scoobydoo Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, hagonshocker said: Holder Batchelor Ellis Howarth Pickering top 5 ....no not stronger than Tigers in particular especially as Sheffield have Stefan Nielsen at reserve and he's in Pirates 1-5 but certainly would agree about being stronger than Ipswich etc Bit pointless him making that statement as who would of ridden for Poole as all there HLs are long serving riders with there present premiership teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, hagonshocker said: Holder Batchelor Ellis Howarth Pickering top 5 ....no not stronger than Tigers in particular especially as Sheffield have Stefan Nielsen at reserve and he's in Pirates 1-5 but certainly would agree about being stronger than Ipswich etc Neilsen is at reserve for Poole on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, mikebv said: Well as they are all pretty much the same riders, there cannot be much difference between the two leagues, therefore quite possibly a Div 2 team with three Div 1 Heat Leaders wont be "too far away" if they rode as Poole in Div 1. However.. Having individuals racing against themselves in the same race for both teams, might even be a bit far fetched for even UK Speedway to think up a regulation which allows it... Wouldnt surprise if they have thought about it though... That’s not the point I was making. The strength of the Poole team as it stands would hold its own in the “top” flight, when in truth there’s really nothing now between the two leagues. I remember the days back in the 70’s when a NL number one struggled to hold down a second string/reserve berth. There’s no doubt in my mind we are heading for one league, perhaps with a north/south divide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 With it looking like Newcastle could be finished end of this season maybe that one league is another step closer or the championship is to have less teams in 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: That’s not the point I was making. The strength of the Poole team as it stands would hold its own in the “top” flight, when in truth there’s really nothing now between the two leagues. I remember the days back in the 70’s when a NL number one struggled to hold down a second string/reserve berth. There’s no doubt in my mind we are heading for one league, perhaps with a north/south divide. Two leagues for me... One "top league" and one similar to the pre Covid NDL level.. No point in making teams pay out what they cannot afford just to make up one league.. This happened this season with Div Two, hence we are where we are.. Far too many clubs whose attendance would support an NDL team successfully, were in at a level that was the strongest it had been for years... Just to ensure riders got enough rides. And you can guarantee that if one league existed, some Promoters would ensure they still got the best of the deal and let those lesser teams end up fighting for scraps.. And therefore, paying out daft money just to compete, as rider demand exceeds supply.. And we would be in a similar situation this time next year to where we are now. Edited August 31, 2021 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Another good day out at the NSS Belle Vue, good racing, viewing and all round one of the best experiences in British Speedway, even managed a quick chat with fellow Cumbrian Dan Bewley. Also there must have been around 20 Comets fans in attendance in the packed crowd, it just shows that Speedway can be successful in the UK given the right ingredients.... Edited August 31, 2021 by topaz325 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: That’s not the point I was making. The strength of the Poole team as it stands would hold its own in the “top” flight, when in truth there’s really nothing now between the two leagues. I remember the days back in the 70’s when a NL number one struggled to hold down a second string/reserve berth. There’s no doubt in my mind we are heading for one league, perhaps with a north/south divide. Which begs the question why isn’t Poole in the Premiership. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 couldnt afford it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: That’s not the point I was making. The strength of the Poole team as it stands would hold its own in the “top” flight, when in truth there’s really nothing now between the two leagues. I remember the days back in the 70’s when a NL number one struggled to hold down a second string/reserve berth. There’s no doubt in my mind we are heading for one league, perhaps with a north/south divide. How would it be one league with a North South divide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 58 minutes ago, poole keith said: couldnt afford it Also the weds night thing, but yeah mainly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, tellboy said: How would it be one league with a North South divide? Would make sense, more people travelling to away meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, lisa-colette said: Would make sense, more people travelling to away meetings. But how is it one league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, tellboy said: But how is it one league? The table is one league table but you don't play everyone in that table just half of them and top 4 meet for playoff SF or top 8 meet for playoff QF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: The table is one league table but you don't play everyone in that table just half of them and top 4 meet for playoff SF or top 8 meet for playoff QF. So one league table where everyone don't ride each other,i find that a bit weird tbh.Would this only be in speedway this would happen,if it is it would make perfect sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, tellboy said: So one league table where everyone don't ride each other,i find that a bit weird tbh.Would this only be in speedway this would happen,if it is it would make perfect sense The US Conference system doesn't have everyone playing each other.. Maybe Speedway could do something like that? Eg 4 times v the teams in your North Conference and 2 times v the teams in the South? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, tellboy said: So one league table where everyone don't ride each other,i find that a bit weird tbh.Would this only be in speedway this would happen,if it is it would make perfect sense Only way I can work it with a North/South divide whilst still having one league! Or you could have 2 separate tables and top 2 or 4 from both meet for playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 21 hours ago, acef said: Not the worst meeting for Monmore. It’s a difficult track and isn’t suited to today’s rider. That said I’ve seen worse over the last few years here. BV have an issue in the middle of this team. Both Worralls have been poor, and today was the worst I’ve seen from Steve for a long, long time. He was nowhere near quick enough at the NSS and for whatever reason that carried onto the return fixture on a completely different track which has previously suited him. There are no reasons sometimes, whenever he puts a BV race jacket on he suddenly becomes an amateur rider. Odd. Bewley was excellent across the day and only had one blip off gate 3 which clearly wasn’t working. He looked down on power in heat 13, I don’t know if anyone noticed that but it was weird. I almost felt like fatigue was kicking in, he was struggling to hang onto the bike. Maybe just me. Wolves look very good, but can certainly be beaten. They will pick us in the semi, which will probably be the end of us. If they were to pick someone else I’d actually fancy us to make the final. Compared to Belle Vue's last visit to Monmore, the racing last night was not of the same standard. What made last night better was the atmosphere, which was electric - as is always the case when Wolves and Belle Vue meet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted August 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 23 hours ago, R87 said: When? It's been garbage all season and has been for years. Haven't been since Peter Karlsson's retirement meeting and not for a league match for at least 10 years. Just because I don't particularly enjoy it, doesn't mean the racing can't be good. The problem these days is that it's pretty much unique in it's size & shape. Most riders visit it once or twice a year so never learn how to ride it. 11 hours ago, wtf said: You just can't stop yourself can you? The one place Batchelor can ride is Monmore. 11+1 and 12+1 this year. I'd be the first to agree if you said he couldn't ride Sheffield. If you call gating & locking up twice per corner in an attempt to not get passed on 'Karlsson corridor' being able to ride Monmore fair enough, I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Col said: Haven't been since Peter Karlsson's retirement meeting and not for a league match for at least 10 years. Just because I don't particularly enjoy it, doesn't mean the racing can't be good. The problem these days is that it's pretty much unique in it's size & shape. Most riders visit it once or twice a year so never learn how to ride it. If you call gating & locking up twice per corner in an attempt to not get passed on 'Karlsson corridor' being able to ride Monmore fair enough, I wouldn't. It's a very frustrating track to watch at must admit, it's a shame also that everyone is packed into one straight.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, topaz325 said: Another good day out at the NSS Belle Vue, good racing, viewing and all round one of the best experiences in British Speedway, even managed a quick chat with fellow Cumbrian Dan Bewley. Also there must have been around 20 Comets fans in attendance in the packed crowd, it just shows that Speedway can be successful in the UK given the right ingredients.... it was a p1ss poor crowd for a BHM match against the Champions elect Edited September 1, 2021 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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