it !?.

5.......... Past >>   Nielsen ran in to the back of one of our riders to cause his accident.

6 ......... Past >>   Plain racing accident Stewert / Grobauer , 3rd bend.

 

THE MAIN POINT TONIGHT IS.   That as in the last home meetings a young lad with 777 on his back did 6 pre-meeting laps on a 250 ?, i spoke to him before he left and asked how was the track, he said  "no problem", ...............i have never rode a bike myself but i would have thought he would of had more problems  with a lower power engine,can somebody put me right please.....................................K   R   O

[Pirio Barre]

1 hour ago, lisa-colette said:

I guess for the footie. If I paid to get in, no way I'm leaving after 4 heats, want my moneys worth, so to speak. 

I was one of them that left after heat 4, well not straight after heat 4 as that would have been a strange thing to do. I left after the announcement of the track review, tonight is bin night and the prospect of wheeling out the recycling seemed more enticing then hanging around watching a tractor(s) for however long.

This is by far not the first time time I've walked out early indeed on the reopening night of Perry Barr in 2007 I lasted till about heat 8 before jacking it in. That night they spent ages faffing around trying to get the starting gate to work and the track was so perfectly prepared it was like a billiard table (Zzz)

I've walked out of Poole a couple of times the first being back in the days of the Poole Wildcats so its nothing new, and my first visit to the NSS (albeit for a colts meeting) last about 6 heats before I thought this is just boring and off I trotted.

Edited September 9, 2021 by Pirio Barre
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[cyclone]

Damming quote on FB after tonight's match from soon to be retired & former Birmingham rider, Aaron Summers:-

"track is the worst I've ridden in the UK and I use to love Birmingham being 1 of my home tracks was like a billiard table then. Now you need a mx bike to ride it"

[MartinBSN]

1 hour ago, Bluenose said:

Lets sort this.

1.......... COL    We have 2 fixtures left , not 4, Newcastle Home 22nd and Glasgow Away 24th do not count as are past cut off date the 19th.

2 ......... I  believe Mr Wright started all this ,as he had a tire removed from his bike before the meeting by the machine examiner, and was not happy ?,told to me and my mate by someone that came out of pits, ( We stand on bend 2 by pits gate). Saw said tire being rolled out of pits.

3..........Mr Wright got biggest Boo,s from the crowd for waving at the home fans!,.........not on.

4 ......... Mr Sarjeant was seen by us with his fist up ready to clobber some poor soul,but he suddenly stopped,did not see if anybody put him off doing it !?.

5.......... Past >>   Nielsen ran in to the back of one of our riders to cause his accident.

6 ......... Past >>   Plain racing accident Stewert / Grobauer , 3rd bend.

 

THE MAIN POINT TONIGHT IS.   That as in the last home meetings a young lad with 777 on his back did 6 pre-meeting laps on a 250 ?, i spoke to him before he left and asked how was the track, he said  "no problem", ...............i have never rode a bike myself but i would have thought he would of had more problems  with a lower power engine,can somebody put me right please.....................................K   R   O

Wrights tyre stayed on his spare bike, so I'd maybe ignore your informant from now on

[Pirio Barre]

4 hours ago, cyclone said:

Damming quote on FB after tonight's match from soon to be retired & former Birmingham rider, Aaron Summers:-

"track is the worst I've ridden in the UK and I use to love Birmingham being 1 of my home tracks was like a billiard table then. Now you need a mx bike to ride it"

As I posted even a billiard table of a track doesn't stop something else happening to turn speedway (Zzz) It's just always gone on.

Also we can't forget that speedway is not a smooth velodrome it is ridden on different size tracks, different types of surfaces and in different weather. As a fan that's one of its great attractions and I would think as a rider too testing your abilities against other riders but also the track, every meeting and every race being a new challenge. And sometimes if you don't fancy it than so be it; you just have to back off and run a third or forth place and let the riders with the all-round skills and passion take the win.

I've been to Berwick (not Shielfield) on a lovely clear day only to find from out of nowhere a underground spring had appeared under the track near the fence on one the straights, meeting abandoned.

I've been to Berwick after heavy rainfall and a lot of the track had been moved up to the edges of the football pitch and if I remember correctly had even had white markings around it making the track only ¾ of its normal size on the straights and certainly not a billiard table but the meeting went successfully ahead.

I've seen a 65-0 at Peterborough and a cup final at Coventry in shocking condition when Poole wanted out but the ref said get on with it and Poole from wishing to go home and pack there kit away, really did get on with it and turned the meeting around and won.

Clearly I would never wish out and out dangerous track conditions on anyone, however the mind set of riders (management) really does come into play.

All of which doesn't help Joe Public standing there thinking I've seem them ride in worse than this.

 

 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Pirio Barre

[Deano]

7 hours ago, Marshall07 said:

Deano you clearly don't know what you're talking about so it's easier for you to just stop talking..

 

Love too. Biting off the hand that feeds you is how I’d put tonight’s shinnanigans.

 

I’ve seen speedway in far far far worse conditions over the years. I guess we just have a different rider these days.

If that’s the case today’s speedway isn’t for me. If Birmingham fold that’s the last £20 any promoter or rider get from me.

 

 

 

[The Dog]

Lost all respect for the Redcar management last night after they threw their toys out of the pram basically because they were getting outgated and beat early on. They appeared to have an agenda which goes back to the first meeting between the teams. Nothing to report on the track walk, didn't hear anything about the track from the first few heats and then the manager decided he wanted to speak to the referee. Even his own riders looked miffed. By this point, no rider had struggled with the track, nobody had fell off and Kerr had posted one of the fastest times of the year. 

So the referee had to come down because the team manager said his riders wouldn't ride. The manager insisted on the grading taking place. A stronger referee would have told them to crack on but once she agreed to walk the track they were always going to get what they wanted. It's these sort of childish shenanigans that's killing speedway and it was sad to see. 

The way Birmingham started, it was set up to be a really good meeting, Kerr was superb and showed everyone how to ride a track. The delay did enhance the crowd participation and produced a great atmosphere, something that a lot of meetings sadly lack. 

If the meeting had just carried on, it had the potential to be a classic but Redcars management had other ideas. Can only think it's a bit of payback from previously. I'm not bothered about the result too much but the way we got there, I do have an issue with. Yes Birmingham have had problems with the track this year but last night wasn't really one of them but Redcar made it a problem. 

Redcar are a good side with some excellent fans but the management side are quite frankly pathetic. 

[Yearbyred]

7 hours ago, Col said:

Funny man, you obviously haven't endured the M6 junction 10 after 21:00 recently.

Well you started it ;).

I’ve heard all about how difficult it is getting in an out of the stadium due to roadworks, Commonwealth games works etc after listening to the Radio WM commentary a number of times this season. Must have put a lot of casual fans off from attending.

[bororedlion]

7 hours ago, Bluenose said:

Lets sort this.

1.......... COL    We have 2 fixtures left , not 4, Newcastle Home 22nd and Glasgow Away 24th do not count as are past cut off date the 19th.

2 ......... I  believe Mr Wright started all this ,as he had a tire removed from his bike before the meeting by the machine examiner, and was not happy ?,told to me and my mate by someone that came out of pits, ( We stand on bend 2 by pits gate). Saw said tire being rolled out of pits.

3..........Mr Wright got biggest Boo,s from the crowd for waving at the home fans!,.........not on.

4 ......... Mr Sarjeant was seen by us with his fist up ready to clobber some poor soul,but he suddenly stopped,did not see if anybody put him off doing it !?.

5.......... Past >>   Nielsen ran in to the back of one of our riders to cause his accident.

6 ......... Past >>   Plain racing accident Stewert / Grobauer , 3rd bend.

 

THE MAIN POINT TONIGHT IS.   That as in the last home meetings a young lad with 777 on his back did 6 pre-meeting laps on a 250 ?, i spoke to him before he left and asked how was the track, he said  "no problem", ...............i have never rode a bike myself but i would have thought he would of had more problems  with a lower power engine,can somebody put me right please.....................................K   R   O

I saw a guy with 666 on his head I think it was down to him .

[Col]

25 minutes ago, Yearbyred said:

Well you started it ;).

I’ve heard all about how difficult it is getting in an out of the stadium due to roadworks, Commonwealth games works etc after listening to the Radio WM commentary a number of times this season. Must have put a lot of casual fans off from attending.

The A34 is stop & start due to traffic lights, regardless of roadworks, that isn't really the issue especially that late.  If the M6/M54 are clear I can get home in 20 minutes from Perry Barr, the roadworks at M6 junction 10 are the issue, it's taken me nearly 2 hours to get home recently.  I'll deal with it if the meeting ends at 21:15 as normal but any later and the build up of traffic crawling towards junction 10 is far worse, it's been a crawl from just after the M5 junction a couple of times.