HGould Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 people in glass houses and all that. I have a recollection of Mulford letting Kent down a few times in NDL with transport issues and lack of bikes etc. If you are looking at proven NDL / CL form then it's a no brainer that Edwards would be preferred and surprising he wasn't a dedicated no 8 although he is riding NDL and CL already. May be Mulford needs to focus on Grass/Long Track or Speedway for now. He's similar level on Grass to Atkins and Wirtzfeld both of whom seem to have had a rather in/out relationship with Speedway too. The common fact is they all have talent but may be trying to spread it too thinly. The other issue for mulford is that as long as he's viewed as a Grass Track ridr he won't be attractive to well over half of the CL teams who race Friday/Saturday and Sunday as preferred day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, wtf said: I agree, it's not a great way for Kings Lynn to do things, and however good it feels for Jake now, venting your opinion on social media, it only alienates those potential future employers, looks unprofessional, and drags you down to their level. Riders get treated like this all the time. Doesn't make it right, and I don't condone it, but venting publicly never improves the situation. You say that making this public is not helpful. I know of many instances of, usually junior riders, being treated badly and nothing is said in public. If you advocate that this is the right course of action, you are condoning such behaviour by the promoters and powers that be and it will continue. Unchallenged. I'm not sure if the lad said more than has been reported here, but the quoted FB post is quite restrained in my opinion. It lays out the facts as he knows them and leaves us to make our own judgement. Of course, there are always two sides to every argument. Perhaps KL could, dispassionately, put their side? In fact KL have said, "Jake (Mulford) has some grasstrack commitments abroad which means he has to dash off early on Friday morning, so I felt it would be prudent to go with Jason for what’s a really important match for us – we can’t afford to take any chances.” How is a rider travelling the day after a meeting, taking a risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 hours ago, scoobydoo said: Jason Edwards signed as the injury replacement RS makes debut on Thursday v Sheffield This will now be all 3 leagues declared & raced in this year. Is this still allowed? I know other Premiership teams have NDL riders signed as no8's as well as riding in the CL but rarely ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, IronScorpion said: You are not just talking about our top league racing Monday & Thursdays, you are talking about British league racing so I will add to this. Poland leagues race Saturday, Sunday & Monday & drop in the occasional Friday. Sweden do Tuesdays but have now added Thursday to their racing Schedule. Only Denmark race on their, usual, race day of Wednesday. Difference is the Polish clubs only ride one day a week but change their days to accommodate TV... Which can only be a good thing as it shows that there is an audience for what they are offering, and delivers a very tidy sum of money indeed (in the several millions), from the TV companies who have to outbid each other for the rights to show the sport.. Whereas in the UK we run seven days a week to accommodate riders' earning potential.. Regardless of the impact to the credibility and future success of the sport that this has... Hence the TV deal over here is "somewhat different"... Edited June 20, 2022 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: Difference is the Polish clubs only ride one Whereas in the UK we run seven days a week to accommodate riders' earning potential.. You make it sound we only run seven days a week so some riders can earn more,is that the case?Thought we have always run 7 days a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: This will now be all 3 leagues declared & raced in this year. Is this still allowed? I know other Premiership teams have NDL riders signed as no8's as well as riding in the CL but rarely ride. But the no8's can have more meetings in the PL,its basically a shared berth where the in form rider will get the meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, tellboy said: You make it sound we only run seven days a week so some riders can earn more,is that the case?Thought we have always run 7 days a week. We used to run seven days a week due to the amount of teams running, and there was hardly any clashes with foreign leagues given so few riders rode in them.. German Longtrack and the many thousands that the top riders could earn for an afternoon at one of their massive meetings was more of a threat than any other domestic league.. Now we run seven days to ensure that the riders can earn as much as is possible, either through their teams fixture list, or guesting.... And it also allows promoters to use riders from a higher level to bolster their offer to their punters... All it does though is create more headaches trying to fit in meetings around FIM meetings, meaning more guests, or trying to run meetings with riders missing due to injuries because they have had no time to have them heal, meaning more guests in both leagues for the same missing rider.. One injury can mean four or five meetings become a "Guestfest" due to having so many double up.. Anyhow, it wont change, because if it could, it surely would already have done so, given the negative impact it has on the sport.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, mikebv said: We used to run seven days a week due to the amount of teams running, and there was hardly any clashes with foreign leagues given so few riders rode in them.. German Longtrack and the many thousands that the top riders could earn for an afternoon at one of their massive meetings was more of a threat than any other domestic league.. Now we run seven days to ensure that the riders can earn as much as is possible, either through their teams fixture list, or guesting.... And it also allows promoters to use riders from a higher level to bolster their offer to their punters... All it does though is create more headaches trying to fit in meetings around FIM meetings, meaning more guests, or trying to run meetings with riders missing due to injuries because they have had no time to have them heal, meaning more guests in both leagues for the same missing rider.. One injury can mean four or five meetings become a "Guestfest" due to having so many double up.. Anyhow, it wont change, because if it could, it surely would already have done so, given the negative impact it has on the sport.. It could change But needs 5 years of constant supply from the NDL into the championship but it's far too strong, for the good of the sport it needs to weaken to become a platform where riders can progress But then fans will say they dont want a watered down product even if it becomes £10/12 to get in as a result, meaning long term their beloved club dies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: It could change But needs 5 years of constant supply from the NDL into the championship but it's far too strong, for the good of the sport it needs to weaken to become a platform where riders can progress But then fans will say they dont want a watered down product even if it becomes £10/12 to get in as a result, meaning long term their beloved club dies It is crackers isnt it? Due to the way the leagues are contrived, they have rendered them pretty worthless.. Yet should some Div 2 team not be able to run with Div 1 HL"s there will be fans complaining that they may miss out on the play offs because of it.. There is a reason Poland dont use guests or doubling up, (DU Covid excepted), and that is they know they will destroy what they have if they do.. They also know that they need a constant stream of riders to keep Poland at the top which keeps the media interested, so have Polish "juniors" at six and seven of every team. And also now run an international U24 league to hopefully bring through and develop Brits, Danes, Swedes, Aussies etc so they can fill the overseas riders slots inevitably vacated by the current incumbents as they get older.. Light years in front, however the UK could do a smaller similar operating model but choose not to.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: May be but is he that much better than Mulford?? Alot better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, mikebv said: We used to run seven days a week due to the amount of teams running, and there was hardly any clashes with foreign leagues given so few riders rode in them.. German Longtrack and the many thousands that the top riders could earn for an afternoon at one of their massive meetings was more of a threat than any other domestic league.. Now we run seven days to ensure that the riders can earn as much as is possible, either through their teams fixture list, or guesting.... And it also allows promoters to use riders from a higher level to bolster their offer to their punters... All it does though is create more headaches trying to fit in meetings around FIM meetings, meaning more guests, or trying to run meetings with riders missing due to injuries because they have had no time to have them heal, meaning more guests in both leagues for the same missing rider.. One injury can mean four or five meetings become a "Guestfest" due to having so many double up.. Anyhow, it wont change, because if it could, it surely would already have done so, given the negative impact it has on the sport.. Is there a club that races on Tuesdays these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Trees said: Is there a club that races on Tuesdays these days? Are you so blinkered with Kings Lynn that you don`t know that Plymouth race on Tuesday`s 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 39 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Are you so blinkered with Kings Lynn that you don`t know that Plymouth race on Tuesday`s Just asking :p I'll admit to not reading my Star from back to front oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdannyboy Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 Jason Edwards was always going to be the best option, unfortunately from what I’ve seen from Mulford he’s miles off the pace, and for once it’s nice to see Lynn be abit ruthless, although anyone heard of any whispers on Neil’s replacement, r/r will quite frankly not work, so can’t rely on that week in week out, maybe nothing but did anyone see Rooboy’s twitter photo? Putting his bikes back together… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 6 hours ago, IronScorpion said: This will now be all 3 leagues declared & raced in this year. Is this still allowed? I know other Premiership teams have NDL riders signed as no8's as well as riding in the CL but rarely ride. Should mean Edwards having to give up his NL spot with Mildenhall. That's what happened to Leon Flint last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Should mean Edwards having to give up his NL spot with Mildenhall. That's what happened to Leon Flint last year! Why?Thompson twins,Jenkins have all ridden 3 leagues this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, tellboy said: Why?Thompson twins,Jenkins have all ridden 3 leagues this season. The rule was dropped so no problem now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 hours ago, tellboy said: Why?Thompson twins,Jenkins have all ridden 3 leagues this season. They were all number 8s, Edwards would be a RS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 hours ago, mc131 said: The rule was dropped so no problem now Another rule dropped after only one season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: They were all number 8s, Edwards would be a RS They are,but they can all ride as the rising star if preferred by their teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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