Sidney the robin Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Marshall07 said: We're not giving you Jenkins! Is he a fulltime Mildenhall asset Marshall..? Edited August 5, 2021 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Is he a fulltime Mildenhall asset Marshall..? He's a Kent asset. But he's at Redcar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Is he a fulltime Mildenhall asset Marshall..? He’s rode for Redcar as their rising star all season Edited August 5, 2021 by allthegearbutnaeidea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: The difficult thing is Endeavour is your make up of a terrific top three plus a very progressive Thomson it does make you vulnerable down the bottom end even at home.Lawson and Greaves both are not in/out top 5 riders and they won’t be regularly banging in big scores at reserve either .Last night Poole scored 14 pts from Cook, Hume, Bickley Edinburgh scored 5 pts from Lawson, Greaves, Crang. It is a price to pay for being top heavy BUT a rider with 18 years experience should come to the tapes with a functioning bike. It’s a slap in the face to team mates that show a higher standard of professionalism. Nathan is a reserve who has been stuck in number 2 spot. Hopefully a spell at reserve will help his confidence and he can kick on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmuncie Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Just got back. All very, very easy for Pirates with the meeting all but over by heat 8. Edinburgh are a three man team and managed a bonus point by having the luck of losing the toss. Danny King chose 1 and 3 which gave Edinburgh 1 and 3 in heats 13 and 15. The problem for Poole with that is that not one heat was won off gate 4 all night. Never seen the gates so lopsided as this. Will also say the track was not as good as it has been this season, with an issue on bend one, which was quickly addressed, and something coming out the back straight of bend two which caused Pickering to Buck and rear, allowing Schlein through, then the same happening to Shclein in a lap latter returning the compliment to Pickering. Rory said after the meeting that the track only had one racing line tonight with no grip on the inside, allowing riders to go wide and not be caught. A very good crowd in on a lovely evening and a small group of Monarchs fans made themselves heard at the end of heat 15 when they got a point. Good for them but it means nothing in the scheme of things. Poole were a class above and are two riders short at the moment. For Poole. Schlein rode well. Outgated in heat 15 and impossible to do anything. Rider of the night. Guest Buckley tried hard but found it tough. Ben Basso comes into the team from now on. Can’t expect much at first. Steve Worrall rode well but had two poor rides….when off gate 4. Stefan Neilsen battled but had a t/r against him in one. Had a decent battle with Pickering in heat 14. King was good until heat 13, when off gate 4. Zach cook did his job when guesting for his brother, as did Danny Hume with one great ride to beat Richie Worrall and winning heat 8. For Edinburgh. Masters was good as expected. Rode better when it slickened off. Lawson was poor. Only beat guest Buckley and was tailed off in his other rides. Thomson was ok. Seemed fast at times. 4 paid 5 is ok. Pickering was Monarchs best rider for entertainment and clearly loves the Poole track. Lots of battles and never gave up. Good effort. Richie Worrall was good and improved when the track went slick. Knows his way around poole so no surprise he scored well. Luke Craig was completely out of his depth. Greaves did very little either, two second places and 3 lasts. Not sure I can see how Edinburgh can seriously challenge for the title with their current lineup. Certainly Leicester look stronger and so do we. Having said that Edinburgh will have their home advantage on Friday and I expect them to beat us in the return. So Pirates continue to March up the table and with Cook back hopefully next week we should be looking very good indeed. A little bit of an arrogant summary you could argue, you Edinburgh got lucky losing the toss as it gave them 1 and 3 in 13 and 15 but there is a pretty easy counter that if the Monarchs had won the toss and it was the other way round that Poole would not have had such a handy lead at that stage so all swings and roundabouts really. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: What about Kinsley or Jenkins ? that would even be a big ask for them. But after a layoff expecting Mark to be the answer was asking alot the Championship is very tough in the reserve berths. It’s actually Luke Crang.! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Thought it was a fair result. Poole had the better gates early on and surged ahead. Monarchs benefitted from Ht8 onwards. As you say 'swings and roundabouts'. Happy to settle for that result, considering we are not at full strength. Of course, we dont know how our new signing Benjamin Basso will perform. We do however know how our 'Pocket Rocket' Ben Cook will ride. Sadly, our Northern tour this week is a bit too soon for Ben. No complaints from our guests Kyle Bickley and Zach Cook. They both tried hard. Hoping for at least 7pts from our weekend 'up north'. Will be tough getting a point at Armadale though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Fromafar said: Find it hard to believe that Monarchs Promotion think that Crang is the answer to reserve slot .Luke Ruddick would be the Luke I would have went for if available. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: 100% Oh for the days when we had this young man from Cumbria called Dan Bewley at reserve. Would have been some rising star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Oh for the days when we had this young man from Cumbria called Dan Bewley at reserve. Would have been some rising star. we will probably lose him to poland in the next couple of years .even next years the way he his riding at the moment .anyway back to last night i enjoyed watching josh riding he was my rider of the night i was surprised he never got heat 15 not that it mattered you got your 5 1 for a point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: He’s rode for Redcar as their rising star all season I actually thought he was only guesting see bits and bobs of him on you tube ( ect) he certainly is improving. Edited August 5, 2021 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: It’s actually Luke Crang.! Oops remember seeing his dad ride.!!,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: The difficult thing is Endeavour is your make up of a terrific top three plus a very progressive Thomson it does make you vulnerable down the bottom end even at home.Lawson and Greaves both are not in/out top 5 riders and they won’t be regularly banging in big scores at reserve either .Last night Poole scored 14 pts from Cook, Hume, Bickley Edinburgh scored 5 pts from Lawson, Greaves, Crang. Poole’s top three is almost just as strong as Edinburgh’s. Very little between them. Edinburgh just edge that. The difference though is in second strings and reserves. Poole with Ben Cook and Danyon Hume are far superior to Crang and Greives. Ben Basso comes into the side and I feel confident it’s an upgrade on what we have been using. Certainly will do better than Lawson. Watching him on YouTube shows a young rider who looks fast and has passing ability. Will need time to settle though. Ben Cook has been badly missed but Pirates have kept on winning. 9 in a row. Such a shame he is not able to come back into the team for this weekend. Will be missed. With Poole having quite a few home meetings to run, I am expecting us to go top 3 very shortly and possibly top by playoffs as long as we avoid injuries. With our riders doing well, they are in demand for guest bookings and doubling up. Edited August 5, 2021 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, gmuncie said: A little bit of an arrogant summary you could argue, you Edinburgh got lucky losing the toss as it gave them 1 and 3 in 13 and 15 but there is a pretty easy counter that if the Monarchs had won the toss and it was the other way round that Poole would not have had such a handy lead at that stage so all swings and roundabouts really. I didn’t mean it to come across as arrogant. Given gate four failed to produce a single heat winner, winning the toss and choosing 1 and 3 was a howler. Win the toss and choose heat 15. If the other team then choose 1 and 3, you get 1 and 3 in 13 and 15. If they choose 2 and 4 you get 1 and 3 in heat 15, if it works out that gate 4 is a dead gate. Given the strength of Edinburgh’s heat leaders and the fact that they choose their best 2 in heat 15 off the best gates, 1 and 3, gives them the potential to score 13 to 5 in the final 3 heats. Luckily Schlein managed to gate in heat 13 off 2 to give a 3-3, but couldn’t repeat it in heat 15 off a slick track. Both King and Steve Worrall were nowhere off 4 in heats 13 and 15. Certainly more thought was required after winning the toss and considering the opposition it pushed the odds in the monarchs favour to salvage a point given their top end strength. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Poole’s top three is almost just as strong as Edinburgh’s. Very little between them. Edinburgh just edge that. The difference though is in second strings and reserves. Poole with Ben Cook and Danyon Hume are far superior to Crang and Greives. Ben Basso comes into the side and I feel confident it’s an upgrade on what we have been using. Certainly will do better than Lawson. Watching him on YouTube shows a young rider who looks fast and has passing ability. Will need time to settle though. Ben Cook has been badly missed but Pirates have kept on winning. 9 in a row. Such a shame he is not able to come back into the team for this weekend. Will be missed. With Poole having quite a few home meetings to run, I am expecting us to go top 3 very shortly and possibly top by playoffs as long as we avoid injuries. With our riders doing well, they are in demand for guest bookings and doubling up. For me young Basso could be a win/ win scenario for the club a rider for the future Steve . Most of you Pirate fans will only expect a 3 or 4 point return from a tough number 2 berth and as long as the potential is there he could be a decent asset.This signing is far better than getting a journeyman type rider who has no real future longterm and will more and likely struggle anyway your six other Pirates should be able to carry Ben for a period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I didn’t mean it to come across as arrogant. Given gate four failed to produce a single heat winner, winning the toss and choosing 1 and 3 was a howler. Win the toss and choose heat 15. If the other team then choose 1 and 3, you get 1 and 3 in 13 and 15. If they choose 2 and 4 you get 1 and 3 in heat 15, if it works out that gate 4 is a dead gate. Given the strength of Edinburgh’s heat leaders and the fact that they choose their best 2 in heat 15 off the best gates, 1 and 3, gives them the potential to score 13 to 5 in the final 3 heats. Luckily Schlein managed to gate in heat 13 off 2 to give a 3-3, but couldn’t repeat it in heat 15 off a slick track. Both King and Steve Worrall were nowhere off 4 in heats 13 and 15. Certainly more thought was required after winning the toss and considering the opposition it pushed the odds in the monarchs favour to salvage a point given their top end strength. Maybe gate 4 wasn't obviously bad before the start? Maybe they thought they'd have a comfortable lead to cope with the gate change later in the meeting? You can't look at a decision in hindsight and call it a howler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Oops remember seeing his dad ride.!!,, Mark Crang is his cousin!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, StevePark said: Mark Crang is his cousin!! God never knew that thanks Steve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: For me young Basso could be a win/ win scenario for the club a rider for the future Steve . Most of you Pirate fans will only expect a 3 or 4 point return from a tough number 2 berth and as long as the potential is there he could be a decent asset.This signing is far better than getting a journeyman type rider who has no real future longterm and will more and likely struggle anyway your six other Pirates should be able to carry Ben for a period. He could well end up at reserve after he gets an average if Ben Cook can continue the form he showed before his injury. Poole will always have a scoring reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: God never knew that thanks Steve. https://www.edinburghmonarchs.co.uk/news-centre/article/2021-07-31/crang-joins-the-monarchs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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