Red Flag Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Victory parades with the whole team.on the back of a truck have fallen victim to the covid rules this season... Not at Wolves they haven’t 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, pvm said: I'm not 100% sure, But I believe there was an incident involving a rider with no helmet (parade lap) coming into contact with the grading tractor. The rule about having to wear a helmet was introduced shortly afterwards. so one thing happened which will never happen again and the customer experience suffers. There's one of the hundred things that are wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Victory parades with the whole team.on the back of a truck have fallen victim to the covid rules this season... Then send them round on a bike, it's so easy to do 19 minutes ago, pvm said: I'm not 100% sure, But I believe there was an incident involving a rider with no helmet (parade lap) coming into contact with the grading tractor. The rule about having to wear a helmet was introduced shortly afterwards. Are you referring to the Mark Thorpe incident at Swindon around 30 years ago? I believe a rule was introduced after that, that a rider couldn't be on the track at the same time as a tractor... nothing to do with helmets and parades. 2019 at BV the riders used to come round without helmets on and line up in front of the grandstands so the fans could see who they are and what they look like, more important than ever these days with them all wearing the same race suits, or they may as well just be robots. The parade at Leicester the other week saw all of the riders wearing helmets with the exception of Josh Auty... bizarre! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted June 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 16 hours ago, Tsunami said: No, they walk away never to return. Difference is you can play at grass usually at weekend meets. With Speedway being in teams, you have commitment to be available anywhere and every week for about 8 months. It has to be more disciplined to make it work.j An excellent reply at one time many teams operated Friday, Saturday and Sunday making it possible to have another income outside speedway. Having foreign riders has stopped that as they ride in Europe of a weekend. So supporters have to watch their side midweek and British riders cant ride as they need another income to make speedway viable. There is something wrong with speedway and it is making it entertaining in a place that is welcoming at time that's suitable and a cost that's reasonable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Flag said: Not at Wolves they haven’t Which shows how bizarrely different each council approach is Wolves appear to have a rather strict crowd limit and rules but allow this At Ipswich it is a specific requirement to not allow it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvm Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, iainb said: Are you referring to the Mark Thorpe incident at Swindon around 30 years ago? I believe a rule was introduced after that, that a rider couldn't be on the track at the same time as a tractor... nothing to do with helmets and parades. 2019 at BV the riders used to come round without helmets on and line up in front of the grandstands so the fans could see who they are and what they look like, more important than ever these days with them all wearing the same race suits, or they may as well just be robots. I had a vague recollection of something happening, and various recommendations being introduced. Hence why I prefixed my comment with "I'm not 100% sure". That's the thing with speedway, the rules & recommendations change on an almost year basis, that you lose track of when & why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Pieman72 said: An excellent reply at one time many teams operated Friday, Saturday and Sunday making it possible to have another income outside speedway. Having foreign riders has stopped that as they ride in Europe of a weekend. So supporters have to watch their side midweek and British riders cant ride as they need another income to make speedway viable. There is something wrong with speedway and it is making it entertaining in a place that is welcoming at time that's suitable and a cost that's reasonable. There have been tracks over the years, who have operated during the week and successfully. What holds back many of us, from travelling outside our local areas, is the diabolical traffic congestion we have to contend with in this country. Of course, that also affects the riders and especially those who want to work and ride. It's a bit late now, as so many tracks have gone, but over the years, people have said the teams should be put in leagues based on where the track is located, i.e. Northern League, Eastern League etc, but for reasons best known to others, it never happened. For speedway to survive, there needs to be a complete overhaul, but 'limping on' seems to be the way it is presently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Ray Stadia said: There have been tracks over the years, who have operated during the week and successfully. What holds back many of us, from travelling outside our local areas, is the diabolical traffic congestion we have to contend with in this country. Of course, that also affects the riders and especially those who want to work and ride. It's a bit late now, as so many tracks have gone, but over the years, people have said the teams should be put in leagues based on where the track is located, i.e. Northern League, Eastern League etc, but for reasons best known to others, it never happened. For speedway to survive, there needs to be a complete overhaul, but 'limping on' seems to be the way it is presently. I presume that there hasn't been a 'root and branch' overhaul because those 'in control' don't see anything wrong with their operating model and business plan...? And fair play to them too... Can't be easy constantly avoiding the obvious year after year, after year... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 7 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Victory parades with the whole team.on the back of a truck have fallen victim to the covid rules this season... The match I attended at Belle Vue against Peterborough definitely had both teams on the truck on a parade lap after the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted June 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 I tend to go for a variety of exciting and close racing not posing though I do enjoy the riders parade prior to racing. Tiger Tom Leadbitter with his pom pom hat lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bruiser said: The match I attended at Belle Vue against Peterborough definitely had both teams on the truck on a parade lap after the draw. Which just goes to prove what a miss mash eff up it is all round from the powers that be (general not speedway in this instance!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) On 6/21/2021 at 12:26 PM, iainb said: Then send them round on a bike, it's so easy to do Are you referring to the Mark Thorpe incident at Swindon around 30 years ago? I believe a rule was introduced after that, that a rider couldn't be on the track at the same time as a tractor... nothing to do with helmets and parades. 2019 at BV the riders used to come round without helmets on and line up in front of the grandstands so the fans could see who they are and what they look like, more important than ever these days with them all wearing the same race suits, or they may as well just be robots. The parade at Leicester the other week saw all of the riders wearing helmets with the exception of Josh Auty... bizarre! Was the rule about a tractor not being on the track at the same time as riders not brought in as a result of Jamie Smith being hit by a tractor on track in the 00's. He was given a massive settlement, something that he refered to in a recent interview which was written and published in the Speedway Star by Peter Oakes. I think Mark Thorp might have been riding on the tractor and he got mangled by it, something like what happened to Guy Allott and finished his career. Edited June 23, 2021 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) Thorpe was hit by the grader when turning around at the tapes, if I recall correctly Edited June 21, 2021 by frigbo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Of course tractors used to park up on the centre green, on safety grounds that’s no longer. Didn’t a rider get killed at Ellesmere Port practice when he lost control of his bike and tangled with the tractor on the centre green. There was a Polish match I was watching on the internet recently when even the start girls walked into the stands rather then the centre green after they had strutted their stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Of course tractors used to park up on the centre green, on safety grounds that’s no longer. Didn’t a rider get killed at Ellesmere Port practice when he lost control of his bike and tangled with the tractor on the centre green. There was a Polish match I was watching on the internet recently when even the start girls walked into the stands rather then the centre green after they had strutted their stuff. I remember when Trevor Geer's out of control bike mounted the white kerb and sped across the centre green near the start line and hit a marshall breaking his leg. Edited June 22, 2021 by steve roberts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 10 hours ago, frigbo said: Thorpe was hit by the grader when turning around at the tapes, if I recall correctly That's how I remember it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 In the original days the national league I think most of the riders had jobs outside of speedway, most of the teams were almost all British, Arena Essex in 1990 had Martin Goodwin, Rob Tilbury, Troy Pratt, Wayne Garrett rip, Kevin Brice, Simon Wolstenholme and Adrian Stevens, no one doubling up or down, none of those riders rode for anyone else anywhere bar a rare guest appearance. those days are long gone and the current practice of doubling up is not sustainable. should be one biggish league next season, time to start giving the youth a better chance to ride more frequently and on a greater variety of tracks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRudge Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, marko said: In the original days the national league I think most of the riders had jobs outside of speedway, most of the teams were almost all British, Arena Essex in 1990 had Martin Goodwin, Rob Tilbury, Troy Pratt, Wayne Garrett rip, Kevin Brice, Simon Wolstenholme and Adrian Stevens, no one doubling up or down, none of those riders rode for anyone else anywhere bar a rare guest appearance. those days are long gone and the current practice of doubling up is not sustainable. should be one biggish league next season, time to start giving the youth a better chance to ride more frequently and on a greater variety of tracks. Then Tilbury went to Long Eaton in 91 and got sacked lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Getting back to the rational. Can anyone tell my what is the reason for Wolves fielding so many foreign riders. I'm interested to know what the die hard fans think of this while they sit with their feet up on a Monday evening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Pieman72 said: Getting back to the rational. Can anyone tell my what is the reason for Wolves fielding so many foreign riders. I'm interested to know what the die hard fans think of this while they sit with their feet up on a Monday evening. It doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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