Starman2006 Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, heathen52 said: Anyone that has Stadia Uk/ Gaming International or whatever they call themselves these days needs to worry, they really are developers using primarily Greyhound Stadia as a front, Bristol, Milton Keynes, Reading, Swindon and Poole with Torquay Utd FC recently added to there fast reducing portfolio, It really would be in the best interests of Poole residents if the Lease were to be taken over by the Speedway that would at least insure continuity for the foreseeable. I note the comments about covenants they are useful in some cases that is until Local Councils need to raise money then they conveniently get overturned, by the way whats the situation with Bournemouth Cricket Ground ? when i lived there there was chatter about this being redeveloped, i understood there was a covenant in place there to. Speedway is in a perilous state in the UK and can ill afford to lose anymore Tracks as its looking like there will be at least three Teams that will struggle to come to the tapes in 2022, the powers that be really need to be realistic and face up to the economic facts and stop paying out what they dont have coming in, semi professional is the way to go and if riders dont like it then they know what to do, Yes there will always be certain Teams that pay over the odds but its there choice to run an unsustainable business model, probably 2 Leagues next season Premier and NDL but maybe Speedway needs to step back before it can rebuild again but one thing is for sure it cant continue as it is. Good sensible post mate. I would definately say it will be two leagues next season. Amalgmation of Prem /Champ and NDL. Although Gaming International might prove very stubborn Edited August 30, 2021 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 9:51 PM, lisa-colette said: Are you on twitter? A Poole fan has put on there what Matt said. First talked about the track, then about Dan doing the day to day running of the club and that he is doing really well but Matt still does all the riders contracts. Also about wanting to keep Benjamin Basso for next year and he thinks in 18 months time he will be a 'superstar' but he also predicted Brady would be a GP winner, so we will see! Also said about landlords and something about possible legal action and council on our side(I think, not 100% on that as I missed a bit as I was being asked what the score was at the time) and how he will need everyone's support in next few weeks/months and not to panic. Also thanked the fans for all their support. Thanks for letting us know Sounds promising and all under control... More than I can say about my club... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Thanks for letting us know Sounds promising and all under control... More than I can say about my club... You're welcome. I only really half listen to interviews during the meeting. But when Matt Ford starts talking you definitely listen! Most of the crowd do, almost like you can hear a pin drop (unless you are near a drunk lady! ) Will also keep my fingers crossed for Newcastle and Birmingham. Edited August 31, 2021 by lisa-colette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 16 hours ago, heathen52 said: Anyone that has Stadia Uk/ Gaming International or whatever they call themselves these days needs to worry, they really are developers using primarily Greyhound Stadia as a front, Bristol, Milton Keynes, Reading, Swindon and Poole with Torquay Utd FC recently added to there fast reducing portfolio, It really would be in the best interests of Poole residents if the Lease were to be taken over by the Speedway that would at least insure continuity for the foreseeable. I note the comments about covenants they are useful in some cases that is until Local Councils need to raise money then they conveniently get overturned, by the way whats the situation with Bournemouth Cricket Ground ? when i lived there there was chatter about this being redeveloped, i understood there was a covenant in place there to. Speedway is in a perilous state in the UK and can ill afford to lose anymore Tracks as its looking like there will be at least three Teams that will struggle to come to the tapes in 2022, the powers that be really need to be realistic and face up to the economic facts and stop paying out what they dont have coming in, semi professional is the way to go and if riders dont like it then they know what to do, Yes there will always be certain Teams that pay over the odds but its there choice to run an unsustainable business model, probably 2 Leagues next season Premier and NDL but maybe Speedway needs to step back before it can rebuild again but one thing is for sure it cant continue as it is. I believe Dean Park is being used by Bournemouth University and a couple of local teams too at the moment but as you say, due to its location it's a developers dream. I'm not a cricket fan but it's quite close to me and back in the day before all day opening, when it hosted county cricket it was the 'go to' place when my local pub called time in the afternoon because the beer tent was open! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, lisa-colette said: You're welcome. I only really half listen to interviews during the meeting. But when Matt Ford starts talking you definitely listen! Most of the crowd do, almost like you can hear a pin drop (unless you are near a drunk lady! ) Will also keep my fingers crossed for Newcastle and Birmingham. Matt's comments referred to the landlords (GI) wanting to impose a dramatic increase in rent, without negotiation, despite only parts of the stadium being available/open and other parts eg changing rooms, in a state of disrepair - this being despite the accepted and agreed 3% annual increase since Matt took over in 1999. The Council Leader said publicly in 2 video Q&As a few weeks ago that they would support the retention of speedway in Poole and also assist/intervene if the leaseholders were making things difficult!! Those videos and other evidence including photos will I'm sure be in the hands of Poole Speedway's solicitors - who are also a club sponsor and partner in Matt's French Chateau business - to bring pressure where its needed!! Meanwhile, the track is receiving some serious work this week with some clay-based material secured from Edinburgh and being transported down today in time for Friday's meeting, along with some new track equipment - a vibrating road roller no less!!!. Edited August 31, 2021 by Skidder1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Excellent news. It looks like the shale has been lacking a decent clay percentage. On another note, when up in Berwick recently, I was take to where the old Berrington Louth speedway track was located. It was in the middle of nowhere on a single track road, then up a farmers track. Impossible to believe that such a remote spot had a top flight speedway team. Nothing now remains and it’s just farmers fields. Except for a great big pile of shale. Don’t know if the shale would be any good for anything after 26 years sitting there, but there was lots of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Excellent news. It looks like the shale has been lacking a decent clay percentage. On another note, when up in Berwick recently, I was take to where the old Berrington Louth speedway track was located. It was in the middle of nowhere on a single track road, then up a farmers track. Impossible to believe that such a remote spot had a top flight speedway team. Nothing now remains and it’s just farmers fields. Except for a great big pile of shale. Don’t know if the shale would be any good for anything after 26 years sitting there, but there was lots of it! I went there four times. It was an unbelievable location for a speedway stadium. The track was small with a big home advantage. Edited August 31, 2021 by cityrebel Mistake in post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, cityrebel said: I went there four times. It was an unbelievable location for a speedway stadium. The track was small with a big home advantage. The track was seemingly based on Mildenhall size,not sure ther was big Home advantage,we had some pretty decent Teams in were time there.Good very good racing IMO.I do feel it was an error not to make the track a little bigger considering the land available 10 metres on the straight length would have made a big difference.IMO.Great Days!! Edited August 31, 2021 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piratepride87 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) On 8/29/2021 at 9:14 PM, Diamonds85 said: Shame as I was really looking forward to my trip down, decided to get this meeting in on the way down to Plymouth to watch the Diamonds on Tuesday, make a weekend of it... I expected a lot more from the supposed biggest club in the country, but I guess every club has their bad days... I've heard a lot about the track at Poole but was astonished about how bad it looked when I first came in... Looks like something desperately needs done... Would have been interesting to hear what Matt Ford was saying about the future of the club but the loud mouthed drunk woman in front of me clearly doesn't like him and shouted over everything he said... Hope the club survives Where were you in the stadium??? Edited September 1, 2021 by Piratepride87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 7:52 PM, heathen52 said: Anyone that has Stadia Uk/ Gaming International or whatever they call themselves these days as Landlords needs to worry, they really are developers using primarily Greyhound Stadia as a front, Bristol, Milton Keynes, Reading, Swindon and Poole with Torquay Utd FC recently added to there fast reducing portfolio, It really would be in the best interests of Poole residents if the Lease were to be taken over by the Speedway that would at least ensure continuity for the foreseeable. I note the comments about covenants they are useful in some cases that is until Local Councils need to raise money then they conveniently get overturned, by the way whats the situation with Bournemouth Cricket Ground ? when i lived there there was chatter about this being redeveloped, i understood there was a covenant in place there to. Speedway is in a perilous state in the UK and can ill afford to lose anymore Tracks as its looking like there will be at least three Teams that will struggle to come to the tapes in 2022, the powers that be really need to be realistic and face up to the economic facts and stop paying out what they dont have coming in, semi professional is the way to go and if riders dont like it then they know what to do, Yes there will always be certain Teams that pay over the odds but its there choice to run an unsustainable business model, probably 2 Leagues next season Premier and NDL but maybe Speedway needs to step back before it can rebuild again but one thing is for sure it cant continue as it is. In Manchester, they are demolishing the old Kirkmanshulme Road track, not sure who owns it, probably council, (I think speedway, dogs & stock cars used it) & that had a covenant on it but it has not taken long to change its use for housing & across the road, the old Showcase Cinema car park has been demolished( but for what use, I do not know). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 2:44 AM, Piratepride87 said: Where were you in the stadium??? In the main stand near bend 4 Honestly, the stadium itself and the atmosphere of the crowd were brilliant, but the track looked terrible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: In the main stand near bend 4 Honestly, the stadium itself and the atmosphere of the crowd were brilliant, but the track looked terrible... Yes, that is true. Bend 3 and 4 looked a lot better after they sorted the hole the size of a kitchen table out! I was by bend 4 and didn't see anyone's bike lift up after that apart from Shanes. But I think he had gone past the point of where the hole was when he crashed for the second time (when Bomber was seeing if he was alright he was pointing to exiting point of bend 4 on the outside). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, lisa-colette said: Yes, that is true. Bend 3 and 4 looked a lot better after they sorted the hole the size of a kitchen table out! I was by bend 4 and didn't see anyone's bike lift up after that apart from Shanes. But I think he had gone past the point of where the hole was when he crashed for the second time (when Bomber was seeing if he was alright he was pointing to exiting point of bend 4 on the outside). Yes, it did look a lot better after they took an hour and fixed it, what I'm concerned about is how the hole was allowed for the start of the meeting? It was CLEARLY visible before the meeting and the tractor was working extensively on it before the meeting even began, so there was clearly some concern prior to tapes up... Rider safety is MOST important, so if there's any issues or concerns, they should be sorted before any rider is expected to ride on it... A 'kitchen table sized hole' doesn't just appear after a few laps (and it didn't it was there all along) Obviously I don't know what the track is like normally as it was a one off visit for me. If Poole had a nice track, it would be the best place in the country for speedway by a mile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 They were working on a couple of spongy patches on entries to bends. The hole took everyone by surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz9100 Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Yes, it did look a lot better after they took an hour and fixed it, what I'm concerned about is how the hole was allowed for the start of the meeting? It was CLEARLY visible before the meeting and the tractor was working extensively on it before the meeting even began, so there was clearly some concern prior to tapes up... Rider safety is MOST important, so if there's any issues or concerns, they should be sorted before any rider is expected to ride on it... A 'kitchen table sized hole' doesn't just appear after a few laps (and it didn't it was there all along) Obviously I don't know what the track is like normally as it was a one off visit for me. If Poole had a nice track, it would be the best place in the country for speedway by a mile Surely if the hole was CLEARLY visible before the meeting how come neither team spotted it on their track walk prior the start? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, daz9100 said: Surely if the hole was CLEARLY visible before the meeting how come neither team spotted it on their track walk prior the start? Maybe there was a carpet over it? Edited September 2, 2021 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: Maybe there was a carpet over it? Table cloth 3 hours ago, daz9100 said: Surely if the hole was CLEARLY visible before the meeting how come neither team spotted it on their track walk prior the start? Probably was spotted, hence why the tractor was extensively working there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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