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For all those moaning about the tracks in 2021( i thought last night`s was OK) i suggest you have a think about what was announced at the Discovery press conference yesterday.

From 2022 onwards practice and QUALIFYING will be on RACE DAY  starting at 1pm local- that means for 2 hours the track will get hammered for the equivalent of at least 1 meeting i estimate. The track staff will then only have 4 hours to get the track right for the main event in the evening !!!!

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Like many others prefer the old style scoring system but been having a quick count up using the old way of scoring where every ride counts and if my maths are right its summit like this, Artem 170/178, Bart 158/169, Emil 113/131, Freddie 110/122. First figure being every race counts, so the top 4 doesn't change, but still prefer old way of scoring:rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, racers and royals said:

For all those moaning about the tracks in 2021( i thought last night`s was OK) i suggest you have a think about what was announced at the Discovery press conference yesterday.

From 2022 onwards practice and QUALIFYING will be on RACE DAY  starting at 1pm local- that means for 2 hours the track will get hammered for the equivalent of at least 1 meeting i estimate. The track staff will then only have 4 hours to get the track right for the main event in the evening !!!!

It will be interesting to see if the tracks are better, let’s be honest they couldn’t be any worse than the gate and go dross we have seen this year.

I have been to Torun for. a GP and it was really good, last nights was very poor in comparison.

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1 hour ago, racers and royals said:

For all those moaning about the tracks in 2021( i thought last night`s was OK) i suggest you have a think about what was announced at the Discovery press conference yesterday.

From 2022 onwards practice and QUALIFYING will be on RACE DAY  starting at 1pm local- that means for 2 hours the track will get hammered for the equivalent of at least 1 meeting i estimate. The track staff will then only have 4 hours to get the track right for the main event in the evening !!!!

As tracks haven’t started working until 2/3rds into a meeting, this could be a very good thing.

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Looks like it's all over, can't see Zmarzlik making up 9 points on Laguta for 1st.  Lindgren making up 9 points on Sayfutdinov for 3rd or Madsen making up 16 points on Woffinden for 6th.

Didn't think the racing was bad last night, watched 10 heats before going to the pub and the rest when I got back, but not as good as some Ekstraliga meetings I've watched from Torun this year.  Can't understand why the FIM people take over track preparation/grading/watering, just let the guys that do it week in week out for the league meetings look after it, they clearly know it better.

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26 minutes ago, Col said:

Looks like it's all over, can't see Zmarzlik making up 9 points on Laguta for 1st.  Lindgren making up 9 points on Sayfutdinov for 3rd or Madsen making up 16 points on Woffinden for 6th.

Didn't think the racing was bad last night, watched 10 heats before going to the pub and the rest when I got back, but not as good as some Ekstraliga meetings I've watched from Torun this year.  Can't understand why the FIM people take over track preparation/grading/watering, just let the guys that do it week in week out for the league meetings look after it, they clearly know it better.

Spot on on the track prep. I’ve not yet had time to go through all the changes that will  restore all the glory of the sport, but track prep will be a major disaster me thinks.

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35 minutes ago, Col said:

Looks like it's all over, can't see Zmarzlik making up 9 points on Laguta for 1st.  Lindgren making up 9 points on Sayfutdinov for 3rd or Madsen making up 16 points on Woffinden for 6th.

 

Forget the old scoring system, even a fifteen point max for Laguta will mean nothing as long as Zmarzlik also makes the semis, even with only seven or eight points.

It now depends on just one race for Laguta, his semi-final. That is the only race that is really important for him. If Laguta finishes first, second, or even only third in his semi-final he is World Champion, but if he fails in this race, Zmarzlik has the chance to make up the nine point deficit with a win in the final.  

The first twenty heats tonight are only a warm up for the world title contenders, since neither of them will have any problems to qualify for the semi-finals (only eight or nine points needed to do that). They are well adviced not to take any unneccessary risks in the qualifying heats. For them this meeting only really starts with heat 21.  

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10 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

Forget the old scoring system, even a fifteen point max for Laguta will mean nothing as long as Zmarzlik also makes the semis, even with only seven or eight points.

It now depends on just one race for Laguta, his semi-final. That is the only race that is really important for him. If Laguta finishes first, second, or even only third in his semi-final he is World Champion, but if he fails in this race, Zmarzlik has the chance to make up the nine point deficit with a win in the final.  

The first twenty heats tonight are only a warm up for the world title contenders, since neither of them will have any problems to qualify for the semi-finals (only eight or nine points needed to do that). They are well adviced not to take any unneccessary risks in the qualifying heats. For them this meeting only really starts with heat 21.  

Laguta can still be classified in 6th place by finishing 3rd in a semi final, depends on how many he scored in comparison to the other 3rd placed semi finalist. A win by Zmarzlik would then put them level.

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17 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

Forget the old scoring system, even a fifteen point max for Laguta will mean nothing as long as Zmarzlik also makes the semis, even with only seven or eight points.

It now depends on just one race for Laguta, his semi-final. That is the only race that is really important for him. If Laguta finishes first, second, or even only third in his semi-final he is World Champion, but if he fails in this race, Zmarzlik has the chance to make up the nine point deficit with a win in the final.  

The first twenty heats tonight are only a warm up for the world title contenders, since neither of them will have any problems to qualify for the semi-finals (only eight or nine points needed to do that). They are well adviced not to take any unneccessary risks in the qualifying heats. For them this meeting only really starts with heat 21.  

Laguta under 13 (20 heats) at Evens with BET 365 looks a sporting bet to me.

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21 minutes ago, Bavarian said:

Forget the old scoring system, even a fifteen point max for Laguta will mean nothing as long as Zmarzlik also makes the semis, even with only seven or eight points.

It now depends on just one race for Laguta, his semi-final. That is the only race that is really important for him. If Laguta finishes first, second, or even only third in his semi-final he is World Champion, but if he fails in this race, Zmarzlik has the chance to make up the nine point deficit with a win in the final.  

The first twenty heats tonight are only a warm up for the world title contenders, since neither of them will have any problems to qualify for the semi-finals (only eight or nine points needed to do that). They are well adviced not to take any unneccessary risks in the qualifying heats. For them this meeting only really starts with heat 21.  

spot on no othe race  means a thing  to laguta 

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16 hours ago, nw42 said:

Definitely,  I would be interested in what the respective positions would be if we were still using that system this season, might well be similar but I'd still prefer it.

Going into tonight, old way AL 169, BZ 158, ES 115, FL 103. MJ 102, TW 107.

AL has done 69 races and won 45 of them, BZ 67 races 36 wins, then the nearest is woofy on 20 race wins. Biggest gainFL 19pts ES 16pts. 

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