deputy keeper Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Endeavour said: Sent it yesterday and I won’t hold my breath. I wouldn't hold your breath. In anticipation of a first visit to Plymouth, I emailed the Gladiators well in advance to ask how to get from the city centre to the stadium by public transport. Still awaiting a reply five days after the meeting. At the Glasgow meeting on 25th July, I only had a card to make payment for a programme, but was kindly given one on the promise that I would transfer the money asap. I emailed the Tigers asking how to make payment and also offering to make a donation to the Ulrich Ostergaard collection. Again, did not even receive an acknowledgement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 hours ago, edmon said: Not even an apology to Edinburgh supporters - says it all about Birmingham promotion. At least Eastbourne let Armadale supporters into the Plymouth meeting free after cancelling the double headed fixture against the Seagulls at short notice. Yes, thats a bit poor and its coming across as a bit desperate which is more of a worry.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 I can sympathise with Edinburgh supporters who have had their planned visit to B'ham disrupted, but I sympathise far more with the B'ham fans who face losing their beloved Brummies once again..... The fixture switch is obviously essential to our existence.....but I can only think that it's another temporary stay of execution and might just be an opportunity to pay off some of the clubs accrued debts so far this season.....I totally understand and have empathy for the Masons.....they've done their best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 57 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: I can sympathise with Edinburgh supporters who have had their planned visit to B'ham disrupted, but I sympathise far more with the B'ham fans who face losing their beloved Brummies once again..... The fixture switch is obviously essential to our existence.....but I can only think that it's another temporary stay of execution and might just be an opportunity to pay off some of the clubs accrued debts so far this season.....I totally understand and have empathy for the Masons.....they've done their best! Why change it so late? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Why change it so late? They need the money ??? League match V Leicester or poxy cup match v Edinburgh ??? No brainer as far as income's concerned.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: They need the money ??? League match V Leicester or poxy cup match v Edinburgh ??? No brainer as far as income's concerned.... Yes but the crowd will be way down the next week , so they will be saying that's the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said: Yes but the crowd will be way down the next week , so they will be saying that's the end? Yes I know....but this weeks money will help pay off some of the 'losses' so far this season.... (just guessing) We will probably try and swap the next 2 fixtures, so we face Poole and Redcar ? (better away attendances) As soon as the attendance falls below a certain level, it looks like we'll struggle to stay alive.... The club website says week by week survival ? Not much to enthuse about knowing that each Heat 15 could be the last? Edited August 9, 2021 by GiveusaB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL84 Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Yes I know....but this weeks money will help pay off some of the 'losses' so far this season.... (just guessing) We will probably try and swap the next 2 fixtures, so we face Poole and Redcar ? (better away attendances) As soon as the attendance falls below a certain level, it looks like we'll struggle to stay alive.... The club website says week by week survival ? Not much to enthuse about knowing that each Heat 15 could be the last? But why should it be OK for Birmingham to change fixtures when it suits? Then the less attractive fixtures get but back don't suit them we are closing. It's makes british speedway look stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said: But why should it be OK for Birmingham to change fixtures when it suits? Then the less attractive fixtures get but back don't suit them we are closing. It's makes british speedway look stupid. Given the crowd levels earlier in the season I would think that they will desperately need cash to pay some bills.. With a fair amount of those bills belonging to people and organisations within Speedway... As for making British Speedway appear stupid? I personally dont think it does.. Many other things that happen certainly do granted, but not this.. Good, common sense, crisis management... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said: But why should it be OK for Birmingham to change fixtures when it suits? Then the less attractive fixtures get but back don't suit them we are closing. It's makes british speedway look stupid. And it wasn't already? (looking stupid...) British speedway lost its credibility some years ago...(IMO) Nobody is saying that it's acceptable....we are just sympathising with the 'management's' struggles etc.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said: But why should it be OK for Birmingham to change fixtures when it suits? Then the less attractive fixtures get but back don't suit them we are closing. It's makes british speedway look stupid. It does seem the whole league is having to pander to brums needs/wishes every team has had to operate through exceptional circumstances this last 12months,what happens if brum goes ** up and the clubs who have raced at Perry bar and picked up points, paid their riders expenses and points money only to have the result cancelled do they get any recompense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, lewy said: It does seem the whole league is having to pander to brums needs/wishes every team has had to operate through exceptional circumstances this last 12months,what happens if brum goes ** up and the clubs who have raced at Perry bar and picked up points, paid their riders expenses and points money only to have the result cancelled do they get any recompense? 'whole League' ? that's a bit off the mark.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, GiveusaB said: 'whole League' ? that's a bit off the mark.... What club in their right mind would want to ride at Birmingham, when they have stated it potentially could be the last meeting ,not ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, lewy said: What club in their right mind would want to ride at Birmingham, when they have stated it potentially could be the last meeting ,not ideal. I don't see how that affects the 'opposition' ? it wouldn't put me off going if I was an away supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, lewy said: What club in their right mind would want to ride at Birmingham, when they have stated it potentially could be the last meeting ,not ideal. Those that have already had their home fixture will be quids in without the away match to pay for if Birmingham doesnt make it to the season end.. Unfortunately those who have already been to Birmingham, but havent hosted them, will find themselves out of pocket.. However, isnt that what "The Bond" is for? To ensure other clubs (and other creditors), dont lose out financially if a track closes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, mikebv said: Those that have already had their home fixture will be quids in without the away match to pay for if Birmingham doesnt make it to the season end.. Unfortunately those who have already been to Birmingham, but havent hosted them, will find themselves out of pocket.. However, isnt that what "The Bond" is for? To ensure other clubs (and other creditors), dont lose out financially if a track closes? I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 Maybe if they had just conceded the KO cup tie to Redcar,they would still have some money left in the kitty instead of having to fork out money they didn’t have for replay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 hours ago, GiveusaB said: They need the money ??? League match V Leicester or poxy cup match v Edinburgh ??? No brainer as far as income's concerned.... Birmingham probably have a better chance of winning the KOC than reaching the play-offs, so why is it a "poxy cup match"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 41 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Maybe if they had just conceded the KO cup tie to Redcar,they would still have some money left in the kitty instead of having to fork out money they didn’t have for replay Ouch.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Birmingham probably have a better chance of winning the KOC than reaching the play-offs, so why is it a "poxy cup match"? I'd rather the club survive than win 'any' Cup match.... The reason I say it's poxy, is because it should be Redcar facing Edinburgh, not us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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