Baldyman Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 When I go to motogp or even British superbikes,,, the merch is of a very high quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Baldyman said: When I go to motogp or even British superbikes,,, the merch is of a very high quality Maybe British Speedway should have subbed out their whole merchandising operation... https://motorsport-merchandise.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, iainb said: Maybe British Speedway should have subbed out their whole merchandising operation... https://motorsport-merchandise.com/ Iain.......As a matter of interest what sort of quantities would you order for each team of this quality merchandise you are striving for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, iainb said: Maybe British Speedway should have subbed out their whole merchandising operation... https://motorsport-merchandise.com/ A lot of the stuff on this page is from exactly the same catalogue as we get it from......Except ours have Leicester Lions on it rathe than " Red Bull" and is normally considerably cheaper,,,which is weird cos we order in 5's and 10's and they order in 1000's so you would think there stuff would be so much cheaper.....funny world 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 58 minutes ago, JIROUT said: Iain.......As a matter of interest what sort of quantities would you order for each team of this quality merchandise you are striving for I don't know, I couldn't say off the top of my head, not without knowing supplier costs etc and carrying out some market research 50 minutes ago, JIROUT said: A lot of the stuff on this page is from exactly the same catalogue as we get it from......Except ours have Leicester Lions on it rathe than " Red Bull" and is normally considerably cheaper,,,which is weird cos we order in 5's and 10's and they order in 1000's so you would think there stuff would be so much cheaper.....funny world They charge what people will pay... probably why they've got a swanky website and some very high profile clients Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Agree that merchandise is to say the least overpriced. I always buy a programme is this is part of the the pricing structure to ensure in promoters view the viability of the club financially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, iainb said: I don't know, I couldn't say off the top of my head, not without knowing supplier costs etc and carrying out some market research They charge what people will pay... probably why they've got a swanky website and some very high profile clients Iain.....Wake up mate.....This is a website selling different riders merchandise for a cut themselves....They do not produce the merch themselves ...they sell it for a cut.....I am open to any riders with merchandise to sell it on our website for a cut no problems...I shall wait for the phone to ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JIROUT said: Iain.....Wake up mate.....This is a website selling different riders merchandise for a cut themselves....They do not produce the merch themselves ...they sell it for a cut.....I am open to any riders with merchandise to sell it on our website for a cut no problems...I shall wait for the phone to ring With respect, may I just remind you that this is the British Speedway Forum and not the Jaybea Designs forum, this thread is a Club Merchandise thread and not a Jaybea Designs thread. If you want to start a Jaybea Designs thread, go for it, it may be a good way to get some feedback on what is or isn't liked. I think it's fair to say that you do have a vested interest where as I'm looking at it from the perspective of the whole sport or clubs and what would be in it's best interests. Now you operate the merchandise for 7 clubs as I understand it, because for whatever reason they have decided that it's best for them, which leave 11 clubs either doing their own thing, not bothering at all or subbing it out to somebody else. Now whether I like or dislike the quality and/or design of your stuff is irrelevant, I do like some things I don't like others, ultimately sales will decide what's good and what's not. The BSPL, despite the recent name change is an Association, in some areas it works as a collective, most notably in the selling of its media rights but also in other areas like the holding of the plum "shared events" So coming on here asking me specific questions like what quantities of stuff I'd order is not the point, I mean how many Valentin Grobauer key rings did you order? Nobody is going to sub their merchandising out to me... who knows they may even sub the whole operation out to you. Do you think that British Speedway as a whole is maximising it's promotional merchandising operation? If your answer is yes, fair enough, I don't that's all. Edited August 16, 2021 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, iainb said: With respect, may I just remind you that this is the British Speedway Forum and not the Jaybea Designs forum, this thread is a Club Merchandise thread and not a Jaybea Designs thread. If you want to start a Jaybea Designs thread, go for it, it may be a good way to get some feedback on what is or isn't liked. I think it's fair to say that you do have a vested interest where as I'm looking at it from the perspective of the whole sport or clubs and what would be in it's best interests. Now you operate the merchandise for 7 clubs as I understand it, because for whatever reason they have decided that it's best for them, which leave 11 clubs either doing their own thing, not bothering at all or subbing it out to somebody else. Now whether I like or dislike the quality and/or design of your stuff is irrelevant, I do like some things I don't like others, ultimately sales will decide what's good and what's not. The BSPL, despite the recent name change is an Association, in some areas it works as a collective, most notably in the selling of its media rights but also in other areas like the holding of the plum "shared events" So coming on here asking me specific questions like what quantities of stuff I'd order is not the point, I mean how many Valentin Grobauer key rings did you order? Nobody is going to sub their merchandising out to me... who knows they may even sub the whole operation out to you. Do you think that British Speedway as a whole is maximising it's promotional merchandising operation? If your answer is yes, fair enough, I don't that's all. With all due respect mate....I have not made this thread about my merchandise......In the majority of circumstances i have answered your questions about the champs merchandise and why some clubs sub it out to other companies.....Being someone involved in that side of thing i thought you would like to know the reasoning behind it.....Merchandise is like anything....you cannot please all the people all the time.....but the difference is we try our hardest to cater for all and i think we do that pretty well to be honest.....If the league did go to big companies for merchandise our business would be over i accept that.....But they will never find anyone who loves the sport like we do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 4 hours ago, JIROUT said: A lot of the stuff on this page is from exactly the same catalogue as we get it from......Except ours have Leicester Lions on it rathe than " Red Bull" and is normally considerably cheaper,,,which is weird cos we order in 5's and 10's and they order in 1000's so you would think there stuff would be so much cheaper.....funny world Surely that Clothing is bespoke, have never seen it in a Pencarrie catalogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lord Skid said: Surely that Clothing is bespoke, have never seen it in a Pencarrie catalogue. Afraid not......a lot more than pencarrie these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Jumping in late re: pricey Guns 'n' Roses t-shirt at £40, I can easily believe it. In 2019 I saw KISS at Manchester Arena (brilliant, mate) and merch prices were out of this world, i.e. very high. T's were in the region of £30 - £40, 'sweats about £60, hoodies about £80, etc, etc, ever upwards. Now some KISS fans are known for literally filling their houses with KISS stuff, no-one is forced to buy of course and the clothing was / is quality 'Fruit Of The Loom' stuff, but I saw few fans wearing or carrying new merch, one reason is the ''new T' design wasn't the greatest, IMO, and also likely the pricing. Myself, it could be said I own some KISS stuff (most was presents), but I didn't buy a thing at the show.... Edited August 17, 2021 by martinmauger added info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, martinmauger said: Jumping in late re: pricey Guns 'n' Roses t-shirt at £40, I can easily believe it. In 2019 I saw KISS at Manchester Arena (brilliant, mate) and merch prices were out of this world, i.e. very high. T's were in the region of £30 - £40, 'sweats about £60, hoodies about £80, etc, etc, ever upwards. Now some KISS fans are known for literally filling their houses with KISS stuff, no-one is forced to buy of course and the clothing was / is quality 'Fruit Of The Loom' stuff, but I saw few fans wearing or carrying new merch, one reason is the ''new T' design wasn't the greatest, IMO, and also likely the pricing. Myself, it could be said I own some KISS stuff (most was presents), but I didn't buy a thing at the show.... Fortunately I waited until there was a 20% sitewide promotion on so managed to pick it up for around £30. Seems like a decent shirt too. And don't knock Fruit of The Loom, I'm still wearing some FOTL boxer shorts that I picked up in the states around 15 years ago lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 A mate of mine bought a Jean Alesi baseball cap at Silverstone for £45 about 30 or so years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, mikebv said: A mate of mine bought a Jean Alesi baseball cap at Silverstone for £45 about 30 or so years ago... Had he been on the Jean Alesi juice??!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardey Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Where can you buy any Team GB merchandise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 hours ago, iainb said: Fortunately I waited until there was a 20% sitewide promotion on so managed to pick it up for around £30. Seems like a decent shirt too. And don't knock Fruit of The Loom, I'm still wearing some FOTL boxer shorts that I picked up in the states around 15 years ago lol. I speak as I find and if Fruit Of the Loom it isn't the best though I thought it ok, then it made the stuff even less good value, but of some tour merch I've seen FOTL stuff is pretty good. Tour progs / tourbooks were £25ish at the venue, later decided I wanted one afterall and picked up a mint example soon afterwards for £15 inc P&P off a well-known selling site.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Pyszny Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Went to Scunthorpe-Redcar last Friday - first speedway meeting since 2017 - and was a little surprised to discover there is no longer a track shop at Normanby Road. I was told, by a regular, Scunthorpe couldn't find anybody willing to take on the concession. With respect to the likes of the late Dave Rattenbury, it's always bemused me why speedway clubs (unlike the majority in other team sports) don't source and sell their own merchandise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Wardey said: Where can you buy any Team GB merchandise? https://shop.gbspeedwayteam.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Piotr Pyszny said: With respect to the likes of the late Dave Rattenbury, it's always bemused me why speedway clubs (unlike the majority in other team sports) don't source and sell their own merchandise. Was he "Flash"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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