chunky Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, BL65 said: The Dugard clan could have put their own 'team' out. Charlie first appeared for Eastbourne in 1936, John first rode for the team in 1957, Bob in 1959, Eric 1972, Martin 1985, Paul 1992 and Kelsey 2015. I don't want to hijack the thread or anything, but are there any other cases of FOUR generations involved in British speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanf2 Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 Bob Coles, Michael Coles and Connor Coles al rode for Mildenhall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 8 hours ago, chunky said: I don't want to hijack the thread or anything, but are there any other cases of FOUR generations involved in British speedway? No problem with that Chunky...I enjoy threads that develop further. I did raise the Dugard "Clan" in another thread and can't think of another example of four generations of the same family competing in speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, steve roberts said: No problem with that Chunky...I enjoy threads that develop further. I did raise the Dugard "Clan" in another thread and can't think of another example of four generations of the same family competing in speedway? Not British, but Anton Jansson who competed in the FIM Youth Gold Trophy last weekend is a fourth generation rider. Father Jimmy Grandpa Bo (and great uncle Tommy) Great grand father Joel Edited July 21, 2021 by arnieg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 I also remember this- I think Wilf was in his fifties and got drafted in because there was a regular unavailable (I could be wrong though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 10:54 PM, BL65 said: The Dugard clan could have put their own 'team' out. Charlie first appeared for Eastbourne in 1936, John first rode for the team in 1957, Bob in 1959, Eric 1972, Martin 1985, Paul 1992 and Kelsey 2015. I'm not 100% sure but I believe Sam Hagons mother is a Dugard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, Technik said: I'm not 100% sure but I believe Sam Hagons mother is a Dugard. Alf Hagon was an accomplished rider in the 1950s and 1960s, principally with Harringay, Wimbledon, Leicester, Oxford and West Ham. His son Martin represented clubs including Hackney, Sheffield and Ipswich in the 1980s. Sam Hagon is the son of Martin Hagon and Charlotte (Bob Dugard's daughter, sister of Martin Dugard), becoming the third generation of Hagon's in speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 John & Chris Louis & at a push you could include Jem Doncaster who is Stepfather to Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Technik said: John & Chris Louis & at a push you could include Jem Doncaster who is Stepfather to Chris Remember, this thread isn't just about finding fathers and sons - there are many who haven't been mentioned. The original question asked if there were any cases of three fathers (at the same time) and each of their sons, riding for the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 5 hours ago, chunky said: Remember, this thread isn't just about finding fathers and sons - there are many who haven't been mentioned. The original question asked if there were any cases of three fathers (at the same time) and each of their sons, riding for the same team. That is incorrect. The heading is Fathers & Sons. There is no mention of any number. The first post gives us the names of 3 men that rode for a club & then their respective sons but at no point does it mention three is the required number. The first poster to mention "3" is you in the 4th post on the topic. You are the one reading something that is not there & taking over a topic again & making the rules up to suit yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Technik said: That is incorrect. The heading is Fathers & Sons. There is no mention of any number. The first post gives us the names of 3 men that rode for a club & then their respective sons but at no point does it mention three is the required number. The first poster to mention "3" is you in the 4th post on the topic. You are the one reading something that is not there & taking over a topic again & making the rules up to suit yourself. That's a very unfair comment, Technik. the opening post talks of three fathers and sons as the topic he wanted discussed. The discussion generally follows in that vein with contributors looking to match the number of three. It is really not just chunky who took that to be the subject of the thread. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I thought this subject had already been covered (though I can't find a link to the thread) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, compost said: I thought this subject had already been covered (though I can't find a link to the thread) ? It has in so far as a long list of father and sons can be found. But this is a bit different with them riding with other father and sons I don’t know if the Zabiks rode with the Kasprzaks or the Tomiceks with one of the other Czech families etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, iris123 said: It has in so far as a long list of father and sons can be found. But this is a bit different with them riding with other father and sons I don’t know if the Zabiks rode with the Kasprzaks or the Tomiceks with one of the other Czech families etc Thanks, my bad (would have clicked on the thanks icon but it keeps giving me an error message when I do that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 In the Czech Republic the Pardubice club has Ales Dryml, Vaclav Milik & Jiri Jirout & their sons Ales jnr & Lukas Dryml, Vaclav Milik jnr & Mario Jirout In Prague Jiri Stancl, Petr Ondrasik, Antonin Svab, & Antonin Kasper with their sons George Stancl, Pavel Ondrasik, Toni Svab & Toni Kasper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Olsens and Stancls at Brandon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted August 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 David Kennett & Colin Richardson both riding for Eastbourne in 1977 and sons Edward & Lee in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 For a Speedway Club with such a short history, may I humbly submit the following: 1964 Sunderland 'Saints' - Ken Sharples (Father), Paul Sharples (Son). 1973 Sunderland 'Stars' - George Barclay (Father), Terry Barclay (Son). Our 1964 Team had 9 Home Meetings only, as we were closed down after that. Our 1971 to 1974 Team managed four years before the same thing happened to us. So in that short space of time, we tracked two Fathers and Sons in the same team. Must be some sort of record? Does anybody know of any others in so short a time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 I remember reading in the Star about the 3 Jays riding in the same meeting in 1964 (last year of the long gone and lamented Prov. League). I recall seeing Alan ride many times in the mid sixties-is Alan Jay still with us (hopefully) ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 Ivan and Kym Mauger ? i am sure they did meet in competition? Barry/ Tony Briggs i don’t think Barry ever rode against Tony.This was mainly because Tony started his career in the USA and i can remember there being a rumpus about Tony/ Dave Bargh being to young to ride in the Australasian Final.They could of met in one of those finals but didn’t, even though both of the Briggoe’s did ride endless laps against each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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