Diamondboy Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Tsunami said: Can’t make it on Tuesday but would be in favour of a Trust system like Edinburghs as long as it was run by the right people and was sustainable in the longer term, Count me in. Hope those who offer don’t take the p@ss out of the fans........ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, Diamondboy said: Hope those who offer don’t take the p@ss out of the fans........ I’m sure if we put How.I.Ever.Passed.My.CPC in charge of selecting trustees then we will be fine, he appears to be an expert of smoking out promoters who take the p@ss out of the fans yet provides zero evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 ZzzzzZzzzz 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Diamonds85 said: ZzzzzZzzzz.. yeah don't blame you Edited September 29, 2021 by Justgotmecpc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Justgotmecpc said: Would you like to get your CPC & I'll be glad to give you the info & promise not to take the p@ss Would you like to get your glasses as I believe you could be quoting the wrong person... however sincere apologies if I'm wrong... Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Diamondboy said: I’m sure if we put How.I.Ever.Passed.My.CPC in charge of selecting trustees then we will be fine, he appears to be an expert of smoking out promoters who take the p@ss out of the fans yet provides zero evidence. If you want the info on your CPC qualification I can give you the info & promise not to take the URINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Would you like to get your glasses as I believe you could be quoting the wrong person... however sincere apologies if I'm wrong... Regards THJ Cheers now corrected ha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardey Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/29/2021 at 2:45 PM, Discofever said: Hi what is the trust system and how does it work? Thanks In its basic form…it will hold money (donated by fans) for the purpose of the speedway club. The speedway club can request funds and must give a purpose and sufficient rationale for the funds. The Trust can also have a say in what the funds are to be used for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wardey said: In its basic form…it will hold money (donated by fans) for the purpose of the speedway club. The speedway club can request funds and must give a purpose and sufficient rationale for the funds. The Trust can also have a say in what the funds are to be used for. Is it? Well that's one idea? Hopefully you will be at the meeting and your proposal can be put to the vote... Regards John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, Wardey said: In its basic form…it will hold money (donated by fans) for the purpose of the speedway club. The speedway club can request funds and must give a purpose and sufficient rationale for the funds. The Trust can also have a say in what the funds are to be used for. A trust can be set up in whatever way the initial contributors, also know as the settlers, decide, by way of a trust deed. Thereafter, the trustees have the sole power to ensure that monies are spent according the deed. The deed should say how trustees are appointed and how they can be removed. So, the above comments really only define how a supporters’ club operates but could also apply to a trust as long as that is how the deed is written. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discofever Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Is it? Well that's one idea? Hopefully you will be at the meeting and your proposal can be put to the vote... Regards John So is this trust fund for Newcastle speedway here and now? Or is it for later to put towards a new venue, which really is no longer needed as Newcastle speedway has not closed and is still running at Brough Park. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Discofever said: So is this trust fund for Newcastle speedway here and now? Or is it for later to put towards a new venue, which really is no longer needed as Newcastle speedway has not closed and is still running at Brough Park. Thanks As I said earlier nothing is off the table and everything will be open to debate... there is more than one idea floating around out there on how we should move forward and ultimately if this gets off the ground how it will work and where it will go will be decided upon by the majority... you will need to come to your own view on that and see if you support it... we are if nothing else a democratic society... Newcastle has been saved by Rob for the moment however there are issues surrounding the venue that are well known... the sport is in difficulty for various reasons... and Rob has new backing for now but what happens if that position should change... We all got one almighty scare after the Birmingham meeting as the club had technically gone and an awful lot of fans wanted to do something... anything... that might throw the club a lifeline... what happens if we end up in the same position two or three years down the road... So will it just be a beefed up fan club... a trust with firmer guidelines... a charity or charitable trust to save on paying tax on donations or will it be something different again that offers the sport a future for years to come... or do we do nothing and trundle on as we always have done with the Sword of Damocles hanging over our heads... Attend the meeting air your views... see what is said and what the proposals are and see if there is anything you feel you could sign up to.... there is no pressure either way... nothing ventured nothing gained... Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardey Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Is it? Well that's one idea? Hopefully you will be at the meeting and your proposal can be put to the vote... Regards John If it isn’t then please enlighten. I know Trusts can operate differently pending on circumstances and wishes etc. Unfortunately I won’t be there, I would like to, but I live in Glasgow, so logistics would be an issue, especially when the bar is within easy reach lol. I am keen to donate and contribute, and I am on all the necessary social channels for the club and look forward to hearing the next steps and outcome from the meeting. Keep up the good work THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Discofever said: So is this trust fund for Newcastle speedway here and now? Or is it for later to put towards a new venue, which really is no longer needed as Newcastle speedway has not closed and is still running at Brough Park. Thanks 5 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: or will it be something different again that offers the sport a future for years to come... or do we do nothing and trundle on as we always have done with the Sword of Damocles hanging over our heads... Is it a bit like taking painkillers?,,, it doesn't fix the problem, it just relieves you from the pain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: Is it a bit like taking painkillers?,,, it doesn't fix the problem, it just relieves you from the pain? No... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: No... Good, cos it's no good just papering over the cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andys Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Discofever said: So is this trust fund for Newcastle speedway here and now? Or is it for later to put towards a new venue, which really is no longer needed as Newcastle speedway has not closed and is still running at Brough Park. Thanks I'd totally disagree that a new venue is not needed, it's desperately needed, but would guess its not financially possible atm, a new venue would open up many new revenue streams for the club 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 8:20 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Is it? Well that's one idea? Hopefully you will be at the meeting and your proposal can be put to the vote... Regards John The best thing to take the club forward by backing rob & all others involved is to dig deep into our pockets ( to what people can afford ) as we are well aware of covid & furlough coming to an end which may cause job losses .. & do the best we can to help our club of 92 years survive.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Justgotmecpc said: The best thing to take the club forward by backing rob & all others involved is to dig deep into our pockets ( to what people can afford ) as we are well aware of covid & furlough coming to an end which may cause job losses .. & do the best we can to help our club of 92 years survive.. and adding to that, there's the folk with little dependents seeing the 'Marcus Rashford ice-cream money' coming to an end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 Hearing that James Wright is the first rider to be named for 2022. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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