cityrebel Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, East End Fan said: I don't remember seeing any dust and the track is very rarely touched until after heat 10 that I can recall. I presume that is because a result can be called after 10 races and with the curfew in mind they get on with things to make sure of a result. Fully agree. A great meeting with super racing. The result was immaterial for me, but pleased most of the people in the grandstand, that is for sure. I totally agree on taking an interval after heat 10. Getting a result has to be the priority over tractor breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 57 minutes ago, crescent girl said: So we insist that Man United have to give visiting teams a goal of a start at Old Trafford, because they have home advantage? Pish! Speedway and football are hardly comparable! I have always thought if you are at home then you shouldn't be able to use a TS. It's your home track (you ride it every week), if you struggle on it then hard luck. However if you wish to compare it to football, it would be like Southampton winning at Old Trafford 3-0 (hard to imagine I know!) and then Man Utd are allowed a penalty for being 3 goals down. Yes, absolutely ridiculous isn't it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthespanners Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Fromafar said: What was his problem regarding borrowing engine,he was going really well at Belle Vue on Monday night.Can he not just use his own equipment or was he “testing”.? It’s not that simple I’m afraid, having something that works on big fast tracks doesn’t always mean you have something that will work on the smaller slicker tracks. Adam has struggled to get power to ground on a few of the championship tracks including Scunny. Unfortunately sometimes in speedway it’s a real head scratcher and frustrating for all involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 9/8/2021 at 12:10 AM, Fozzie4388 said: Riding his 1st season at 2nd tier and seeing a lot of tracks for the first time and only 17 years old? What's Pijper and Aarnios's etc excuse they've been round years I didn't say he was disappointing or not racing to his potential, just that he was the weakest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 19 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Speedway and football are hardly comparable! I have always thought if you are at home then you shouldn't be able to use a TS. It's your home track (you ride it every week), if you struggle on it then hard luck. However if you wish to compare it to football, it would be like Southampton winning at Old Trafford 3-0 (hard to imagine I know!) and then Man Utd are allowed a penalty for being 3 goals down. Yes, absolutely ridiculous isn't it! It would be more accurate to say it's like the losing team getting an extra substitute or playing 12 vs 11! An extra penalty would be like the tactical joker rule! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 20 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Speedway and football are hardly comparable! I have always thought if you are at home then you shouldn't be able to use a TS. It's your home track (you ride it every week), if you struggle on it then hard luck. However if you wish to compare it to football, it would be like Southampton winning at Old Trafford 3-0 (hard to imagine I know!) and then Man Utd are allowed a penalty for being 3 goals down. Yes, absolutely ridiculous isn't it! It is a sporting contest. Make up all the rules you want -- but they have to be on a level playing field. A penalty when three goals down? Certainly -- but it has to apply to home and away teams equally. This isn't a defence of tactical subs one way or another -- all I want to emphasise is that home or away doesn't matter in a sporting contest -- the same rules have to apply to each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, crescent girl said: It is a sporting contest. Make up all the rules you want -- but they have to be on a level playing field. A penalty when three goals down? Certainly -- but it has to apply to home and away teams equally. This isn't a defence of tactical subs one way or another -- all I want to emphasise is that home or away doesn't matter in a sporting contest -- the same rules have to apply to each side. I get what your saying and that is fair enough. From my POV the home team already has an advantage so I don't think they should be given any more. But purely based on the TS and nothing else then yes I guess so. Although doesn't always work for the home team anyway. Poole vs Edinburgh, they used one in both meetings and didn't win either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/8/2021 at 8:35 AM, old bob at herne bay said: Scunny nearly got away with that … gusts and R/R strengthening their team considerably. Nicol got found out, jumped every start - and could have been excluded in anyone of his rides. For Kent ….. Heeps either cannot ride his home track or he is still troubled by injury, Morley needs a decent mechanic to look after his machinery which is a heap of junk IMO. Thanks for that Ben will be please to hear that all the money he sent on his bike was worth it. (to get told that they are a heap of junk) P.S If you think you can do better as a mechanic give it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, markm said: Thanks for that Ben will be please to hear that all the money he sent on his bike was worth it. (to get told that they are a heap of junk) P.S If you think you can do better as a mechanic give it a go. You must remember that Od Bob of Herne Bay is one of the wisest heads on this forum, sometimes referred to as a "know-All" LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) On 9/8/2021 at 10:19 PM, Onthespanners said: It’s not that simple I’m afraid, having something that works on big fast tracks doesn’t always mean you have something that will work on the smaller slicker tracks. Adam has struggled to get power to ground on a few of the championship tracks including Scunny. Unfortunately sometimes in speedway it’s a real head scratcher and frustrating for all involved. But Adam has been about a few years now so how does “ he have to borrow an engine” he raced on all sort of tracks throughout Europe,surely he knows what’s required.! and has an idea what engine to use.Hence why I was asking was he “testing” Edited September 12, 2021 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Fromafar said: But Adam has been about a few years now so how does “ he have to borrow an engine” he raced on all sort of tracks throughout Europe,surely he knows what’s required.! and has an idea what engine to use.Hence why I was asking was he “testing” He was offered that engine as "it’s very well suited" to the Kent track. unfortunately that didn’t turn out to be the case and it lost power as the meeting went on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 2:24 PM, crescent girl said: It is a sporting contest. Make up all the rules you want -- but they have to be on a level playing field. A penalty when three goals down? Certainly -- but it has to apply to home and away teams equally. This isn't a defence of tactical subs one way or another -- all I want to emphasise is that home or away doesn't matter in a sporting contest -- the same rules have to apply to each side. The same rules don't apply to both teams when it comes to the scores though! Home teans can't get 4 match points away teams can etc. Do you agree with this scoring system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, szkocjasid said: The same rules don't apply to both teams when it comes to the scores though! Home teans can't get 4 match points away teams can etc. Do you agree with this scoring system? same as for a draw, 1pt home 1 + 1pt bonus away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: The same rules don't apply to both teams when it comes to the scores though! Home teans can't get 4 match points away teams can etc. Do you agree with this scoring system? Surely it's worth an extra point if you've fended off a home team TS too?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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