The Third Man Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, King Jamie said: I'm not sure I agree with the highlighted part of your post. The vast majority of Kye's good work at sunny Armadale is done on the inside. Almost all his outside dabbles have seen him either land in the fence or lose position. Even when trying to overcome Connor Bailey in heat 9 on Friday, he almost took a trip to the track shop before finishing last. Heat 12 on Friday was his first real successful venture round the boards and long may that continue First time i have seen him, and second at Glasgow, wish he could follow his mate Josh to Sheffield, if we can make a double switch and get rid of Batchelor and Wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, Endeavour said: Think promotion built this team looking for every rider to improve average. Ricky’s last season was indifferent at Monarchs, hampered by a niggling shoulder problem. Glasgow were expecting him to be rider he was in 2018. Justin to a lesser extent. Monarchs have 3 reserve standard riders in team and Nathan is stuck at number 2. If William sorted out his equipment that would help. I thought Willie ran out of puff in some of the heats he was being hunted down, 7 rides in the sun maybe not his thing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, MD said: I thought Willie ran out of puff in some of the heats he was being hunted down, 7 rides in the sun maybe not his thing! Bike in shock and under sedation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nassa10 Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 18 hours ago, Fromafar said: Interesting footnote,Announcer said it was Top4 play offs,but Alan Dick corrected him saying it was Top6.Announcer conceded that Dick was the expert.So looks like Top6. I was told top 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Nassa10 said: I was told top 4 Top 6. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jamie Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 hours ago, The Third Man said: First time i have seen him, and second at Glasgow, wish he could follow his mate Josh to Sheffield, if we can make a double switch and get rid of Batchelor and Wright "Sheffield Monarchs". Yep. Definitely much more pleasant sounding than the current tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, King Jamie said: "Sheffield Monarchs". Yep. Definitely much more pleasant sounding than the current tag. Not into Edinburgh Tigers then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) On 7/24/2021 at 6:49 PM, MD said: Jye Etheridge guesting for Ostergaard tomorrow. Oh f**k! TBH your Team Manager (aka "Calamity Clown" ) lost you this match. Instead of trusting messrs Cook, Jensen, Nicol & Wells to cover Ostergaard's programmed rides, in comes a highly dubious choice of guest which spectacularly backfires! Hard to imagine Stewart Dickson would have made such a blunder in a derby match when he was at the helm Edited July 26, 2021 by cyclone 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, cyclone said: TBH your Team Manager (aka "Calamity Clown" ) lost to you this match. Instead of trusting messrs Cook, Jensen, Nicol & Wells to cover Ostergaard's programmed rides, in comes a highly dubious choice of guest which spectacularly backfires! Hard to imagine Stewart Dickson would have made such a blunder in a derby match when he was at the helm Looks a good shout. In choosing a guest we also didnt need to look for like for like averages but those who ride Ashfield well even if not 7 pointers such as Paul Starke or Tom Brennan who have a bit of fight about them. However they may well have been tried and declined. Going with r/r would have given Cook an extra ride, likely equalled Jye's points and a point from any of the other two rides (im excluding ht13) would have avoided defeat. Easy for me to say though! The plus about all this is it has exposed weaknesses that have been present so far and dont appear to be improving which will prompt changes IMO. Not so sure about Dickson, the self proclaimed tactical genius didnt always get it right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) With ulle potentially out for a while could triple change vissing/ Bach, auty and a 3 pointer fit? Probably weakens the reserve situation slightly but give us a second hear leader at least? Auty never done much at ashfield from memory but there's a dearth of available riders. Bachelor got a new average yet? Edited July 26, 2021 by Jaizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eide67 Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, cyclone said: TBH your Team Manager (aka "Calamity Clown" ) lost you this match. Instead of trusting messrs Cook, Jensen, Nicol & Wells to cover Ostergaard's programmed rides, in comes a highly dubious choice of guest which spectacularly backfires! Hard to imagine Stewart Dickson would have made such a blunder in a derby match when he was at the helm Easy to say with the benefit of hindsight but it's quite conceivable that R/R would have provided exactly the same scores in each of the relevant heats (e.g. Nicol in ht4, Wells in ht7, Cook in ht11, Jensen in ht13). Also it might have been expected that a motivated Etheridge (against a team that he reportedly hates) would score to his average. And there's the risk in using R/R for a heat leader, that another of your riders gets injured during the match. So not such a cut and dried bad decision imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, cyclone said: TBH your Team Manager (aka "Calamity Clown" ) lost you this match. Instead of trusting messrs Cook, Jensen, Nicol & Wells to cover Ostergaard's programmed rides, in comes a highly dubious choice of guest which spectacularly backfires! Hard to imagine Stewart Dickson would have made such a blunder in a derby match when he was at the helm Can't disagree with any of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quasartech Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, The Third Man said: First time i have seen him, and second at Glasgow, wish he could follow his mate Josh to Sheffield, if we can make a double switch and get rid of Batchelor and Wright You take ages to realise Josh's potential, now you want all our riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, quasartech said: You take ages to realise Josh's potential, now you want all our riders. Yes its like busses, you wait for ages then two come at the same time, dont worry we will still let them ride for you You have had a few from us in the past, so its only fair to repay us Edited July 26, 2021 by The Third Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, cyclone said: TBH your Team Manager (aka "Calamity Clown" ) lost you this match. Instead of trusting messrs Cook, Jensen, Nicol & Wells to cover Ostergaard's programmed rides, in comes a highly dubious choice of guest which spectacularly backfires! Hard to imagine Stewart Dickson would have made such a blunder in a derby match when he was at the helm 1 hour ago, eide67 said: Easy to say with the benefit of hindsight but it's quite conceivable that R/R would have provided exactly the same scores in each of the relevant heats (e.g. Nicol in ht4, Wells in ht7, Cook in ht11, Jensen in ht13). Also it might have been expected that a motivated Etheridge (against a team that he reportedly hates) would score to his average. And there's the risk in using R/R for a heat leader, that another of your riders gets injured during the match. So not such a cut and dried bad decision imo. Maybe that's when hindsight could be classed as wisdom. Could be a make or break decision for a manager and, I agree with 'cyclone'. That's just about a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gazc said: Can't disagree with any of that. What would you have said if we went with r/r and Jensen was injured in his first ride except for Cook the other 4 could only beat their 6 and 7 Do you no how many riders were asked guest. Who picked the guest Edited July 26, 2021 by MANSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, MANSE said: What would you have said if we went with r/r and Jensen was injured in his first ride except for Cook the other 4 could only beat their 6 and 7 Do you no how many riders were asked guest. Who picked the guest It is all conjecture what if this happened or that happened my own personal opinion is R/R was the better option ,you have your opinion which is your prerogative. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MANSE said: What would you have said if we went with r/r and Jensen was injured in his first ride except for Cook the other 4 could only beat their 6 and 7 Do you no how many riders were asked guest. Who picked the guest If the scenario you described had happened on Sunday only Sedgmen & Bailey could have taken Jensen's rides under irr and you will still have Etheridge there! Under r/r only, you could rejig to have r/r @ no2, with Nicol/Wells/Jensen occupying 3 - 5, this would mean Cook appearing in ht 8 and barring a disaster a guaranteed 3 pts. BTW if Jensen had also been crocked, the reserves could still cover under irr. Re who picked the guest, do you know and would your team manager not have been consulted in such a decision? Edited July 26, 2021 by cyclone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 19 hours ago, cyclone said: TBH your Team Manager (aka "Calamity Clown" ) lost you this match. Instead of trusting messrs Cook, Jensen, Nicol & Wells to cover Ostergaard's programmed rides, in comes a highly dubious choice of guest which spectacularly backfires! Hard to imagine Stewart Dickson would have made such a blunder in a derby match when he was at the helm Most of us were scratching our heads at that decision . No harm to Etheridge, but he hasn't scored well round Ashfield in the past , and hadn't had a great start to the season at Berwick either. But we move on now and hopefully we get Ostergaard back as soon as humanly possible . We'll probably have to go down the guest road for this weekend , but at least we have a bit more time to get the choice right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 If Ulrich is long term injury maybe Vissing might be a good shout if available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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