old bob at herne bay Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 Think that's why we will soon end up with Poole versus Belle Vue every week soon - let them have their season of fun. For ANYTHING to work it has to have the co operation of all promoters (can you ever imagine that happening?) ....... and probably one of the main reasons speedway is now rapidly on a downwards spiral. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Think that's why we will soon end up with Poole versus Belle Vue every week soon - let them have their season of fun. For ANYTHING to work it has to have the co operation of all promoters (can you ever imagine that happening?) ....... and probably one of the main reasons speedway is now rapidly on a downwards spiral. That is why Redcar promoter Ben Duffill is packing in because of the closed shop attitude. He has taken us from a wooden spoon candidate to a play off candidate, increased crowds & treats the attendees like adults 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Norfolk Bear said: That is why Redcar promoter Ben Duffill is packing in because of the closed shop attitude. He has taken us from a wooden spoon candidate to a play off candidate, increased crowds & treats the attendees like adults and his predecessor, and Ged Rathbone and a few others…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 hours ago, pablo133 said: The bottom line for me is that the riders are paid more money than the clubs can afford going on the crowd size, the league needs to change to standard engines and riders treat it as a hobby that pays a lower rate, I've heard about top riders in the league getting paid guaranteed £1,500 plus per meeting , this has to stop and reserves getting £50 a point, no wonder the clubs are struggling. THJ might have more info on the wage structure than me? They don’t see to be able recognise the obvious.The riders that can’t make 1 League pay just need to retire and get a proper job for less money.It’s laughable that they will work for Tesco when they can’t earn from Speedway yet just moan they can’t make a living from the sport.Give them a tenner an hour for their Time at Speedway meeting.Wages have to be in line with Crowd Levels or there will be nobody left in 10 years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: They don’t see to be able recognise the obvious.The riders that can’t make 1 League pay just need to retire and get a proper job for less money.It’s laughable that they will work for Tesco when they can’t earn from Speedway yet just moan they can’t make a living from the sport.Give them a tenner an hour for their Time at Speedway meeting.Wages have to be in line with Crowd Levels or there will be nobody left in 10 years. Promoters have to stop fantasising that their competitions mean anything and stop trying to put one of over each other, whilst spending ridiculous money collectively to do it.. Ultimately, completely and utterly wasted money.. Many fans dont take it seriously so they need to have the same attitude and work together to just put out Speedway that delivers four riders of reasonably equal ability in each race at a price point that enough fans see as value for money, on nights (or days) that the fans want to attend on.. Riders need to understand that the days of being a Speedway rider and retiring with plenty of money in the bank are long gone (in the UK), and expecting to earn a (good) 12 months salary in six months is becoming (if not already become) a pipe dream.. Whether the change required sits within a team concept or not is debateable however they certainly need to change something/lots of things before it becomes well past its fast closing tipping point.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 15 hours ago, Fromafar said: They don’t see to be able recognise the obvious.The riders that can’t make 1 League pay just need to retire and get a proper job for less money.It’s laughable that they will work for Tesco when they can’t earn from Speedway yet just moan they can’t make a living from the sport.Give them a tenner an hour for their Time at Speedway meeting.Wages have to be in line with Crowd Levels or there will be nobody left in 10 years. They don't have to provide a highly tuned delivery van to work for Tesco though, they get provided with a standardised diesel van that will drive to the moon and back, that requires a service every 10,000 miles. Hmm... there's an idea, has anybody thought of standardised equipment for Speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 47 minutes ago, iainb said: They don't have to provide a highly tuned delivery van to work for Tesco though, they get provided with a standardised diesel van that will drive to the moon and back, that requires a service every 10,000 miles. Do you still get free delivery if you live on the moon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: Do you still get free delivery if you live on the moon? Only on a Monday or Thursday... unless the driver is also driving for Sainsbury's and they have to draft a driver in from Asda 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajr Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 23 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: This is the issue Mike and its why it hurts so much.... What sport in the world penalises a successful team like speedway; Worky was built in 2018 to win their home matches and get 35 points away from home... they never in their wildest dreams expected to go to Glasgow and Newcastle and score 50 points plus... the home crowd has to pay for the away meeting and 380 on a Saturday night watching Scunthorpe then going to Scunny and getting 50 points down their meant a hit of somewhere around 6 grand... the expectation levels are far to high and the model isn't working IMHO Never a truer word said. Err never a truer word said since the last one Oh and how true is this statement; couple of years back three of us watching a GP in the Golden Lion in Maryport; just before the semi final run off someone turned the TV over to look at some racing results and there was nearly a riot in the Bar... get that back on we were watching that and there was around 45 in the Bar and I said to them "if you like it that much why don't you get to Derwent Park to watch your local team" to much like hard work; to cold; to expensive; to far away; to many excuses and they all said they loved the sport but would rather sit and watch it on TV and no one was brave enough to ask for it to be put on the TV in the bar... Nuts totally Nuts... Regards THJ Must go sorry... Do you still go to maryport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Ajr said: Do you still go to maryport? Here now... and every weekend... and any other time I'm not working... it's where I will retire to... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: it's where I will retire to... Regards THJ and when will that be and, does it mean you'll be on here even more? Hey, have you been watching 'The Lake District Farm Shop'?,,, a think it's great telly for a Saturday evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: and when will that be and, does it mean you'll be on here even more? Hey, have you been watching 'The Lake District Farm Shop'?,,, a think it's great telly for a Saturday evening. Haha no I will be on here less because I can't get a signal where I am on the harbour... av got to walk into the middle of the street out the back to take a phone call... an av seen that Farm Shop Programme and met the family who run the place as it happens as an old pal of mine used to supply all of their milk a few year back when they first kicked off but not now and they have forgot their roots a little since it's took off... Regards THJ Edited August 7, 2021 by TotallyHonestJohn Spelling 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Here now... and every weekend... and any other time I'm not working... it's where I will retire to... Regards THJ Thought you'd had already retired, as you seem to have plenty of time to write on here all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, Neila said: Thought you'd had already retired, as you seem to have plenty of time to write on here all the time No a could do more... honest... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 53 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: No a could do more... honest... Regards THJ We need a bigger server! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajr Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Be nice to catch you for a chat and a few beers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajr Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 1:31 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Here now... and every weekend... and any other time I'm not working... it's where I will retire to... Regards THJ Great place, which pub do you frequent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Ajr said: Great place, which pub do you frequent? Most of them... Thomas Henry; Top; Middle and Bottom Taps; Golden Lion; Lifeboat and if it ever opens again the Captain Nelson... Oh and the Maryport Tandoori once he fully opens again because since Covid all he has done is a carry out service... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 13 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Most of them... Thomas Henry; Top; Middle and Bottom Taps; Golden Lion; Lifeboat and if it ever opens again the Captain Nelson... Oh and the Maryport Tandoori once he fully opens again because since Covid all he has done is a carry out service... Regards THJ Sure that would be a curry out service 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berry9 Posted September 12, 2021 Report Share Posted September 12, 2021 I am not a Diamond's fan I support Redcar and I have loved the banter between the rwo sets of supporters over thee years. I would like to know who THJ is because he knows an awful lot about what's happening at Newcastle and along of his predictions come true so he is obviously a very smart guy and close confidant of the current promotion. THJ, I have couple of questions for you 1) Why did Rob Grant tear the club apart at the seams and alienate a huge section of the fan base by dispensing with the services or forcing the resignation of key figures at the club? For example 'RC' who brought so much to the show and still does at Redcar 2) Does Rob Grant's van stand anywhere else? Those burgers are bloody lovely 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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