IainB Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 https://gtr.ukri.org/project/FE65A183-82CB-43DE-814C-BABA3658508E#/tabOverview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvm Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 Don't know, didn't click on the link, what is it? A virus or something else? Or are you expecting everybody to play Russian roulette, by clicking on random links and hope it's not a virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, pvm said: Don't know, didn't click on the link, what is it? A virus or something else? Or are you expecting everybody to play Russian roulette, by clicking on random links and hope it's not a virus. I clicked the link and so far nobody has died. It is a link to UK research and innovation website which gives details of funding given to a company called P Mason engineering to develop a new 500cc engine for Speedway/ grass track etc. use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 why develop an engine when it will not be required in the next 3 years . speedway is finished ,as are most motor sports . it may have a use tho . Briggs n Stratton may use it in their lawn mowers. it will get the grass cut in half the time . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 hours ago, jenga said: why develop an engine when it will not be required in the next 3 years . speedway is finished ,as are most motor sports . it may have a use tho . Briggs n Stratton may use it in their lawn mowers. it will get the grass cut in half the time . Would you like to explain why you think most motor sports are finished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 Many motorsports are looking to turn to biofuels now. Speedway, obviously, is there already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 21 hours ago, pvm said: Don't know, didn't click on the link, what is it? A virus or something else? Or are you expecting everybody to play Russian roulette, by clicking on random links and hope it's not a virus. Sorry to have scared you lol You're not going to get a virus by clicking a link, you'll only get one if you download and install a program or open a document that it's encouraging to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 Looks like this company got £45k but it was back in 2010-11... I just wondered if anything ever came of it, or if it was more taxpayers money down the drain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 11 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Would you like to explain why you think most motor sports are finished? the bug (covid) will return big style and fans/supporters will get cheesed off . normal rallying has all but finished . only big events run. mx are finding it hard to find land for tracks . road rallying is finished . speedway is pricing itself out of joe bloggs pocket . there will not be young uns to carry on the support for most forms of sport . councils grabbing council tax . when you have paid your mortgage , you will still another one to donate money to like it or not . so we all ask for extra money at our place of work cos we are find it hard to live and that puts the price of their product up . big circle ! lots of workers are in working poverty . there is no way out . yep , speedway is all but gone . look @ the premier teams line ups and compare them to the championship line ups . almost the same .but life goes on , sort of . just my way of looking at things . right or left ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondboy Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, jenga said: the bug (covid) will return big style and fans/supporters will get cheesed off . normal rallying has all but finished . only big events run. mx are finding it hard to find land for tracks . road rallying is finished . speedway is pricing itself out of joe bloggs pocket . there will not be young uns to carry on the support for most forms of sport . councils grabbing council tax . when you have paid your mortgage , you will still another one to donate money to like it or not . so we all ask for extra money at our place of work cos we are find it hard to live and that puts the price of their product up . big circle ! lots of workers are in working poverty . there is no way out . yep , speedway is all but gone . look @ the premier teams line ups and compare them to the championship line ups . almost the same .but life goes on , sort of . just my way of looking at things . right or left ! Ok, thanks, I’ll write that down....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 But what about these engines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, iainb said: But what about these engines? It's a bit of a mystery isn't it? Looking at the company's website it appears that they are a subcontract engineering company offering CNC milling and turning services rather than being a design authority. I guess you will have done the same but doing a Google search, nothing comes up at all about this company and a speedway engine other than the page that you linked. I would be interested to know more about it and you would have thought someone in Speedway circles would have been involved and/or know something about it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, AFCB Wildcat said: It's a bit of a mystery isn't it? Looking at the company's website it appears that they are a subcontract engineering company offering CNC milling and turning services rather than being a design authority. I guess you will have done the same but doing a Google search, nothing comes up at all about this company and a speedway engine other than the page that you linked. I would be interested to know more about it and you would have thought someone in Speedway circles would have been involved and/or know something about it? The only 2 relatively recent "new" engines I can recall are the ones that Lee Richardson was using when he first rode for Coventry, which is way too early for this and the ones Adam Skornicki was riding when he made his comeback for Wolves, which I think would be too late for the 2010-11 date. I know Godden have been dabbling for a while and then there are the GTR's but they're not British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 Nobody mentions the type of fuel used though with it being high compression I expect it to be methanol. British speedway needs an inexpensive reliable home grown billet engine hopefully emulating the Weslake that may encourage younger riders to give Speedway or Grasstrack a try. I am surprise it has not been tried before though with engines of differing capacities and fuel could make the project commercially viable. Good luck to the investment organisation/company hopefully it may see the light of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 20 hours ago, Pieman72 said: Nobody mentions the type of fuel used though with it being high compression I expect it to be methanol. British speedway needs an inexpensive reliable home grown billet engine hopefully emulating the Weslake that may encourage younger riders to give Speedway or Grasstrack a try. I am surprise it has not been tried before though with engines of differing capacities and fuel could make the project commercially viable. Good luck to the investment organisation/company hopefully it may see the light of day. It wasn't around the time they were giving the converted Honda's a go was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, iainb said: It wasn't around the time they were giving the converted Honda's a go was it? The HONDA trial was in 1998. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman72 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 They never really got off the ground because they had to lob off the gearbox. That seems to be the unique element of a speedway engine. The biggest problem is the lack of manufacturing capacity in the uk and the costs involved for a bespoke product would be horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 450cc by the late great Peter Seaton I believe KTM, Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki engines 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Tsunami said: The HONDA trial was in 1998. Blimey! That long ago! Guess I'm getting old lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 P Mason Engineering still exists according to Companies House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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