Daniel Smith Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ohdannyboy said: whatever happened to kildemand? Why wouldn’t he be able to fit into the team, like he was at the start of the season? or is he still injured… Nothing stopping him coming in, he'd make the team significantly worse though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Forget last season, the team was s#¡+ and Lawson's average was inflated because of it. Iversen & Pickering are better than him so he was bound to not bag as many heat wins. Even on his current 5+, name an available rider that would come in & be better? Between 6-7 is Lawson's level. Pretty much every team is in the mud if any rider over 6 ave gets injured, because those replacements are just not there. This team will work but Worrall, Kerr & Jorgensen are the one's that need to be more consistent & Pickering needs to be much better away. We just can't replace 7+ rider's sufficiently, we try to do that the season is done. His average may well of been inflated a bit. But he was winning races against other teams top riders on a regular basis last season and they didn't all have sh$t teams/riders .This season he isn't. You can't tell me he has gone for 30 wins in 77 last season, to 4 wins in 34 so far this season due to the fact we have Niels and Josh. He was beating that quality of rider last season.. It will make a bit of a difference, but not to that extent. I presume you watched him both this season and last ??. For whatever reason he doesn't look as sharp/fast as he did last season. We just have different opinions as to why Richard has dropped off so much. Yes he's not the only one who needs to improve, i agree. When has TJ and Lewi been consistent, will they start now? Josh's away ave is poor i agree. Maybe Niels and Josh have put a curse on him this season Edited June 27, 2022 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 What makes Lawson's contribution even more impressive last season is that he was in a dreadful team, if you are losing every week motivation can be very difficult. Makes you wonder if his knee injury affects him more than he is letting on as he started the season very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: What makes Lawson's contribution even more impressive last season is that he was in a dreadful team, if you are losing every week motivation can be very difficult. Makes you wonder if his knee injury affects him more than he is letting on as he started the season very well. If Dan had watched the Stars last season and this one so far, he would see the drop off isn't due to Niels and Josh. I like Richard and hope he gets back to winning races for us again on a more regular basis this season. Whatever happens i'll be there cheering the lads on every week regardless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: What makes Lawson's contribution even more impressive last season is that he was in a dreadful team, if you are losing every week motivation can be very difficult. Makes you wonder if his knee injury affects him more than he is letting on as he started the season very well. Not sure I'd go with that as he's smashing it for Poole 3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: If Dan had watched the Stars last season and this one so far, he would see the drop off isn't due to Niels and Josh. I like Richard and hope he gets back to winning races for us again on a more regular basis this season. Whatever happens i'll be there cheering the lads on every week regardless. Look at last season's heatleaders & this 2021- Belle Vue - Bewley / Kurtz / S. Worrall Ipswich - King / Cook / Crump King's Lynn - Lawson / Jorgensen / Riss P'boro - Toft / Ostergaard / Harris Sheffield - Holder / Ellis / Pickering Wolves - Masters / Schein / Morris 2022 Belle Vue - Fricke / Kurtz / Zagar Ipswich - Doyle / King / Batchelor King's Lynn - Lawson / Iversen / Pickering P'boro - Toft / Harris / Ostergaard Sheffield - Holder / Ellis / Musielak Wolves - Masters / Douglas / Morris As you can see, apart from P'boro & Wolves every other teams heatleader positions have strengthened significantly over 2021. Of course, I'm not seeing races through 'the eye test' but I feel he's being harshly spoken about considering he's got harder competition, even within his own teammates in heats. He's now got rider's who can outgate, outsmart & faster than him now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/26/2022 at 6:03 PM, Bald Bloke said: That's not a change i would do. I don't think it would us any stronger. Sedgeman doing well tonight guesting for Sheffield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Not sure I'd go with that as he's smashing it for Poole Look at last season's heatleaders & this 2021- Belle Vue - Bewley / Kurtz / S. Worrall Ipswich - King / Cook / Crump King's Lynn - Lawson / Jorgensen / Riss P'boro - Toft / Ostergaard / Harris Sheffield - Holder / Ellis / Pickering Wolves - Masters / Schein / Morris 2022 Belle Vue - Fricke / Kurtz / Zagar Ipswich - Doyle / King / Batchelor King's Lynn - Lawson / Iversen / Pickering P'boro - Toft / Harris / Ostergaard Sheffield - Holder / Ellis / Musielak Wolves - Masters / Douglas / Morris As you can see, apart from P'boro & Wolves every other teams heatleader positions have strengthened significantly over 2021. Of course, I'm not seeing races through 'the eye test' but I feel he's being harshly spoken about considering he's got harder competition, even within his own teammates in heats. He's now got rider's who can outgate, outsmart & faster than him now. I have nothing against him. It's just that he has dropped off the most from last season, and the significant Improvement in the heat leader positions affects every rider in the league. I think out of the 30 riders in the Prem that ride in the 1-5, there's only 2 riders that have won less than Richard.. And they are all riding with better riders....Will will see if he can pick it up in the 2nd half of the season. I'm getting bored of this one now. We can agree to disagree on this one. Edited June 28, 2022 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, mrss said: Sedgeman doing well tonight guesting for Sheffield. We've seen Sedgemen start seasons well and then tail off before but based on tonight's evidence and his scores for Brum he could quite possibly strengthen our second string department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: We've seen Sedgemen start seasons well and then tail off before but based on tonight's evidence and his scores for Brum he could quite possibly strengthen our second string department. I wouldnt be surprised if he replaces Allen now at Sheffield full time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 51 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: We've seen Sedgemen start seasons well and then tail off before but based on tonight's evidence and his scores for Brum he could quite possibly strengthen our second string department. I think he would strengthen anyone the way he is riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Lawson's form seems to dip when hes at #1 almost as if he doesn't want to be there really , hes more happy being 3 or 5 Edited June 28, 2022 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, scoobydoo said: Lawson's form seems to dip when hes at #1 almost as if he doesn't want to be there really , hes more happy being 3 or 5 Yeah he's not a number 1. Much more suited to 3 or 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 The new averages from July 1st are: NKI 7.59 Pickering 7.21 Lawson7.02 Worrall 5.80 Kerr 5.61 Jorgensen 5.47 Total 38.70 Huge problem for Lynn now imo is that Jorgensen goes to reserve.I really do think maybe a double change is needed now obviously NKI needs to be replaced,but with Jorgensen going to reserve i think he made need replacing too.We no longer have a good No6,but we have gone from that to nearly the worst one,he should be ahead of Kemp but on par with Allen,Riss and Etheridge and definitely behind Basso. Another season of woes maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 35 minutes ago, tellboy said: The new averages from July 1st are: NKI 7.59 Pickering 7.21 Lawson7.02 Worrall 5.80 Kerr 5.61 Jorgensen 5.47 Total 38.70 Huge problem for Lynn now imo is that Jorgensen goes to reserve.I really do think maybe a double change is needed now obviously NKI needs to be replaced,but with Jorgensen going to reserve i think he made need replacing too.We no longer have a good No6,but we have gone from that to nearly the worst one,he should be ahead of Kemp but on par with Allen,Riss and Etheridge and definitely behind Basso. Another season of woes maybe? TJ might kick on at reserve, it might give him an easier first ride to give him confidence at the start of the meetings, so he doesn't feel the desperate need to twitch or break the tapes every week. Until he can compose himself at the start line and stop screwing himself up every week, he'll be the same inconsistent self every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, tellboy said: The new averages from July 1st are: NKI 7.59 Pickering 7.21 Lawson7.02 Worrall 5.80 Kerr 5.61 Jorgensen 5.47 Total 38.70 Huge problem for Lynn now imo is that Jorgensen goes to reserve.I really do think maybe a double change is needed now obviously NKI needs to be replaced,but with Jorgensen going to reserve i think he made need replacing too.We no longer have a good No6,but we have gone from that to nearly the worst one,he should be ahead of Kemp but on par with Allen,Riss and Etheridge and definitely behind Basso. Another season of woes maybe? I'm glad someone else has posted this Tel . I agree, if we are serious we need to make changes somewhere. No doubt TJ will be back in the 1-5 after a month. But if we don't do something very soon we're done for a top 4 spot. If the Panthers beat us on Monday we are 10 points behind 4th placed Wolves, and bottom. Edited June 29, 2022 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 With all teams riding on Monday Lynn will have to run with RR at Peterborough, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 hours ago, tellboy said: The new averages from July 1st are: NKI 7.59 Pickering 7.21 Lawson7.02 Worrall 5.80 Kerr 5.61 Jorgensen 5.47 Total 38.70 Huge problem for Lynn now imo is that Jorgensen goes to reserve.I really do think maybe a double change is needed now obviously NKI needs to be replaced,but with Jorgensen going to reserve i think he made need replacing too.We no longer have a good No6,but we have gone from that to nearly the worst one,he should be ahead of Kemp but on par with Allen,Riss and Etheridge and definitely behind Basso. Another season of woes maybe? Alternatively Jorgensen may kick start his season and score lots of points. Personally I don't see Jorgensen and Worrall swapping being a big deal, but having to run R/R for Iversen very much is at the monemt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 29 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Alternatively Jorgensen may kick start his season and score lots of points. Personally I don't see Jorgensen and Worrall swapping being a big deal, but having to run R/R for Iversen very much is at the monemt. Like Jorgensen showed last week,he can beat Holder easily as well as getting beat easily by Mountain at home.The only thing consistent with Jorgensen is his in-consisitency.This is the worst i have seen Jorgensen at home this season.With the way the team is built he has to score well most meetings. Maybe we can poach R.Jensen now to fill in for NKI,Poland permitting of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, tellboy said: Like Jorgensen showed last week,he can beat Holder easily as well as getting beat easily by Mountain at home.The only thing consistent with Jorgensen is his in-consisitency.This is the worst i have seen Jorgensen at home this season.With the way the team is built he has to score well most meetings. Maybe we can poach R.Jensen now to fill in for NKI,Poland permitting of course. 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Alternatively Jorgensen may kick start his season and score lots of points. Personally I don't see Jorgensen and Worrall swapping being a big deal, but having to run R/R for Iversen very much is at the monemt. My thinking is that we are weak whoever we have at reserve. But in the engine room. If TJ, Richie or Lewi are at reserve, our engine room isn't good enough. So we have 7.89 to play with for Niels. We know Lambo fits ( Just dreaming) and Rasser comes in just under. I was confident on the Rasser thing to P/boro, bit something is/was up( or i was told bull crap). We're not privy to what goes on behind the scenes, so who knows. But i think TJ and Lewi are the Scott McTominay of the Stars Edited June 29, 2022 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 52 minutes ago, tellboy said: Like Jorgensen showed last week,he can beat Holder easily as well as getting beat easily by Mountain at home.The only thing consistent with Jorgensen is his in-consisitency.This is the worst i have seen Jorgensen at home this season.With the way the team is built he has to score well most meetings. Maybe we can poach R.Jensen now to fill in for NKI,Poland permitting of course. Don't disagree but worth noting that Worrall has had a 3, two 4's and a 5 since he's been at reserve as well as some good scores so he's not been Mr consistency either. I think Iversen woulld have been replaced by now if it was going to happen, we have four meetings until he is hopefully back, let's hope the season is still alive then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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