semion Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, mikebv said: They will be more likely working out which riders they can get in to replace their own to improve their teams.. With the top league teams then realising that they already have them.. Never mind the riders think of the queue there will be to get Mainman Rogers onboard. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 hours ago, ch958 said: absolutely this - there is no other way Speedway Plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 just wondering - did they do any customer research before they moved the start time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, ch958 said: just wondering - did they do any customer research before they moved the start time? The reason for the 4pm start time was because, originally, the Gems were going to be part of Double Headers. They thought 6.30pm was too late for Double Headers. When they dropped the Gems, they just kept the 4pm start time. When Glasgow are here (15 Aug) it's a 6.30pm start (NUFC at home same day), so it will be interesting to see if that effects the gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 Ben Barker has signed for King's Lynn in the SGB Premiership. He and Kasper Andersen replace Cameron Heeps and Ricky Wells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, StevePark said: The reason for the 4pm start time was because, originally, the Gems were going to be part of Double Headers. They thought 6.30pm was too late for Double Headers. When they dropped the Gems, they just kept the 4pm start time. When Glasgow are here (15 Aug) it's a 6.30pm start (NUFC at home same day), so it will be interesting to see if that effects the gate. The other thing is ARC who own the stadium now prefer the earlier starts and want to retain them to give their staff an earlier finish... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 Surely not an earlier finish with a double-header on Sunday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 Due to being at work I have not heard any radio or seen any T.V News today( so could of been announced) but are they going to be notified to make announcements regarding the plea put out for fans to turn up on Sunday .. One of the reasons put forward for fans not turning up was because older fans didn’t use internet so they couldn’t book online and so far the only places I have seen the announcement is on FB, BSF, Twitter and Speedway GB site.. All on the internet so a lot of the older fans might still not see the trouble Newcastle are in 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Surely not an earlier finish with a double-header on Sunday? Poole will be up first at 16:00 hours then Plymouth and with the best will in the world it won't finish before 8 I wouldn't of thought Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 51 minutes ago, StevePark said: Ben Barker has signed for King's Lynn in the SGB Premiership. He and Kasper Andersen replace Cameron Heeps and Ricky Wells. At least he'll still have one income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Bear_Bottom said: At least he'll still have one income. Only classed as income if you actually get paid…hope for him kings lynn pay and on time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Poole will be up first at 16:00 hours then Plymouth and with the best will in the world it won't finish before 8 I wouldn't of thought Regards THJ When Berwick have had double headers this season with Championship & NDL fixtures they have managed to complete them in 3hrs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Normski said: When Berwick have had double headers this season with Championship & NDL fixtures they have managed to complete them in 3hrs. Aye you would hope but ave been to some real drawn out double ups but saying that after our previous brief foray into Championship & NDL fixtures against Edinburgh that was rattled through quite quickly to be fair... obviously depends on any injuries and the referee... Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Aye you would hope but ave been to some real drawn out double ups but saying that after our previous brief foray into Championship & NDL fixtures against Edinburgh that was rattled through quite quickly to be fair... obviously depends on any injuries and the referee... Regards THJ Don’t know about you but even though I know it has to be done the worst part of a double header is the standing around waiting for the track to be regraded after the first meeting…. That seems to go on for ages and I have seen fans leave because of it Edited August 3, 2021 by KEITH M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, bigred said: Only classed as income if you actually get paid…hope for him kings lynn pay and on time . So are you saying he hasn’t been paid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, KEITH M said: Don’t know about you but even though I know it has to be done the worst part of a double header is rhe standing around waiting for the track to be regraded after the first meeting…. That seems to go on for ages and I have seen fans leave because of it Was an hour the interval at the Edinburgh meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TotallyHonestJohn Posted August 4, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 6:52 PM, screm said: Important Statement from the Promotion. As we will have all seen recently, the Birmingham Brummies have unfortunately reached a crossroads in their season that they are describing as 'make or break', putting out an urgent plea for their fans, old and new, to get behind their club once and for all and attend their forthcoming meeting on Wednesday night, or face the reality that Birmingham may have to close it doors. It is with extremely heavy hearts, that the Newcastle promotion would also like to make their supporters aware that due to low crowd numbers, we regrettably find ourselves in an insecure financial position leaving us uncertain of the future. Honestly Its not the begging bowl as that only puts a plaster over a running sore; its crowd numbers that are the issue as who wants to run a business at a loss? (by the way the answer to that question is "no-one")! The only meetings this season that have covered there costs were the first one of the season against Edinburgh and then the Redcar match and the big difference between these two and the other meetings to date are those clubs brought fans to the fixture in numbers to swell the usual crowd, There just isn't enough local interest at the minute for whatever reason and the club need 300 more paying customers to attend to make it viable. 300 doesn't seem a lot but it is the difference between running at a loss and breaking even. Then to be fair to the promotion its not for the want of trying by them to get people to come because they are promoting the B'Jesus out of it... Local TV: Metro Radio; Facebook and Twitter and the markets at Hexham Alnwick and Morpeth and the Quayside Market on Sunday and.... Get this.... they gave out 500 free tickets to folk for the Berwick match and no one; not a single person; nadir; none; took up the offer and that was for free entry FFS!!! What else is it going to take to get people in? a free programme and a pulled pork sandwich? honestly give me a break they are already giving free parking this year... We seen this at Worky with failing crowds and we know what has happened over there and you get people saying "Oh its a pity it folded I miss it" and when you ask if they went or not; the reply is "well no I didn't use to go but I used to follow it in the local paper" Eh!!! "I mean come on!!! What Chance Have They Got". If you want to keep it you need to use it and patronize to place... People on Facebook and Twitter and other such social media platforms can really help the club and it wouldn't be an onerous task as all they need to do is re-tweet and like whatever the club are putting out there and do all the other things that get the club noticed to try and spread the word and encourage people to come... the promotion are doing their very best but its just not happening. One clown on Sunday tackled Rob Grant and said "you are ruining this spot and you should do the right thing and flog it" You have to laugh because who would take something on that doesn't have a fan base anymore and costs them four grand a meeting to run? all the place needs is 650 paying customers and accepted that there are season ticket holders whose tickets are being honoured at the minute at cost to the club; however it would take just 300 more people through the door to put the place back on an even keel. Believe me when I say this Rob Grant is the only saviour of Newcastle Speedway there is no one waiting in the wings waiting to snap it up and what he needs is fans supporting the team; even if they don't like him; if they come and support the team; their home town club; is what is needed: from a place like Newcastle with a catchment of near 300,000 people and God knows how many else in the surrounding Tyne and Wear area he needs roughly 650 paying customers: 650 that's all!! or as many have pointed out it will go... and once its gone as far as Brough Park is concerned that would be that; as the other issue is ARC the stadium owners are only giving out one year leases at a time and who can build a business plan on that? Come on Newcastle Fans never mind giving this promotion some support just get along to Brough and start attending meetings and supporting your team again and lets show this promotion that it is worth their while sticking around and promoting Speedway on Tyneside... I'm sure I am not the only one who does not want this to be the last season we see Speedway in Newcastle ever again... Get Tweeting; Re-Tweeting; Liking and Forwarding on the stuff the club are putting out on Social Media and lets get it to the widest audience possible... You can do you bit by just sitting in your chair and it wont cost you a penny... Regards THJ 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 Feel for Granty,he got sold a pup.Trouble is all your Posts on here won’t help the situation one bit as most of fans the forum are regular attenders.The sport is in trouble but the people running the sport seem to think everything is rosy ,fans donations are propping up majority of Clubs.Perhaps Granty maybe should have started in NDL and built up from there.Only my opinion.Certainly doesn’t sound good for Newcastle and Birmingham given the financial climate at this present moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) The trouble is if 500 tickets were available free and no one turned up, how can we get 300 more through the door if they have to pay? Keep retweeting etc and forwarding Facebook posts and hopefully some will decide to go or return if they have stopped going. Hopefully the next 2 weekends bring in decentish away crowds which will help break even at least. Also anyone having a go at Granty after everything he has done is an idiot!! Edited August 4, 2021 by Gaz 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Feel for Granty ,he got sold a pup. Trouble is all your Posts on here won’t help the situation one bit as most of fans the forum are regular attenders. The sport is in trouble but the people running the sport seem to think everything is rosy ,fans donations are propping up majority of Clubs. Perhaps Granty maybe should have started in NDL and built up from there. Only my opinion. Certainly doesn’t sound good for Newcastle and Birmingham given the financial climate at this present moment. To be fair he didn't pay much for the pup however its upkeep is costing him an absolute fortune and if fans who are on the forum are also on Social Media and do their bit it cant do any harm to an already precarious situation. The NDL was a none starter as the Stadium and running costs make it a worse idea than running in the Championship.... The finances for running an NDL team at Newcastle just don't stack up whatsoever unfortunately and it has been considered by more than this promotion and rejected... Rob is between a rock and a hard place and his enthusiasm must be starting to wane by now as there are other issues rumbling away under the surface but he is trying to address the main problem to hand and he is promoting the hell out of the place but it all seems to be to no avail... But I agree with most of what you say and things are not looking good for next season that is for sure... maybe for me ice the franchise for a year and see what the BSPL do and possibly come back in 2023 if its viable... but there needs to be big changes and to be totally honest I think people are running out of ideas.... things should have been done before now especially with regard to Poland and Brexit.... here is a daft idea "What happens if Poland say to all the riders over there we will pay you more and you only race in this league nowhere else" where will that leave the job... Knackered I would say... Regards THJ Edited August 4, 2021 by TotallyHonestJohn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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