Sings4Speedway Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Biffa said: Does this decision include away meetings, or is it just home meetings? It reads as though it’s the whole operation but just not sure if it’s just home meetings. Thanks Will be both. No sense in running away meetings an incurring more costs with no home revenue coming in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Thanks. Bad news for Brummies at the moment, hope it all works out well in the end. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noaksey Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Osirian08 said: Anyone know why the council suddenly removed the pay on the gate option at short notice ? Wasn't there issues regarding this at the Redcar meeting? Have a look on that thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkypotter Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Because its a Govt 'trial' event - or a 'test' event if you will!! sounds a bit like michael gove going to portugal for the cup final and not isolating on his return (for a trial apparently ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, porkypotter said: i would think they are absolutely pig sick seing the huge crowds going into edgbaston for the cricket yesterday and the crowds due at wembley for the football. where is the justice there. hope the masons can weather the storm and get back on track asap. Trouble is Cricket has a big appeal to the Asian audience because of India and Pakistan, speedway does not, its not being racist to say that our sport is followed 99.9% by the White British population with quite a high average age group, its a very niche market, especially in a City like Birmingham which has a big ethnic percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Think the sh#t has finally hit the fan with the Wolves statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 I ve been told it was the Stadium Owners who pulled cash sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Speedway has been running crowds with reduced attendance for about 20 years now, you would think tracks would be better prepared for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, BuxtonTiger said: And if you have a ticket for next Wednesday??? Or if you bought a season ticket? Or if you donated to the Just Giving pot? A lot of fans, many of them pensioners, could be having to resign themselves to writing off a lot of their own money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, marko said: Trouble is Cricket has a big appeal to the Asian audience because of India and Pakistan, speedway does not, its not being racist to say that our sport is followed 99.9% by the White British population with quite a high average age group, its a very niche market, especially in a City like Birmingham which has a big ethnic percentage. Every city has a 100% ethnic percentage even if all white! You mean ethnic minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, porkypotter said: i would think they are absolutely pig sick seing the huge crowds going into edgbaston for the cricket yesterday and the crowds due at wembley for the football. where is the justice there. hope the masons can weather the storm and get back on track asap. It's almost like those stadiums are a lot bigger than speedway stadiums eh.... As an aside I think this whole "old people" don't know how to use PC line being mentioned a lot is a complete and utter myth TBH. I would expect there are very, very few who don't have some form of access to online sales in this day and age through family members as an alterative means. "them auld folks can't use PCs" is the latest in a line of BS for reducing crowd numbers..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathcote Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said: It's almost like those stadiums are a lot bigger than speedway stadiums eh.... As an aside I think this whole "old people" don't know how to use PC line being mentioned a lot is a complete and utter myth TBH. I would expect there are very, very few who don't have some form of access to online sales in this day and age through family members as an alterative means. "them auld folks can't use PCs" is the latest in a line of BS for reducing crowd numbers..... They most likely do have PC's and access to them but they just point blank refuse to use them for such things as ticket purchases. Look at the people in your local pub next time you go, everyone under 50 will be paying by card, those over 50 will open their wallet which contains a bank card but will insist on paying cash even if the barman has said they prefer card payments. Those that attend speedway are very much stuck in their ways they have turned up 5 mins before the start and paid cash and then stood in the exact same spot for 50 odd years and nothing is going to change that, and yes they would rather see the speedway closed down than change their ways in order to keep it running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkypotter Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, marko said: Trouble is Cricket has a big appeal to the Asian audience because of India and Pakistan, speedway does not, its not being racist to say that our sport is followed 99.9% by the White British population with quite a high average age group, its a very niche market, especially in a City like Birmingham which has a big ethnic percentage. spot on. big sports stadiums generate more money and there are a lot of sponsors that need to be satisfied so they are always likely to get more help getting crowds in. alas our lowly sport will always get trodden over by the big time charlies and we will always get the rough edge of the stick from local councils. just hope the tables turn on the 21st and the shackles are removed before it is too late for some tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Any information on why phones couldn't have been used to book tickets? Or were they? Surely people are able to ring up, use their card to buy, and either have them sent to their home, or the barcode sent to their phone? Or even pick them up on the night..? There is a though a myth that 50 somethings dont use computers. Most of us are extremely computer and internet savvy.. Especially when the wife suddenly walks in to the room.. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Heathcote said: They most likely do have PC's and access to them but they just point blank refuse to use them for such things as ticket purchases. Look at the people in your local pub next time you go, everyone under 50 will be paying by card, those over 50 will open their wallet which contains a bank card but will insist on paying cash even if the barman has said they prefer card payments. Very big generalisation, all the group i go to speedway with have bought tickets on line and pay by card, all over 60, i don't pay cash for anything, even know how to use the card only pumps at petrol stations don't speak for everyone, loads of over 60's use computers and pay by card what not having the facilities to pay cash does is stop people going on the spur of the moment if their plans change or the weather changes for the good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, Heathcote said: They most likely do have PC's and access to them but they just point blank refuse to use them for such things as ticket purchases. Look at the people in your local pub next time you go, everyone under 50 will be paying by card, those over 50 will open their wallet which contains a bank card but will insist on paying cash even if the barman has said they prefer card payments. Those that attend speedway are very much stuck in their ways they have turned up 5 mins before the start and paid cash and then stood in the exact same spot for 50 odd years and nothing is going to change that, and yes they would rather see the speedway closed down than change their ways in order to keep it running - hell of a wide sweeping stereotype TBH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaw Jim Duggan Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, porkypotter said: spot on. big sports stadiums generate more money and there are a lot of sponsors that need to be satisfied so they are always likely to get more help getting crowds in. alas our lowly sport will always get trodden over by the big time charlies and we will always get the rough edge of the stick from local councils. just hope the tables turn on the 21st and the shackles are removed before it is too late for some tracks. Those "larger sports" you mention are literally being trodden on as they are running at a % capacity they just happen to have a large standard % capacity which comes with overheads and costs which will far exceed speedway, the notion elite level sport has been favored, is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Third Man said: Very big generalisation, all the group i go to speedway with have bought tickets on line and pay by card, all over 60, i don't pay cash for anything, even know how to use the card only pumps at petrol stations don't speak for everyone, loads of over 60's use computers and pay by card what not having the facilities to pay cash does is stop people going on the spur of the moment if their plans change or the weather changes for the good I would suggest the "no refund" policy is definitely one that is hurting some tracks... Some I notice are doing full refunds so maybe all should just come out and say that full refunds will be given if the match doesnt take place, rather than "use your ticket for another match"... Away fans in particular may not be able to get to a restaging and it seems daft (and no doubt worrying), to have tickets available when capacity is so reduced and not do everything you can to get whatever the maximum is, into the stadium.. Any barriers to getting customers to give you their money are never a good thing.. Edited June 11, 2021 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Is it a coincidence that both the Teams one temporarily suspending the season Birmingham, and the other Wolves saying sustaining heavy losses, had major issues on there opening nights, has this impacted on attendances since ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Richard Weston said: New stadium works was certainly a factor. This decision has been reached due to the uncertainties facing speedway promotion in general, together with the likely disruption of building works at Abbey Stadium Guess they are well on with the new stadium, or is the national shortage of cement a problem? The restrictions was given as the main reason. Without those, I'm pretty sure the season would have gone ahead at Swindon just as it has since 2008 when it was all supposed to be getting built. I think they know as well as anyone that it's a long shot that there will be any stadium work this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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