Bagpuss Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Riss ??? My fear is, he may be 'intentionally' lowering his average.....because if we do fold, he will be more versatile to other teams ? (just a thought) We all know that 'average' fixing goes on...... I think he's just having a poor year. Been disappointing for Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountArthur Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just a few further thoughts on last night and speedway in general. It was my first visit to Perry Barr and it was a bit chaotic outside the stadium with the roadworks and everything, but I parked for free in the shopping centre as kindly recommended earlier in the thread. I had nothing to compare the crowd to as I had not been before but it looked a good turnout and it was a really friendly atmosphere. It was great to see that there were loads of families with kids there and it was a great idea to have the kids on the centre green in the interval taking penalties against the mascot and massive credit to the riders who got involved as well. It was a bit hard to see from where I was, but it may well have been Ashley Morris and James Shanes - brilliant effort, whoever it was. As pleasing was to see the turnout of the older end as well. It must be hard for some people to have the confidence to come out again but it was great to see the older diehard fans there too. I'm not sure what the capacity is at the stadium but to have had many more in there might have felt a bit uncomfortable for the older end. I went to the bar area in the interval and, although some tables were cordoned off, it seemed well populated and I loved the Hall of Fame on the wall at the top of the stairs. I update and contribute to the Speedway Researcher website, so am aware of the famous history of the club, but to see the display brought it home how important clubs like Birmingham and Newcastle are to the sport. It cost me £19.50 for my entrance fee and a programme and for that there was the 15 heat Championship meeting, a six race second half, and some 125 or 250cc races. The meeting was well presented by Ryan Guest and the announcer and the racing was pretty good. Two full strength sides, no guests, some great young British talent on display, and two of the best riders the country has seen in the past 20 years. How anyone can complain that this is not good value is beyond me. The track was a little dusty but with a big black cloud over the stadium for the duration of the meeting which threatened to empty itself on the track at any point, I could see why preparation may have been difficult and watering risky. I think we all know that speedway, like other sports, is struggling but I've been to all five meetings at Sheffield this year plus one each at Leicester, Redcar, Eastbourne and Birmingham and there is life in the sport yet. We have an older demographic and that age group have been through a scary time and, for many, it's a big step to come to a speedway meeting. We do have to attract new fans as well, but without alienating the hardcore with innovations like The Hundred at cricket, which to me is a total abomination. Finally, the demise of speedway is predicted by quite a few people on this site who clearly take an interest because they are on here every day, but seemingly don't go anymore. To those people I say - get down to your local track and support them. Put aside for a while your valid complaints about doubling up, guests etc, and enjoy the racing for what it is because speedway is still a great night out. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Riss ??? My fear is, he may be 'intentionally' lowering his average.....because if we do fold, he will be more versatile to other teams ? (just a thought) We all know that 'average' fixing goes on...... Not the first German ex-Monarch to play that game 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Riss lowering his ave, give over, his form is poor for KL as well, The only person lately to average lower is Batchelor, to get his place at Kent, bet he scores more for Sheffield now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Not looking good Saturdays meeting at Eastbourne OFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirio Barre Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) The statement from Eastbourne states a bad weather forecast and the clash with the speedway GP along with ongoing Covid restrictions, all valid points. The was a time back in the day that this would have been a nailed on away weekend trip down to the south coast, however currently I'll be staying at home watching the GP. Edited August 5, 2021 by Pirio Barre the standard typo do it every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, Pirio Barre said: The statement from Eastbourne states a bad weather forecast and the clash with the speedway GP along with ongoing Covid restrictions, all valid points. The was a time back in the day that this would have been a nailed on away weekend trip down to the south coast, however currently I'll be staying at home watching the GP. What covid restrictions of those? Are Eastbourne operating differently from the rest of the country? I was looking at the forecast on my phone app yesterday evening, it was telling me there wasn't a cloud in the sky at that current time... I looked out of the window and couldn't see any blue sky at all. What a ridiculous decision to call it off so early! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirio Barre Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, iainb said: miss quoted, confusion by me Edited August 5, 2021 by Pirio Barre confusion by me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Pirio Barre said: I'm confused now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, CountArthur said: Just a few further thoughts on last night and speedway in general. It was my first visit to Perry Barr and it was a bit chaotic outside the stadium with the roadworks and everything, but I parked for free in the shopping centre as kindly recommended earlier in the thread. I had nothing to compare the crowd to as I had not been before but it looked a good turnout and it was a really friendly atmosphere. It was great to see that there were loads of families with kids there and it was a great idea to have the kids on the centre green in the interval taking penalties against the mascot and massive credit to the riders who got involved as well. It was a bit hard to see from where I was, but it may well have been Ashley Morris and James Shanes - brilliant effort, whoever it was. As pleasing was to see the turnout of the older end as well. It must be hard for some people to have the confidence to come out again but it was great to see the older diehard fans there too. I'm not sure what the capacity is at the stadium but to have had many more in there might have felt a bit uncomfortable for the older end. I went to the bar area in the interval and, although some tables were cordoned off, it seemed well populated and I loved the Hall of Fame on the wall at the top of the stairs. I update and contribute to the Speedway Researcher website, so am aware of the famous history of the club, but to see the display brought it home how important clubs like Birmingham and Newcastle are to the sport. It cost me £19.50 for my entrance fee and a programme and for that there was the 15 heat Championship meeting, a six race second half, and some 125 or 250cc races. The meeting was well presented by Ryan Guest and the announcer and the racing was pretty good. Two full strength sides, no guests, some great young British talent on display, and two of the best riders the country has seen in the past 20 years. How anyone can complain that this is not good value is beyond me. The track was a little dusty but with a big black cloud over the stadium for the duration of the meeting which threatened to empty itself on the track at any point, I could see why preparation may have been difficult and watering risky. I think we all know that speedway, like other sports, is struggling but I've been to all five meetings at Sheffield this year plus one each at Leicester, Redcar, Eastbourne and Birmingham and there is life in the sport yet. We have an older demographic and that age group have been through a scary time and, for many, it's a big step to come to a speedway meeting. We do have to attract new fans as well, but without alienating the hardcore with innovations like The Hundred at cricket, which to me is a total abomination. Finally, the demise of speedway is predicted by quite a few people on this site who clearly take an interest because they are on here every day, but seemingly don't go anymore. To those people I say - get down to your local track and support them. Put aside for a while your valid complaints about doubling up, guests etc, and enjoy the racing for what it is because speedway is still a great night out. I've gone past worrying about the rules and the line ups. If the sun is shining, I'm happy to go. We were lucky to get away with it last night. According to the rainful radar, it was chucking it down a few miles to the west. I guess the Mason's were due a bit of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirio Barre Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, iainb said: What covid restrictions of those? Are Eastbourne operating differently from the rest of the country? I'm confused now My mistake the Eastbourne statement mentioned the lifting of covid restriction, however many people are still put off from travelling or being in a crowd because of covid. Edited August 5, 2021 by Pirio Barre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, CountArthur said: Just a few further thoughts on last night and speedway in general. It was my first visit to Perry Barr and it was a bit chaotic outside the stadium with the roadworks and everything, but I parked for free in the shopping centre as kindly recommended earlier in the thread. I had nothing to compare the crowd to as I had not been before but it looked a good turnout and it was a really friendly atmosphere. It was great to see that there were loads of families with kids there and it was a great idea to have the kids on the centre green in the interval taking penalties against the mascot and massive credit to the riders who got involved as well. It was a bit hard to see from where I was, but it may well have been Ashley Morris and James Shanes - brilliant effort, whoever it was. As pleasing was to see the turnout of the older end as well. It must be hard for some people to have the confidence to come out again but it was great to see the older diehard fans there too. I'm not sure what the capacity is at the stadium but to have had many more in there might have felt a bit uncomfortable for the older end. I went to the bar area in the interval and, although some tables were cordoned off, it seemed well populated and I loved the Hall of Fame on the wall at the top of the stairs. I update and contribute to the Speedway Researcher website, so am aware of the famous history of the club, but to see the display brought it home how important clubs like Birmingham and Newcastle are to the sport. It cost me £19.50 for my entrance fee and a programme and for that there was the 15 heat Championship meeting, a six race second half, and some 125 or 250cc races. The meeting was well presented by Ryan Guest and the announcer and the racing was pretty good. Two full strength sides, no guests, some great young British talent on display, and two of the best riders the country has seen in the past 20 years. How anyone can complain that this is not good value is beyond me. The track was a little dusty but with a big black cloud over the stadium for the duration of the meeting which threatened to empty itself on the track at any point, I could see why preparation may have been difficult and watering risky. I think we all know that speedway, like other sports, is struggling but I've been to all five meetings at Sheffield this year plus one each at Leicester, Redcar, Eastbourne and Birmingham and there is life in the sport yet. We have an older demographic and that age group have been through a scary time and, for many, it's a big step to come to a speedway meeting. We do have to attract new fans as well, but without alienating the hardcore with innovations like The Hundred at cricket, which to me is a total abomination. Finally, the demise of speedway is predicted by quite a few people on this site who clearly take an interest because they are on here every day, but seemingly don't go anymore. To those people I say - get down to your local track and support them. Put aside for a while your valid complaints about doubling up, guests etc, and enjoy the racing for what it is because speedway is still a great night out. Really good post! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, CountArthur said: Just a few further thoughts on last night and speedway in general. It was my first visit to Perry Barr and it was a bit chaotic outside the stadium with the roadworks and everything, but I parked for free in the shopping centre as kindly recommended earlier in the thread. I had nothing to compare the crowd to as I had not been before but it looked a good turnout and it was a really friendly atmosphere. It was great to see that there were loads of families with kids there and it was a great idea to have the kids on the centre green in the interval taking penalties against the mascot and massive credit to the riders who got involved as well. It was a bit hard to see from where I was, but it may well have been Ashley Morris and James Shanes - brilliant effort, whoever it was. As pleasing was to see the turnout of the older end as well. It must be hard for some people to have the confidence to come out again but it was great to see the older diehard fans there too. I'm not sure what the capacity is at the stadium but to have had many more in there might have felt a bit uncomfortable for the older end. I went to the bar area in the interval and, although some tables were cordoned off, it seemed well populated and I loved the Hall of Fame on the wall at the top of the stairs. I update and contribute to the Speedway Researcher website, so am aware of the famous history of the club, but to see the display brought it home how important clubs like Birmingham and Newcastle are to the sport. It cost me £19.50 for my entrance fee and a programme and for that there was the 15 heat Championship meeting, a six race second half, and some 125 or 250cc races. The meeting was well presented by Ryan Guest and the announcer and the racing was pretty good. Two full strength sides, no guests, some great young British talent on display, and two of the best riders the country has seen in the past 20 years. How anyone can complain that this is not good value is beyond me. The track was a little dusty but with a big black cloud over the stadium for the duration of the meeting which threatened to empty itself on the track at any point, I could see why preparation may have been difficult and watering risky. I think we all know that speedway, like other sports, is struggling but I've been to all five meetings at Sheffield this year plus one each at Leicester, Redcar, Eastbourne and Birmingham and there is life in the sport yet. We have an older demographic and that age group have been through a scary time and, for many, it's a big step to come to a speedway meeting. We do have to attract new fans as well, but without alienating the hardcore with innovations like The Hundred at cricket, which to me is a total abomination. Finally, the demise of speedway is predicted by quite a few people on this site who clearly take an interest because they are on here every day, but seemingly don't go anymore. To those people I say - get down to your local track and support them. Put aside for a while your valid complaints about doubling up, guests etc, and enjoy the racing for what it is because speedway is still a great night out. A very articulate post CountArthur and well said. I wasn't there last night but I fully agree with your final comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Pirio Barre said: My mistake the Eastbourne statement mentioned the lifting of covid restriction, however many people are still put off from travelling or being in a crowd because of covid. They may as well pull the plug on the whole season then smh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirio Barre Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, iainb said: They may as well pull the plug on the whole season then smh What are you on about? this is the reason i hardly every post on here. You honest believe that covid is no longer a issue, and the Eastbourne statement does mention the ongoing pings of isolation people are getting Edited August 5, 2021 by Pirio Barre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 hours ago, iainb said: The question is, will the "promoters" be "promoting" the next meeting in the same way they were "promoting" this meeting? Or was it just a one off and they think that's it we've now done "promotion". Does anybody know if the promotions that they did have running were successful? Track walks, meet and greets, viewing from the centre green etc. I'm sure that the track walk, meeting the riders in the pits, kids on the centre green etc was all very successful given the amount of people who took advantage of it. The pits are always open to fans before around 6.30pm and was great to see all generations getting photos and autographs with riders. The kids entertainment was a weekly thing before covid and very popular with different activities every week with riders joining in too. Last night reminded me of 2019 with a really good crowd, lots of fun, families, and some good racing going down to a last heat decider. Well done to all involved and to those that supported it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirio Barre Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 The one thing I take from reading reports about last nights meeting is that it was moved along at some pace, for me gone are the days of pre match parades, a 7:30 start means tape up at 7:30, track grading i can understand but intervals who needs them, keeping the meeting move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) They need to keep the kids engaged... If the kids want to go and nagg parents to go, there's every posibility that takeaway and meal out could be replaced by the speedway. Edited August 5, 2021 by Deano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Pirio Barre said: The one thing I take from reading reports about last nights meeting is that it was moved along at some pace, for me gone are the days of pre match parades, a 7:30 start means tape up at 7:30, track grading i can understand but intervals who needs them, keeping the meeting move It was slick. Everyone appeared to go home happy. Everyone appeared to enjoy catching up with people they hadn't stood by for a while as well. You'll have to pop over and catch up with myself and Ian and Jenny when you next go, I can't remember the last time we spoke! Years I'd guess. Edited August 5, 2021 by Deano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 5 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Riss ??? My fear is, he may be 'intentionally' lowering his average.....because if we do fold, he will be more versatile to other teams ? (just a thought) We all know that 'average' fixing goes on...... I think you will find it’s more about him reportedly using the Gerhaart engine which doesn’t seem competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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