SharpenRake Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 56 minutes ago, crazysue said: Is there anyone going to this meeting who would be able to text updates to the Updates site? If so, could you please send me a private message which includes your mobile phone number. Thanks At a time when speedway teams need every penny they can get do you not think it is morally wrong to ask for an updater when the match is being streamed for a very reasonable price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: At a time when speedway teams need every penny they can get do you not think it is morally wrong to ask for an updater when the match is being streamed for a very reasonable price. I Don't. The updates site has been in place for a good while & it helps those that cannot attend to keep up with what is going on in the speedway world without charge. The live stream is also very important as a social media outlet but it's reliability has been questioned several times & some people with limited funds would think twice before paying for this service. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Technik said: I Don't. The updates site has been in place for a good while & it helps those that cannot attend to keep up with what is going on in the speedway world without charge. The live stream is also very important as a social media outlet but it's reliability has been questioned several times & some people with limited funds would think twice before paying for this service. I agree with sharpen rake. Unless fans pay to watch the sport dies. I am certainly watching this match on my computer if it all works and I have been happy to pay for the service. Technik is one of an army of people who allege that they support Speedway, but want it all for nothing. The Updates thing is something I have never agreed with. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Technik said: I Don't. The updates site has been in place for a good while & it helps those that cannot attend to keep up with what is going on in the speedway world without charge. The live stream is also very important as a social media outlet but it's reliability has been questioned several times & some people with limited funds would think twice before paying for this service. So another 'fan' that thinks live speedway should be free. You can keep up to date with what's going on by visiting the speedway GB official site later on in the evening or the following morning. And you think because something might not work people won't buy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: At a time when speedway teams need every penny they can get do you not think it is morally wrong to ask for an updater when the match is being streamed for a very reasonable price. Given that the update service has been a huge assistance to many across the country for many years and all done entirely by volunteers i think that any attack on it and the great people who have helped is morally wrong. I also don't believe that the two are in competition. Someone will stream or watch the updates or neither. If someone has chosen to not pay the streaming fee i hugely doubt the reason is because someone trackside is sending through a 1-2 line update of the race details. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, East End Fan said: I agree with sharpen rake. Unless fans pay to watch the sport dies. I am certainly watching this match on my computer if it all works and I have been happy to pay for the service. Technik is one of an army of people who allege that they support Speedway, but want it all for nothing. The Updates thing is something I have never agreed with. Technik doesn't want it all for nothing and has never claimed to. The point raised was that the streams are in their infancy and some of the reliability issues are yet to be smoothed out which may cause some people to consider if its worth the gamble or not? Would anyone attend the cinema to watch a film if there was a chance that it might freeze for 10 minutes, have a section with iffy sound and then cut off the ending? Obviously the streams are not that bad but there is still the possibility. Clubs won't be able to continue with the streams once normal attendance figures are allowed and indeed they would then be creating competition to their own product. Enjoy them whilst they are around and show your support to the updates once you return to using them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Poole Speedway have always (usually) done a heat by heat twitter update, whether the meeting is streamed/videoed or televised. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crazysue Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 hours ago, SharpenRake said: At a time when speedway teams need every penny they can get do you not think it is morally wrong to ask for an updater when the match is being streamed for a very reasonable price. Live steams are important and it is good they are being put on. However, just like in person admission prices, not everyone can afford it. Would we rather people go without entirely and lose more fans or indeed attracting new ones to give it a try or keep chipping away, keeping/sparking an interest and preventing people from walking away from the sport for ever. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I have to put my cards on the table at this point. I only ever attend live fixtures. I have never used the updates site. But I have seen it when standing with others at a meeting & believe it has value to those who want to keep updated. When I am at a speedway meeting I don't have a programme I choose only to watch the racing unfold & only after a race will I worry which riders are in it. The Stream is also a valuable asset but again one that I doubt I will use as it is my belief that speedway should be watched live. So no I am not in an Army of supporters that want it all for free nor am I a keyboard commando that spouts off at any given chance with out attending a meeting. I go to speedway all over the world & if given a quid for each time I heard the phrase "I used to go to speedway" a rich man I'd be. See you all at Poole tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crazysue Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 hours ago, East End Fan said: I agree with sharpen rake. Unless fans pay to watch the sport dies. I am certainly watching this match on my computer if it all works and I have been happy to pay for the service. Technik is one of an army of people who allege that they support Speedway, but want it all for nothing. The Updates thing is something I have never agreed with. And that is indeed your perogative. Speedway Updates was designed to make the sport accessible to all, as an example, I can no longer travel to away meetings due to disabilites and without the various updates (and not just ours), I would probably have walked (well wheeled) away from the sport years ago. Some people can't afford to attend, some people can't go as they have to work or have family commitments....we have to keep interest in the sport, not push it away. 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Rory Schlein's family use the Updates site regularly to check on his scores from Australia, I'm sure Zane and Ben's will too. There's also Stefan's dad in Denmark. Steve's mum is also a regular visitor on the site. It's a valuable asset for not just supporters, riders families too. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Watching the stream. Sounds like Rosco as a co-commentator. Looks like a decent enough production. Would possibly be better with a pit of a pit view from time to time. Edited June 30, 2021 by Grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nassa10 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Technik doesn't want it all for nothing and has never claimed to. The point raised was that the streams are in their infancy and some of the reliability issues are yet to be smoothed out which may cause some people to consider if its worth the gamble or not? Would anyone attend the cinema to watch a film if there was a chance that it might freeze for 10 minutes, have a section with iffy sound and then cut off the ending? Obviously the streams are not that bad but there is still the possibility. Clubs won't be able to continue with the streams once normal attendance figures are allowed and indeed they would then be creating competition to their own product. Enjoy them whilst they are around and show your support to the updates once you return to using them. Clubs can continue post restrictions with streams. It can be geoblocked for eg 50 miles and it can also be done in-house 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Coverage was decent. Not much of a match though. Kent not really at the races despite Nicholls and Starke providing the highlights in terms of passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Poor scotty, carrying that lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Good job Nicholls turned up otherwise it would have been embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobC Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Thank goodness for Scott Nicholls. He made his passes on King and Worrall look so effortless. Vintage stuff from him. Brilliant to watch. Beyond him, only Paul Starke offered any kind of resistance. Really pleased for Danyon Hume. No other League racing for him. Looks very quick and fully deserved his rider of the night from Wessex Marine. You can only beat whats in front of you, but I cant say it was particularly exciting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 As predicted a complete walk in the park for Pirates. Thank you Scotty for putting up much needed resistance. Rider of the night IMO with some excellent racing. But the rest of them should have just stayed at home. One man v Poole. And seriously. Paul Hurry? Paul has been a very good servant for British speedway over the years, being a solid second string rider. But watching a tubby middle aged man miss the gate every time and struggle at the back was not good to see. Better he gives his place up to a rising star rider who is desperate for a team spot. His time has gone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I said after reading last week's Star that Len wants an upgraded NDL to escape back to in 2022 and more convinced after tonight. Scott rolled back the years on a bumpy track he's no great fan of. Starke gave 100% as always the rest were well below par. Can't see Kent in CL without Scott and I'm sure he could still name his price in 2022 for any CL team he can fit his TV work around. Poole look sure to be in play offs provided they finish the season. Decent streaming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: As predicted a complete walk in the park for Pirates. Thank you Scotty for putting up much needed resistance. Rider of the night IMO with some excellent racing. But the rest of them should have just stayed at home. One man v Poole. And seriously. Paul Hurry? Paul has been a very good servant for British speedway over the years, being a solid second string rider. But watching a tubby middle aged man miss the gate every time and struggle at the back was not good to see. Better he gives his place up to a rising star rider who is desperate for a team spot. His time has gone. Agreed. Paul has suffered some terrible injuries and I think only about 3 times in his career has not finished the season on the injuries list. There comes a time when age and injuries tell your body it’s time to gracefully leave the stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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