Warriors Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Poole up to there old tricks, as they say leopard never changes it's spot's, R/R for a rider that's not even arrived yet, that's why know one can take this sport seriously, absolute joke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Warriors said: Poole up to there old tricks, as they say leopard never changes it's spot's, R/R for a rider that's not even arrived yet, that's why know one can take this sport seriously, absolute joke. Berwick did the same thing with Garcia, so it's nothing new for this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: So attack the poster rather than defend the undefendable? Bowtell had no support on the back straight last night. Many Plymouth fans were calling it a dirty move. In your own words you said Bowtell was out of control if this is correct (which its not)how could he deliberately put Hume into the fence if he was not in control, I've no more to say on the matter enough said, thank you and goodnight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Steve, Think Garcia was in and rode in the Berwick side in 2019, and declared in their team for the 2020 and 2021 seasons. Seems a far cry from just signing AN Other rider who hasnt even arrived in the UK and claiming r/r ? Blatantly contravenes the rulebook....... just surprised my local team Kent don't pull a similar stunt, sign a couple of unknown overseas riders and claim their paperwork is delayed and use guests and/or r/r . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, old bob at herne bay said: Steve, Think Garcia was in and rode in the Berwick side in 2019, and declared in their team for the 2020 and 2021 seasons. Seems a far cry from just signing AN Other rider who hasnt even arrived in the UK and claiming r/r ? Blatantly contravenes the rulebook....... just surprised my local team Kent don't pull a similar stunt, sign a couple of unknown overseas riders and claim their paperwork is delayed and use guests and/or r/r . The facility was granted for 7 days. It’s clearly explained in the Bournemouth Echo website. But due to ~covid it looks like he won’t turn a wheel in anger for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Jonnybegood said: Identical racing incident to the previous Schlein - Bowtell …racing … just the shoe on the other foot this time I dont know what you were watching to compare the incidents. When Hume came down, Bowtell literally knocked him off. Schlein didnt touch Bowtell and left him room to straighten up and finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnybegood Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 50 minutes ago, BobC said: I dont know what you were watching to compare the incidents. When Hume came down, Bowtell literally knocked him off. Schlein didnt touch Bowtell and left him room to straighten up and finish. As it was the opposite side of the track you have the view that the referee had this week . It’s difficult isn’t it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 4:20 PM, Steve Shovlar said: We on the back straight did have a very good view of it. Hume was passing Bowtell and as he went alongside of him,  Bowtell rode him into the fence. All the locals said Bowtell was clearly at fault. You could see Bowtell knew he was in the wrong as well. It wasn’t a case of closing the outside, as Hume was already there. He was basically barged into the fence and took most of the straight to come to a stop. In fact Plymouth Promoter Mark Philips predicted Bowtell would do this 3 weeks ago. ‘I can assure you Alfie will not forget it , it was RACING , it may be Rory complaining next time lol …only 3 weeks away for the Gladiators v Pirates league match’. https://plymouthdevils.proboards.com/thread/10347/gladiators-poole-22nd-june-koc?page=4 Ummm, so he moans about something and then does it back. Well you can't moan about it then. Idiot. I guess Hume and Cook can both do it back to him next time then as he can't moan about it!! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 How can Poole use R/R for a rider that has never rode in this country? Cheating at its best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 All this arguing now will not change the outcome. As in football what the ref gives is law on the day. I was not there so can not give an opinion but I have ordered the dvd so may then have a true thought about the matter. With regard to the r/r I see where people are coming from but the rider was in the country and red tape is holding things up. Poole were given a seven day facility but if it is not cleared by their next meeting the facility is withdrawn. Mr May would have objected strongly if there was anything underhand going on. Can’t wait to get down to Poole and watch some racing in such a competitive league and also to Plymouth (my home city) to see the Gladiators. Must admit hard to think of them not being the Devils. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Trackrat said: How can Poole use R/R for a rider that has never rode in this country? Cheating at its best. Most be within the rules or wouldn't of been sanctioned, so not cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Most be within the rules or wouldn't of been sanctioned, so not cheating Within the rules but moral cheats, get rid of a poor rider, replace with R/R, guaranteed points return = cheats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Trackrat said: Within the rules but moral cheats, get rid of a poor rider, replace with R/R, guaranteed points return = cheats. You should change your name to Thickrat! Are you suggesting that Poole somehow have some control over the Czech government and bribed them to change the countries COVID laws the day after the rider signed for Poole just so that they could use R/R? What a complete and utter 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 It’s not within the rules.  But Poole have been given special dispensation for 7 days.  It’s wrong on two levels. Poole chose to sack Keheler so they should have had his replacement ready to step straight in. They didn’t because they had to act quickly to keep cook at reserve so in my opinion the promotion caused the problem so should adhere to the rules.  1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Racin Jason 72 said: It’s not within the rules.  But Poole have been given special dispensation for 7 days.  It’s wrong on two levels. Poole chose to sack Keheler so they should have had his replacement ready to step straight in. They didn’t because they had to act quickly to keep cook at reserve so in my opinion the promotion caused the problem so should adhere to the rules.  Comparing this to Leicester's changes is similar, Government, Brexit, paperwork/visa issues. The difference being Leicester signed Andersen then realised there was an issue with Kennedy. They could then have used a NDL rider not declared in a P or CL side but decided to re-declare with another rider knowing it was short term. Poole, however, were given short term dispensation so could only use the r/r facility available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, chris4gillian said: You should change your name to Thickrat! Are you suggesting that Poole somehow have some control over the Czech government and bribed them to change the countries COVID laws the day after the rider signed for Poole just so that they could use R/R? What a complete and utter You're should be chrisgulliable, Poole know exactly what they are doing 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Trackrat said: Within the rules but moral cheats, get rid of a poor rider, replace with R/R, guaranteed points return = cheats. R/R scored 3+2….Keleher scored 6+2…..Whoever came up with that cheat was  a pure  genius …..… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnybegood Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 And a NL rider may have scored 2 ..Plymouth win .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) The problem Poole have is in three of their four away matches so far, heat 15 has been a big fat 5-1 to the home team!! The best they have done is a 3-3 at Glasgow when the match was already  well and truly won by the home team. Edited July 16, 2021 by scottyfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted July 16, 2021 Report Share Posted July 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, scottyfan said: R/R scored 3+2….Keleher scored 6+2…..Whoever came up with that cheat was  a pure  genius …..… Brilliant, one match, I'll quote this in a home match....cheats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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