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Cat Fight. P'boro v Sheffield 28 June


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13 hours ago, Noodles said:

Had to wait for the drizzle to stop because of rider visibility

I'm not entirely sure what all the fuss was about? Visibility seems a bit of a red herring to me, it was barely raining, a light drizzle/heavy mist, the track certainly wasn't what I'd call "wet", just a bit heavy... In fact I'd say it was perfect, easily providing the best racing so far this year at the EoEA(S)

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Are there always that many & such a wide variety of vehicles used to prep the track at EoES?

Thought Brennan & Howarth were reasonable for Tigers, Wright wasn't too far off the pace  Batchelor in particular & Sedgmen were the disappointments.

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1 hour ago, iainb said:

I'm not entirely sure what all the fuss was about? Visibility seems a bit of a red herring to me, it was barely raining, a light drizzle/heavy mist, the track certainly wasn't what I'd call "wet", just a bit heavy... In fact I'd say it was perfect, easily providing the best racing so far this year at the EoEA(S)

Brings back memories of Alan Mogridge falling in a race at the showground whilst a Panther , his reason for falling was mist on his goggles and not being able to see properly 

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24 minutes ago, scoobydoo said:

Brings back memories of Alan Mogridge falling in a race at the showground whilst a Panther , his reason for falling was mist on his goggles and not being able to see properly 

Probably has cataracts 

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On 6/29/2021 at 9:18 AM, iainb said:

I'm not entirely sure what all the fuss was about? Visibility seems a bit of a red herring to me, it was barely raining, a light drizzle/heavy mist, the track certainly wasn't what I'd call "wet", just a bit heavy... In fact I'd say it was perfect, easily providing the best racing so far this year at the EoEA(S)

Visibility is so overrated. maybe you would prefer them to be blindfolded and sent out for your amusement.

Drizzle is probably the worst kind of rain for visibility, worse than heavy rain as it doesn't bead up and run off the surface of your goggles readily. But please carry on with the expert opinions

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8 minutes ago, wtf said:

Visibility is so overrated. maybe you would prefer them to be blindfolded and sent out for your amusement.

Drizzle is probably the worst kind of rain for visibility, worse than heavy rain as it doesn't bead up and run off the surface of your goggles readily. But please carry on with the expert opinions

Isn't that why they were tear offs or the roller system? You've seen them ride in the rain, drizzle, wet muddy tracks with mud spray. I've seen Coventry riding at Belle Vue (Hyde Road) in the last ever meeting with driving monsoon rain sweeping across the stadium.

All I'm suggesting is that the visibility was not the issue on Monday evening.

Please save your sarcasm for when it's really needed :lol:

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1 minute ago, iainb said:

Isn't that why they were tear offs or the roller system? You've seen them ride in the rain, drizzle, wet muddy tracks with mud spray. I've seen Coventry riding at Belle Vue (Hyde Road) in the last ever meeting with driving monsoon rain sweeping across the stadium.

All I'm suggesting is that the visibility was not the issue on Monday evening

Says a man who has clearly never done it. If you think tear offs and roller systems provide beautiful clear vision, your wrong.

If you also think 14 guys want to turn up at a track, spend costs on fuel, mechanics etc and then go back with zero income you're wrong. They'd just like a better than average chance of earning a living without dying for no good reason.

Yes everyone has a different opinion of what's safe to ride in, but I'd tend to listen more to those who are doing it than those who are not. They do not want to go home unpaid believe me on that. 

Peterborough is a fast track, the usual racing line is not far from that lovely comfy air bag that they are bound to just bounce off like a bouncy castle. They want to ride, but riding and racing require different conditions. 

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5 minutes ago, wtf said:

Says a man who has clearly never done it. If you think tear offs and roller systems provide beautiful clear vision, your wrong.

If you also think 14 guys want to turn up at a track, spend costs on fuel, mechanics etc and then go back with zero income you're wrong. They'd just like a better than average chance of earning a living without dying for no good reason.

Yes everyone has a different opinion of what's safe to ride in, but I'd tend to listen more to those who are doing it than those who are not. They do not want to go home unpaid believe me on that. 

Peterborough is a fast track, the usual racing line is not far from that lovely comfy air bag that they are bound to just bounce off like a bouncy castle. They want to ride, but riding and racing require different conditions. 

If they're going to potentially not run meetings due to "visibility" in the conditions that were prevalent on Monday night then the sport is finished in this country. It wasn't even raining.

Quit with the sarcasm... it is the lowest form of wit

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How long was the delay to wait for the drizzle to stop? Doesn't seem worth making a fuss over if it wasn't long, and I'd agree that the finer the rain the harder it is to see out of a pair of glasses/goggles.

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25 minutes ago, iainb said:

If they're going to potentially not run meetings due to "visibility" in the conditions that were prevalent on Monday night then the sport is finished in this country. It wasn't even raining.

Quit with the sarcasm... it is the lowest form of wit

We waited 30 minutes so people could race safely and you bitch and moan, but you do that about most things. 

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Just now, wtf said:

We waited 30 minutes so people could race safely and you bitch and moan, but you do that about most things. 

 

If we are going to indulge in a bit of sarcasm though...

Come to Peterborough to watch the Speedway! Unless there's a bit of drizzle in the air, then come! Oh... unless it's a sunny night and the sun gets in the riders eyes, then come.

Oh and if you didn't realise, did you know the speedway bikes don't have any brakes on them! I know dangerous right?! Maybe we should have wet weather setups, weather shield on the bikes with wipers on and mandatory fitting of brakes to the bikes.

I've stopped being sarcastic now. Visibility was not an issue on Monday night I don't even know why they're suggesting it was?

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I have never ridden a speedway bike but I used to ride a bike on the road (Jawa CZ 250cc Twin and then Honda 400cc Dream). Driving rain was never a problem with visibility but a fine mist could make things very difficult. In fact the only things I came across that was worse was driving snow, a low sun ahead of you and the occasional idiot who put their main beam back on about 30 yards before they passed you in the opposite direction. 

I say this remembering that I had a screen in front of me, tarmac rather than shale under my wheels and brakes to slow down and stop with. If most of the riders at a meeting say they can't see properly then I would never argue with them. 

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On 7/3/2021 at 12:27 PM, Chris116 said:

I have never ridden a speedway bike but I used to ride a bike on the road (Jawa CZ 250cc Twin and then Honda 400cc Dream). Driving rain was never a problem with visibility but a fine mist could make things very difficult. In fact the only things I came across that was worse was driving snow, a low sun ahead of you and the occasional idiot who put their main beam back on about 30 yards before they passed you in the opposite direction. 

I say this remembering that I had a screen in front of me, tarmac rather than shale under my wheels and brakes to slow down and stop with. If most of the riders at a meeting say they can't see properly then I would never argue with them. 

Like I said,  I think the visibility "excuse" was a red herring.

 

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