Sidney the robin Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, BobC said: Before the meeting, I did think we should win this one. However, an excellent choice of guests for Berwick, while Pooles failed, swung this meeting around. Im more annoyed that this one got away with poor management. We had the firepower to win, but Havvy bungled it. Its not the first time Hume has not been given the extra rides his form on the night deserves. However, we still got an away point. Only at Glasgow have we not scored anything away from home. Winning at home and getting at least a point for our aways will keep us at the right end of the table. I certainly dont expect Poole to win every meeting. Just disappointed at the way we lost this one. I hope the win gives you Bandits fans something to be pleased about. Bob were you happy with the point though generally? or are you a bit deflated.! A pattern that i have noticed Bob is that Danyon generally starts slowly but rapidly improves as the meeting develops maybe he takes a while to get his set up right..? If he could get his heat 2 sorted out he would be scoring even heavier still more to come from him though.He has been superb so far, even more encouraging is he doing it without having the NL to fall back on i really thought a lack of lap time might hinder him but it hasn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 I’m likely being being thick but how was King allowed to come into ht14? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 minute ago, JanAndersen said: I’m likely being being thick but how was King allowed to come into ht14? Because Poole were 6 points behind and for about the last 3 to 4 years you've been allowed to use a tactical when 6 points down in Heats 5 to 14 (not including heat 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: Case in point. There’s a fine line between a confident mentality and an arrogant one. Belle Vue for me are the biggest club in speedway the history of there club is there to be seen. 1972 Belle Vue——- 1983.Cradley Heath are the greatest two club sides i have ever seen.Poole yes have been the latest power house and they are the team everyone wants to beat.But don’t forget it has never always been like that they did have some really average sides in the 1970’s. Edited August 8, 2021 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fozzie4388 said: Because Poole were 6 points behind and for about the last 3 to 4 years you've been allowed to use a tactical when 6 points down in Heats 5 to 14 (not including heat 8) I had in my head it was eight. Havvy maybe not so daft after all. Edited August 8, 2021 by JanAndersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: So on we go to Newcastle and fingers crossed that today’s racing goes ahead. The weather has been dreadful to be honest. Looking forward to getting back to the warmth of the south. The sooner we get our 1-7 the better 3 points from 2 guests isn’t good enough. Entitlement? Poole are the biggest club in British speedway for a reason. Even now when we are in the Championship we are still the biggest club. No one has got near us in the last 20 years and that’s why clubs get excited when Poole come to town and when they manage to beat us. Pirates rarely have bad teams and in sport that’s the way it works. There’s no entitlement. We have to earn our wins like any other team. The difference is the club is run to win trophies and titles, not make up the numbers and hope for the occasional success. We should have won last night and we should win today if it’s on. That’s club mentality. No being second best. Steve, I don't think the weather is any better down here atm!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Bob were you happy with the point though generally? or are you a bit deflated.! A pattern that i have noticed Bob is that Danyon generally starts slowly but rapidly improves as the meeting develops maybe he takes a while to get his set up right..? If he could get his heat 2 sorted out he would be scoring even heavier still more to come from him though.He has been superb so far, even more encouraging is he doing it without having the NL to fall back on i really thought a lack of lap time might hinder him but it hasn’t. A point is better than nothing, but still feel its points dropped rather than a point gained. Ive noticed that with Danyon. We all said the same thing about no NL to fall back on. Good to see he getting a booking or two with Sheffield. He is very popular with the fans. Always happy and smiling, ready to chat and gives a good interview when on the mic. Already looking at next season, I genuinely hope hes is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: I had in my head it was eight. Havvy maybe not so daft after all. Yes I thought it was 8 too until Leicester used a TS when 6 down at Poole a week or so ago! Edited August 8, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 Just now, lisa-colette said: Yes I thought it was 8 too until Leicester used a TS when 6 done at Poole a week or so ago! I get why it’s in place but six points seems too tight to allow tactical rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JanAndersen said: I get why it’s in place but six points seems too tight to allow tactical rides. I guess but at worse/best depends which team you are on/supporting it would go down to 2 points. You just have to make sure you hit back in the next heat! When it was double points and used as soon as 10 down, at most it would go down to is 3. So not too much difference! Edit- home teams shouldn't be allowed to use a TS though! Edited August 8, 2021 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, BobC said: A point is better than nothing, but still feel its points dropped rather than a point gained. Ive noticed that with Danyon. We all said the same thing about no NL to fall back on. Good to see he getting a booking or two with Sheffield. He is very popular with the fans. Always happy and smiling, ready to chat and gives a good interview when on the mic. Already looking at next season, I genuinely hope hes is back. I believe in time Bob he will be able to cope as a top five Championship rider the confidence Poole have shown in him has really rubbed off.For me Hume, Flint, Palin, Thompson x2 ( like both) Bowtell, have shown they have a longterm career at Championship level minimum.Touch wood all of them will be fully fledged top flight riders in time Flint, Palin, Hume have already shown they are on the pace at that level 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 I do think this was a great win for the depleted Berwick side they really dug in and it is nice that Kasper is really flourishing now.Every visit to Berwick is very difficult for any visiting team the track is pretty unique very fast reminds me a little of the County Ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: So on we go to Newcastle and fingers crossed that today’s racing goes ahead. The weather has been dreadful to be honest. Looking forward to getting back to the warmth of the south. The sooner we get our 1-7 the better 3 points from 2 guests isn’t good enough. Entitlement? Poole are the biggest club in British speedway for a reason. Even now when we are in the Championship we are still the biggest club. No one has got near us in the last 20 years and that’s why clubs get excited when Poole come to town and when they manage to beat us. Pirates rarely have bad teams and in sport that’s the way it works. There’s no entitlement. We have to earn our wins like any other team. The difference is the club is run to win trophies and titles, not make up the numbers and hope for the occasional success. We should have won last night and we should win today if it’s on. That’s club mentality. No being second best. That big dropped down a league because of poor crowds, as been quoted before...entitled & deluded glug glug glug. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Trackrat said: That big dropped down a league because of poor crowds, as been quoted before...entitled & deluded glug glug glug. And that is just you! Crowds may have been worse in the top league as some seasons we could play Swindon 4 times at home during the season. Only die hard fans would watch the same away team come that many times! Crowds have been good since restrictions lifted, probably because Poole are doing well and different teams every week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: So on we go to Newcastle and fingers crossed that today’s racing goes ahead. The weather has been dreadful to be honest. Looking forward to getting back to the warmth of the south. The sooner we get our 1-7 the better 3 points from 2 guests isn’t good enough. Entitlement? Poole are the biggest club in British speedway for a reason. Even now when we are in the Championship we are still the biggest club. No one has got near us in the last 20 years and that’s why clubs get excited when Poole come to town and when they manage to beat us. Pirates rarely have bad teams and in sport that’s the way it works. There’s no entitlement. We e to earn our wins like any other team. The difference is the club is run to win trophies and titles, not make up the numbers and hope for the occasional success. We should have won last night and we should win today if it’s on. That’s club mentality. No being second best. Hey Steve, why do I support Poole when I live in Long Eaton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 13 hours ago, lisa-colette said: But even Berwick chose 1 and 3 when we went for H15. Is that cos they would have more 2 and 4 near the end of the meeting esp H13? Let's sort this out. Poole won the toss, and as a result enjoyed 8 starts out of gate 4 against Berwick's seven. What disadvantage? They lost by not utilising Hume (who had been excellent at Berwick 7 days previously) enough -- he should have been in both Heats 12 and 14 -- and perhaps might still have won if Danny King's tactical had been in white, not yellow. None of which detracts from a very good night out, with (almost) all the travelling Pirate fans both gracious and cheerful in defeat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Let's sort this out. Poole won the toss, and as a result enjoyed 8 starts out of gate 4 against Berwick's seven. What disadvantage? They lost by not utilising Hume (who had been excellent at Berwick 7 days previously) enough -- he should have been in both Heats 12 and 14 -- and perhaps might still have won if Danny King's tactical had been in white, not yellow. None of which detracts from a very good night out, with (almost) all the travelling Pirate fans both gracious and cheerful in defeat. You will get used to the Poole fans........always a reason why they get beat but when they win its simply because they were the better side.... Blaming gate 4 when they had it more times is laughable but then again you are dealing with Shovlar..........and no disrespect to Berwick but the clown thinks Poole can beat Ipswich and they cant even beat Berwick lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gavan said: You will get used to the Poole fans........always a reason why they get beat but when they win its simply because they were the better side.... Blaming gate 4 when they had it more times is laughable but then again you are dealing with Shovlar..........and no disrespect to Berwick but the clown thinks Poole can beat Ipswich and they cant even beat Berwick lol you know as well i do we lost last night because of a crap team manager . anyway glad to hear from you again .onward upwards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbw Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 Hang on a mo, hang on....... The way the announcer and all the Berwick fans had heightened celebrations with the win just goes to prove wot a class team Poole are. Fair play to Berwick, a deserved celebration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted August 8, 2021 Report Share Posted August 8, 2021 Shovlar and co showing themselves up saying they should of won. Why is Havelock your manager surely there is someone else out there better for the job? still think Poole will be there or there abouts , i would imagine the new Dane would be good for about 5 pts a meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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