Ryan555 Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 Think the Scunny boys deserve some respect because not many teams will go to Leicester this season and make 40 points fair play the lads Simon Lambert seems to be solid along with Jorgensen and Aarnio think a lot and me included predicted a bigger thrashing tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebee Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 Hope that Josh Auty is OK. The crash in heat 11 didn't look good. Unfortunately had to leave early when it was clear there was going to be a delay waiting for an ambulance. The risers made a good effort but the track was so dry and dusty. Surely the weather was clearly going to to be hot so why wasn't the track watered more extensively before the start? Feel really sorry for Josh Bates. After watching him on TV for Sheffield he had another nightmare of a meeting. He is clearly trying - in fact, he's trying too hard. He clearly needs support as his confidence is shot. I worry about a rider who is so desperate - he's going to be impetuous and put himself at risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, bluebee said: He's going to be impetuous and put himself at risk. ... And others 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScunnyDan Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) Firstly, I sent my best wishes to Josh Auty, and hope any injury sustained isn't major.. Racing got better as the night went on... track prep in hot hot weather must be difficult, well done to the lions track staff... Scorpions did themselfs proud tonight, not many teams will get 40+ at the lions den oh, the chippy was quality too Edited June 13, 2021 by ScunnyDan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebee Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, iainb said: ... And others Indeed that is a possibility. But it will be himself that he'll put at risk first. He's still young and I remember the promise he showed when I first saw him a Coventry. I don't want to see another rider lost to the sport. Support rather than criticism is clearly required. Back to the track. It was one of the dustiest I've seen for a long time. It needed more water than it was given - even during the meeting. I know track prep can be difficult but weather conditions were not changeable or difficult to predict. Leicester simply got it wrong on this occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, bluebee said: Feel really sorry for Josh Bates. After watching him on TV for Sheffield he had another nightmare of a meeting. He is clearly trying - in fact, he's trying too hard. He clearly needs support as his confidence is shot. I worry about a rider who is so desperate - he's going to be impetuous and put himself at risk. I doubt if his confidence is shot. He has been desperate and dangerous for years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Ryan555 said: Think the Scunny boys deserve some respect because not many teams will go to Leicester this season and make 40 points fair play the lads Simon Lambert seems to be solid along with Jorgensen and Aarnio think a lot and me included predicted a bigger thrashing tonight Berwick managed 41, we’re pish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Dusty track, no contest, long delays due to inadequate medical cover and track grading, track still showing signs of big holes in it just like in 2019, 15 minutes racing crammed into 2 and a half hours and there would have been a sun delay if it wasn't for Auty's crash... and all for £17 + £1 booking fee... But on this occasion I didn't really care, it was just good to be out on a beautiful summers evening watching some Speedway at my local track. Thompson twins impressed me again, Bates was comical at times trying to stay on his bike, sometimes succeeding other times not, if he's not retired by then, surely he'll be at reserve soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 10 hours ago, bluebee said: Indeed that is a possibility. But it will be himself that he'll put at risk first. He's still young and I remember the promise he showed when I first saw him a Coventry. I don't want to see another rider lost to the sport. Support rather than criticism is clearly required. Back to the track. It was one of the dustiest I've seen for a long time. It needed more water than it was given - even during the meeting. I know track prep can be difficult but weather conditions were not changeable or difficult to predict. Leicester simply got it wrong on this occasion. It was watered thoroughly before the meeting: I saw it being done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan555 Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Skodaman said: It was watered thoroughly before the meeting: I saw it being done. Well it sounds like it needed to be done throughout like Rob did at Scunthorpe on Friday night ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Skodaman said: has anyone noticed that twice in the last two meetings at leicester, some riders have returned to the pits after a starting offence without penalty!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, Skodaman said: It was watered thoroughly before the meeting: I saw it being done. That may well have been the case... it clearly needed watering after the parade (why was everybody wearing helmets except from Josh Auty) and before heat 1. Then the same old practice of then watering it from mid-track to the fence when all the riders are riding the inside line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, iainb said: That may well have been the case... it clearly needed watering after the parade (why was everybody wearing helmets except from Josh Auty) and before heat 1. Then the same old practice of then watering it from mid-track to the fence when all the riders are riding the inside line Stewart Dickson admitted that he had not watered enough pre-meeting. So you didn't notice the outside racing lines lines that in particular Proctor, Jorgensen, Lambert (along with others) were taking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 It’s pleasing to hear that Josh Auty has escaped serious injuries other than deep concussion as at one point he was quite poorly and it looked like it was going to be a major incident hence why it took so long to get him off track and why none of the medical staff could return to the track until he was in the care of county ambulance who to be fair to last night were very prompt once they knew the potential severity of the injuries. Hopefully Josh he will be back on a bike in the next few weeks and to me was just a racing incident Stewart was very open and admitted that the track was too slick to start with but one of the issues you have a Leicester is bends 3 & 4 are not in the sun at the same time during evening meetings so if water heavy just before the start it is very wet coming out of bend 4 . With regards to Sun breaks these are essential for rider safety and a prime example of this was at Scunthorpe on Friday night Adam Roynons crash in heat 15 was caused by sunlight in his eyes On the team front it was good to see Ty Proctor looking more comfortable on the bike and scoring good points, Josh Bates form is very concerning and it’s not a speed issue he is not getting out of the start and riding wrong lines not just for Leicester but also for Sheffield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, iainb said: That may well have been the case... it clearly needed watering after the parade (why was everybody wearing helmets except from Josh Auty) and before heat 1. Then the same old practice of then watering it from mid-track to the fence when all the riders are riding the inside line It’s pretty obvious nowadays the watering from mid track to the fence is because that’s what the riders want,and is just to keep the dust down for spectators,no regard in trying to improve the racing.Gate and Go rules the day.You only have to watch Polish track watering to see how it is done,unfortunately we are not in the league regarding equipment and track prep these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringitsneck Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It’s pretty obvious nowadays the watering from mid track to the fence is because that’s what the riders want,and is just to keep the dust down for spectators,no regard in trying to improve the racing.Gate and Go rules the day.You only have to watch Polish track watering to see how it is done,unfortunately we are not in the league regarding equipment and track prep these days. Do you spend a lot of pre match days watching track men water tracks ? Your comments suggest not! It’s a dark art and unless your involved in such activity the average fan has no comprehension on the difficulties involved in preparing a track to suit good racing, the fans and the weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ringitsneck said: Do you spend a lot of pre match days watching track men water tracks ? Your comments suggest not! It’s a dark art and unless your involved in such activity the average fan has no comprehension on the difficulties involved in preparing a track to suit good racing, the fans and the weather. The Promotions are running business, they should be getting it right to entertain the paying public difficult or not.Poland get it right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebee Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ringitsneck said: Do you spend a lot of pre match days watching track men water tracks ? Your comments suggest not! It’s a dark art and unless your involved in such activity the average fan has no comprehension on the difficulties involved in preparing a track to suit good racing, the fans and the weather. Well the dark art didn't work and that was by admission of Leicester's own management! The track was slick and dusty and hope that the management can sort it out bit better the next time. If lessons are learnt then that's fine by me. On to a cheerier note I thought the crowd was good considering. It was nice to see a range of ages too which seems to contradict the impression sometimes given on this forum. Teenagers, young families at us oldies Leicester is the nearest track to me now Brandon has gone. It seems a nice club - all the people I interacted with - car park, gate, ticket office were very friendly and helpful. It was so good to be back at a speedway track again despite the problems. The best thing to say is - I'll be back! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Gambo said: Stewart Dickson admitted that he had not watered enough pre-meeting. So you didn't notice the outside racing lines lines that in particular Proctor, Jorgensen, Lambert (along with others) were taking? 1 hour ago, flagrag said: It’s pleasing to hear that Josh Auty has escaped serious injuries other than deep concussion as at one point he was quite poorly and it looked like it was going to be a major incident hence why it took so long to get him off track and why none of the medical staff could return to the track until he was in the care of county ambulance who to be fair to last night were very prompt once they knew the potential severity of the injuries. Hopefully Josh he will be back on a bike in the next few weeks and to me was just a racing incident Stewart was very open and admitted that the track was too slick to start with but one of the issues you have a Leicester is bends 3 & 4 are not in the sun at the same time during evening meetings so if water heavy just before the start it is very wet coming out of bend 4 . With regards to Sun breaks these are essential for rider safety and a prime example of this was at Scunthorpe on Friday night Adam Roynons crash in heat 15 was caused by sunlight in his eyes On the team front it was good to see Ty Proctor looking more comfortable on the bike and scoring good points, Josh Bates form is very concerning and it’s not a speed issue he is not getting out of the start and riding wrong lines not just for Leicester but also for Sheffield I'm at a bit of a loss to understand what track watering is designed to achieve in this country, is it to keep the dust down for the fans or to make the track better for the riders? All I know is that when the track is watered in the GP's or on Polish coverage the whole track is watered not just the outside. If you were watering to keep the fans clean and allow them to see the action they have paid for why would you not water the inside where all of the dust is coming from. The sun break seems to be a relatively modern phenomenon in Speedway, I'm not sure what's changed since when I started watching in the late 70's and now. I assume the start time has been changed to 7pm to try and avoid a sun delay, it wouldn't have made a difference last night anyway even without Auty's crash as the track work they carried out made things drag out. Glad to hear Auty's injury isn't as bad as was feared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cross Roads Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Give it a couple more meetings and believe we will start to become the force we are on paper. Have to say impressed with both the Thompson lads really developing fast breath of fresh air. Bates is a worry down to confidence as on his day can beat 80% of this league but time is running out to keep his place. Did any one notice after the incident the heats went very quickly 2 mins on pretty much after the previous race had finished why can’t this be the norm... only negative that frustrates me all we see is clubs in trouble crowds down but Leicester continues to be strong. Why is the no longer a proper rider intro, riders at the start line with bikes interview both captains and managers before meeting. Riding round intro is poor. Also riders should be told win heat lap of honour get the atmosphere going. Any way onwards and updates. Roll on Redcar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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