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GP round 8 Togliatti Russia Saturday August 28th live on BT Sport


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56 minutes ago, Grachan said:

I would still have the top 3 in the final as the top 3 on the rostrum.

I'd give 20 points for winning the final and go on race points for all the others. that way every race still matters, but you still get the big points for winning the final.

So if you win all 7 rides you lose a point ?

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1 hour ago, Bavarian said:

I would keep the old scoring system as we had it, all race counts for the world championship, and the scoring in every race is 3-2-1-0, simple as that, easy to understand, and totally fair for every rider.

Is it fair that a rider could win the GP and drop further behind the guys he just beat?

Is it fair that a rider could win every GP and not even finish in the Top 8 at the end of the year?

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2 minutes ago, chunky said:

Is it fair that a rider could win the GP and drop further behind the guys he just beat?

Is it fair that a rider could win every GP and not even finish in the Top 8 at the end of the year?

yes it is, because he earns exactly what he scores in all of his races that night. Winning a final of a Grand Prix meeting is fine and sees him standing on top of the podium as the GP winner on the night, but it is all races (seven races, if he reaches the final) that count for the championship, and if he was not able to beat his opponents in the heat races it is only fair that he does not score the most points. 

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15 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

yes it is, because he earns exactly what he scores in all of his races that night. Winning a final of a Grand Prix meeting is fine and sees him standing on top of the podium as the GP winner on the night, but it is all races (seven races, if he reaches the final) that count for the championship, and if he was not able to beat his opponents in the heat races it is only fair that he does not score the most points. 

It's a great sport when the winner doesn't score most points...

"Oh, I won every GP, but I didn't even finish in the first three..."

This is why I have a problem with mixed formats.  Have round-robin OR knockout; combining the two leads to problems.

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The old system was better every race counted I thought the idea of the gp was to find the most consistent rider over the year  in my eyes the best way is that EVERY race matters and counts towards the final outcome. If they carry on with this system I would prefer the old one off world final no silly semi s no silly finals  just 5 rides to get it right. It would be interesting to see who could handle the pressure  one bad ride and it’s almost certainly over not like now where you can have a couple of poor rides and still win the meeting 

just my opinion of course 

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6 hours ago, racers and royals said:

Mikebv i think it was posted earlier in the season regarding doing away with the semi`s and having 4 finals D, C, B and A

D= lowest 4 scorers GP points    4 , 3 , 2 and 1

C = 2nd lowest scorers GP points  8 , 7 , 6 and 5

B= 2nd highest scorers GP points   12 , 11, 10 and 9

A - highest scorers GP points  20, 18, 16, and 14 

every race counts to get into the highest  final one can 

This was the original format which ran from 1995 - 1997.

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2 hours ago, OveFundinFan said:

If the world championship was decided by one meeting Doyle would never be world speedway champion. Only championship he would win would false start-tape breaking.

Doyle was the best rider in the series for two years, injury robbed him of the title in 2016. Fully deserved his World Title in 2017.

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I agree with most of what had been said on this topic. The GP's in their current form just aren't doing it for me anymore. After a lengthy absence I got back into Speedway in 2014 and couldn't wait for each GP to be televised. I also went to Cardiff four times, Poland three times and  twice to Prague. Great times I have to say but there is now something seriously lacking which has been evident for the past couple of years at least. 

The points scoring system doesn't do it for me and I think they should revert back to what it was - every point counts. There are several riders at the moment who are just making up the numbers and when they're out on track you can pretty much predict the result. There don't seem to be any riders in the Nikki P mould and the lack of any controversy seems to have taken the excitement away. In effect, the GPs are very much becoming "same old, same old" and in my view a total revamp is required.

As things stand, I would much rather watch British Speedway (didn't think I'd be saying that four years ago) and I really look forward to the matches on Eurosport. The stadiums etc might not be up to much etc but most matches I've seen have had some reasonably good racing with the odd bit of controversy thrown in. I think at the end of the day I probably prefer team racing as opposed to individual events.

Anyway, back to the GP's, I hope there are major changes planned for next year (different format, new stadiums etc) to get that buzz back. Fingers crossed!

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12 hours ago, Triple.H. said:

Sorry to keep harping on about it but how many times did they mention Max Fricke has already qualified for next year.

Nothing against him but FFS someone have the sense to have the GP Challenge after the final GP

Hasn't Max Fricke improved steadily over the last couple of years, I've been quite impressed with him this year, just goes about his business without any hype or fuss (except all those mentions about the GP challenge) quietly gaining the points, got a nice tidy style. Currently the top Aussie in the standings ahead of Doyley and has probably justified being selected ahead of Jack Holder by Lemo a couple of years back.

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