ruffdiamond Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 1:13 PM, Diamonds85 said: 15.5 points isn't a lot for your 2, 3, 4... Also Archie would be a 2* on this year's rules, as he has now had CL experience, BUT that currently makes no difference to the team building limit Expand A was thinking along the lines of 1 of those 3 (Connor),,, would be reserve?,,, but depends on rules and build limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 2:19 PM, ruffdiamond said: A was thinking along the lines of 1 of those 3 (Connor),,, would be reserve?,,, but depends on rules and build limits. Expand Don't think any of them will qualify as a reserve tbh, but who knows what the rules will be next year... All 3 are over 5 point riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 2:22 PM, Diamonds85 said: Don't think any of them will qualify as a reserve tbh, but who knows what the rules will be next year... All 3 are over 5 point riders Expand A see you had Adam down at no.7 in a previous post, his average is higher than James and Connor's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) On 10/4/2021 at 2:19 PM, ruffdiamond said: A was thinking along the lines of 1 of those 3 (Connor),,, would be reserve?,,, but depends on rules and build limits. Expand Way to far ahead of yourself,we don’t even know the League structure ,never mind what League you will be in. Edited October 4, 2021 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 1:08 PM, ruffdiamond said: James, Max and Connor would cost you about 15.5 points, chuck in Archie on 1 star and you could make room for 2 and a half big hitters, depending on points limits tho. Expand Remember you were told last season that there would be 2 Rising Stars in teams this year going forward so you will get 4 Stars which will allow for maximum combinations of a 3 + 1 Star or a 2 + 2 Star at reserve if you max out your Star ration.. After all it would be daft to stick in two 1 Star Reserves you may as well use up your star ration to the full... That will leave a figure to be chosen for the team building of the top 5 which due to the shortage of riders last season might be to a maximum of 35 but could be as low as 32 or even 30 for the Championship... The NDL will change possibly to clubs 2nd teams only so I am not sure where that will leave Mildenhall and the IOW (If they come back) and anyone else who thinks they could drop down into this league and thinking of Brum and Eastie here who have done this in the past or Oxford and Bradford if they were to come back and that is purely down to rider availability...Just personal thought that one though... Top league will be ok with the Super 6 but I would like to see a couple more added to this for a league of 8 or even 10 but cant see it happening somehow and let them build to 45 points so they can be as strong as possible... So 5 Stars for their reserves and 40 points for the 1 to 5... Finally I have been reading about this new Glasgow proposal that will be put forward by Michael Max amongst others which knowing Michael will be well thought out and lets face it could it be any worse than what we have at the minute with this rising star thing; looking forward to hearing more about this proposal and seeing how far it gets... lets hope its a winner. Regards THJ 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) On 10/4/2021 at 2:50 PM, Fromafar said: Way to far ahead of yourself,we don’t even know the League structure ,never mind what League you will be in. Expand A know that, just going along with other posters suggestions, no harm in looking down the road. Edited October 4, 2021 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) On 10/4/2021 at 3:41 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Remember you were told last season that there would be 2 Rising Stars in teams this year going forward so you will get 4 Stars which will allow for maximum combinations of a 3 + 1 Star or a 2 + 2 Star at reserve if you max out your Star ration.. After all it would be daft to stick in two 1 Star Reserves you may as well use up your star ration to the full... Expand Yeah, but we all know how often the wind changes direction, but a did say depending on points limits, (am sure some will know the general direction/probable outcome post agm)? Edited October 4, 2021 by ruffdiamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 3:41 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Remember you were told last season that there would be 2 Rising Stars in teams this year going forward so you will get 4 Stars which will allow for maximum combinations of a 3 + 1 Star or a 2 + 2 Star at reserve if you max out your Star ration.. After all it would be daft to stick in two 1 Star Reserves you may as well use up your star ration to the full... That will leave a figure to be chosen for the team building of the top 5 which due to the shortage of riders last season might be to a maximum of 35 but could be as low as 32 or even 30 for the Championship... The NDL will change possibly to clubs 2nd teams only so I am not sure where that will leave Mildenhall and the IOW (If they come back) and anyone else who thinks they could drop down into this league and thinking of Brum and Eastie here who have done this in the past or Oxford and Bradford if they were to come back and that is purely down to rider availability...Just personal thought that one though... Top league will be ok with the Super 6 but I would like to see a couple more added to this for a league of 8 or even 10 but cant see it happening somehow and let them build to 45 points so they can be as strong as possible... So 5 Stars for their reserves and 40 points for the 1 to 5... Finally I have been reading about this new Glasgow proposal that will be put forward by Michael Max amongst others which knowing Michael will be well thought out and lets face it could it be any worse than what we have at the minute with this rising star thing; looking forward to hearing more about this proposal and seeing how far it gets... lets hope its a winner. Regards THJ Expand The promoters meet during the season so will have a good idea what is planned then it's just rubber stamped at the AGM of course things such as are Swindon, Birmingham etc. Running is last on the agenda I think PL/CL/NL will stay for 2022 I think for 2022 not much will change, i know the PL are desperate for two to go up and want the CL weaker to force a couple up, CL are happy as is even if 2 rising stars are required next season. For me personally i think alot has gone on in 2021 and before that to just try and get through another year in 2022 to try and get fans back regularly For 2023 The BSPL need to then jump on what discovery are doing, have a British and National League replacing the PL and CL with the national league being weaker I.e. forcing at least one if not two of the big hitters out of the league NL I would abolish and create the British Lions Juniour League, U16 4 rider teams on 125cc bikes have them race during the summer holidays, could possibly get 4 to 6 teams together 2nd half racing with an individual series Then develope an U23 league similar set up on 500cc riders aged 16-23 maybe 6 to 8 sides 4 rider teams with an individual series included Would then come in line with what discovery are doing with SGP4 > SGP2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binman Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Where is all the juniors coming from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 9:42 PM, Falcon1983 said: The promoters meet during the season so will have a good idea what is planned then it's just rubber stamped at the AGM of course things such as are Swindon, Birmingham etc. Running is last on the agenda I think PL/CL/NL will stay for 2022 I think for 2022 not much will change, i know the PL are desperate for two to go up and want the CL weaker to force a couple up, CL are happy as is even if 2 rising stars are required next season. For me personally i think alot has gone on in 2021 and before that to just try and get through another year in 2022 to try and get fans back regularly For 2023 The BSPL need to then jump on what discovery are doing, have a British and National League replacing the PL and CL with the national league being weaker I.e. forcing at least one if not two of the big hitters out of the league NL I would abolish and create the British Lions Juniour League, U16 4 rider teams on 125cc bikes have them race during the summer holidays, could possibly get 4 to 6 teams together 2nd half racing with an individual series Then develope an U23 league similar set up on 500cc riders aged 16-23 maybe 6 to 8 sides 4 rider teams with an individual series included Would then come in line with what discovery are doing with SGP4 > SGP2 Expand What about 250 class which is currently the strongest class even if it's not the biggest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discofever Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 Newcastle Speedway is thrilled to be able to announce the date of our End of Season Celebration! FRIDAY 12TH NOVEMBER 7PM START KINGSTON PARK STADIUM (Newcastle Falcons) This is a TICKETED EVENT ONLY with a limited amount available, so be quick and book yours TODAY! As we all know, we so very nearly weren't going to be making it to the tapes in 2022, so we would like to class this event not just as a closure to the 2021 season but also a celebration to look forward to another season of racing in 2022 at Newcastle! Please join us for what promises to be a brilliant evening of food, drink, dancing and above all CELEBRATING!! There will be no strict dress code, but please dress to impress and bring your dancing shoes with you! Tickets can be booked via private message on Facebook or email Info@newcastle-speedway.co.uk or contact Rachel on 07393215192 A good night to be had by all as we celebrate the beginning of a new lease of life at Newcastle Speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discofever Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 6:36 AM, Discofever said: Newcastle Speedway is thrilled to be able to announce the date of our End of Season Celebration! FRIDAY 12TH NOVEMBER 7PM START KINGSTON PARK STADIUM (Newcastle Falcons) This is a TICKETED EVENT ONLY with a limited amount available, so be quick and book yours TODAY! As we all know, we so very nearly weren't going to be making it to the tapes in 2022, so we would like to class this event not just as a closure to the 2021 season but also a celebration to look forward to another season of racing in 2022 at Newcastle! Please join us for what promises to be a brilliant evening of food, drink, dancing and above all CELEBRATING!! There will be no strict dress code, but please dress to impress and bring your dancing shoes with you! Tickets can be booked via private message on Facebook or email Info@newcastle-speedway.co.uk or contact Rachel on 07393215192 A good night to be had by all as we celebrate the beginning of a new lease of life at Newcastle Speedway Expand Tickets are £20pp and it includes disco and buffet. It’s 7pm til late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 2:19 PM, ruffdiamond said: A was thinking along the lines of 1 of those 3 (Connor),,, would be reserve?,,, but depends on rules and build limits. Expand Dont forget, Connor is a Leicester asset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 9:29 AM, Skodaman said: Dont forget, Connor is a Leicester asset Expand A didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 6:36 AM, phillwhitewasmad said: What about 250 class which is currently the strongest class even if it's not the biggest Expand for me it all depends on SGP4 is as they are looking at standardised equipment and trying to make the entry into the sport cheaper, they've said its likely to be 125 I guess the UK could look to have a 125/250 mix but I would follow the path of SGP4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 3:41 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Remember you were told last season that there would be 2 Rising Stars in teams this year going forward so you will get 4 Stars which will allow for maximum combinations of a 3 + 1 Star or a 2 + 2 Star at reserve if you max out your Star ration.. After all it would be daft to stick in two 1 Star Reserves you may as well use up your star ration to the full... That will leave a figure to be chosen for the team building of the top 5 which due to the shortage of riders last season might be to a maximum of 35 but could be as low as 32 or even 30 for the Championship... The NDL will change possibly to clubs 2nd teams only so I am not sure where that will leave Mildenhall and the IOW (If they come back) and anyone else who thinks they could drop down into this league and thinking of Brum and Eastie here who have done this in the past or Oxford and Bradford if they were to come back and that is purely down to rider availability...Just personal thought that one though... Top league will be ok with the Super 6 but I would like to see a couple more added to this for a league of 8 or even 10 but cant see it happening somehow and let them build to 45 points so they can be as strong as possible... So 5 Stars for their reserves and 40 points for the 1 to 5... Finally I have been reading about this new Glasgow proposal that will be put forward by Michael Max amongst others which knowing Michael will be well thought out and lets face it could it be any worse than what we have at the minute with this rising star thing; looking forward to hearing more about this proposal and seeing how far it gets... lets hope its a winner. Regards THJ Expand No it won't. Wolves have publicly stated (in last weeks Star) that they won't run in a six team league next year. So the top league will need 1, probably 2, teams joining the current six. That either means somebody moving up from the Championship (unlikely in my opinion) or Swindon and/or Oxford joining. It is by no means certain that Swindon will return next year. They took this year out to allow the stadium to be rebuilt, when in effect they could have ran as this work has only barely started. Oxford? Maybe, if they open up which league will they want to be in. If none of the above happens, will it be one league? I can't see the top division running with 5 teams. If so, at what level, and could we lose some more teams. As an aside if it goes to one league, of say 16 teams, where will they get 32 rising stars from, and how many "top" riders will jump ship to Europe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 1:56 PM, leander said: No it won't. Wolves have publicly stated (in last weeks Star) that they won't run in a six team league next year. So the top league will need 1, probably 2, teams joining the current six. That either means somebody moving up from the Championship (unlikely in my opinion) or Swindon and/or Oxford joining. It is by no means certain that Swindon will return next year. They took this year out to allow the stadium to be rebuilt, when in effect they could have ran as this work has only barely started. Oxford? Maybe, if they open up which league will they want to be in. If none of the above happens, will it be one league? I can't see the top division running with 5 teams. If so, at what level, and could we lose some more teams. As an aside if it goes to one league, of say 16 teams, where will they get 32 rising stars from, and how many "top" riders will jump ship to Europe? Expand There are not many “Top” riders that could jump ship,or they would be there already. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 2:35 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Hi This goes out to everyone who expressed a wish to save the club prior to Rob rising like a phoenix and changing his mind to stay... There will be a meeting next Tuesday @ 19:30 hours (7:30 PM) 5th October at the South Gosforth Sports & Social Club Laburnum Cottage, Percy Terrace, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 1RS. This meeting will look at the appetite to set up a Trust; with supporting funds; to look at sustaining Speedway in Newcastle. There will be a full and frank discussion following on from the offers of support for the club from individual fans and businesses and to debate the merits on proposals that ensure the club does not end up in the same precarious position we have faced over the last few weeks of the season. This will possibly be the only opportunity we have to get together and look at proposals for sustaining the sport and keeping the momentum going on the back of all the goodwill following the near closure of the club... There are no silly ideas and all proposals will be given an airing and hopefully we can bring something positive out of this get together... All are welcome and this includes any representatives of businesses who expressed an interest in the original proposal of a fan based buy out... please come along hear what is said and lets see if we can pull something positive together... There will also be a post notifying people on Facebook and Twitter of this meeting Look forward to seeing as many of you there as possible Regards John Expand Tonight is the night people if you want to help or make a change Looking forward to seeing as many people as posible Regards John 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 3:59 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Tonight is the night people if you want to help or make a change Looking forward to seeing as many people as posible Regards John Expand If I could go... I'd love to, but I'm at work best of luck to all there and fingers crossed something good comes from the meeting... looking forward to hearing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 3:59 PM, TotallyHonestJohn said: Tonight is the night people if you want to help or make a change Looking forward to seeing as many people as posible Regards John Expand Hope it all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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