screm Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Kasper has to fulfill a Danish meeting on Saturday with a lunchtime start and as he's not ride for Berwick they can't claim his services. Thank you, have you ever thought about doing the official site, you seem to more than they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, Paulco said: So to be clear about this ......Berwick can't use r/r for Anderson because he hasn't rode a meeting for them this season , so they have to revert to using r/r for Garcia - who hasn't rode a meeting for them this season That’s the usual practice - ‘revert’ to the previous declaration. It’s not a problem in this instance, but could be a big problem if the averages had changed making the move impossible once Andersen is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 To be fair the rules are clear and explicit on this....... 'No facility is permitted to replace a rider, who although included in a redeclaration has not made an appearance for that team since being redeclared.' Kasper has already been declared, so I guess its a national league guest, is Ryan Kinsley eligible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, screm said: I`d love to know why Anderson isnt at Scunthorpe tomorrow night, is he available for Saturday`s meeting with Newcastle. You get the feeling rule makers put the rules together in pencil so they be rubbed out and replaced by something different. He is not available for Sat because of a mid-day fixture in Denmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, eric i said: To be fair the rules are clear and explicit on this....... 'No facility is permitted to replace a rider, who although included in a redeclaration has not made an appearance for that team since being redeclared.' Kasper has already been declared, so I guess its a national league guest, is Ryan Kinsley eligible? Maybe Berwick have re-declared their original re-declaration. Once Saturday`s with Newcastle is over they will revert to their original re-declaration and re-declare their team with Anderson in it all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 38 minutes ago, Paulco said: So to be clear about this ......Berwick can't use r/r for Anderson because he hasn't rode a meeting for them this season , so they have to revert to using r/r for Garcia - who hasn't rode a meeting for them this season Clear as mud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: That’s the usual practice - ‘revert’ to the previous declaration. It’s not a problem in this instance, but could be a big problem if the averages had changed making the move impossible once Andersen is available. I know , it's just amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 42 minutes ago, screm said: Maybe Berwick have re-declared their original re-declaration. Once Saturday`s with Newcastle is over they will revert to their original re-declaration and re-declare their team with Anderson in it all over again. But what about the rule that states...... 'A rider taken out of a team cannot be re-introduced in that team within 14 days.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, eric i said: But what about the rule that states...... 'A rider taken out of a team cannot be re-introduced in that team within 14 days.' Has he been taken out of the team, or not introduced yet……? By reverting does the new declaration cease to exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Has he been taken out of the team, or not introduced yet……? By reverting does the new declaration cease to exist? If it does then as we speak Anderson could join another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: Has he been taken out of the team, or not introduced yet……? By reverting does the new declaration cease to exist? He appears on latest greensheet/ team declarations, so to say it ceases to exist would be odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, screm said: Thank you, have you ever thought about doing the official site, you seem to more than they do. Just read it in the Dirt Extra Sarah and James mentioned it I'm no that bright lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, eric i said: He appears on latest greensheet/ team declarations, so to say it ceases to exist would be odd. My post was tongue in cheek, but that is in essence how a 'reversion' works, Berwick's issue 4 declaration is ignored and they rewind to the issue 3 declaration (which then impacts on issue 5). Fortunately reversions don't happen very often :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: My post was tongue in cheek, but that is in essence how a 'reversion' works, Berwick's issue 4 declaration is ignored and they rewind to the issue 3 declaration (which then impacts on issue 5). Fortunately reversions don't happen very often :-) Does it say this anywhere in the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Was Andersen declared in the Berwick 1-7 for the (postponed) match against Glasgow? IF he was, then surely they can't revert back? Also, when was the Danish match re-arranged? Was it after Andersen signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, eric i said: Does it say this anywhere in the rules? From memory, it's an unwritten rule ...... 27 minutes ago, StevePark said: Was Andersen declared in the Berwick 1-7 for the (postponed) match against Glasgow? IF he was, then surely they can't revert back? Also, when was the Danish match re-arranged? Was it after Andersen signed? Andersen is currently in the declared 1-7, but yes they can revert back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: From memory, it's an unwritten rule ...... Andersen is currently in the declared 1-7, but yes they can revert back. Only in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: From memory, it's an unwritten rule ...... Andersen is currently in the declared 1-7, but yes they can revert back. It’s quite heavy read “The Book of Unwritten Rules in Speedway” it’s on par with” War and Peace”. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just announced on twitter that TJ returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 3:49 PM, crescent girl said: R/R is being used for Coty, not Kasper. At #3, l believe. Seems R/R will be at No2 https://www.facebook.com/speedwaygb/photos/a.10153132803100466/10159810057130466/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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