Anlas Tyres

[Rob B]

17 hours ago, stevehone said:

what tyres are being used in Poland?

what was the reason anlas was taken away from GPs part way through?

Poland use the Mitas tyre, what was used here previously.
 

The reason the Anlas was banned in GP’s was it was found to be too soft. It didn’t effect the GP riders as they use a new tyre for each ride pretty much but here a tyre is expected to do 5+ Heats they are not lasting. 

[wtf]

49 minutes ago, Rob B said:

Poland use the Mitas tyre, what was used here previously.
 

The reason the Anlas was banned in GP’s was it was found to be too soft. It didn’t effect the GP riders as they use a new tyre for each ride pretty much but here a tyre is expected to do 5+ Heats they are not lasting. 

Poland are using the Mitas and the 003 Anlas, the same tyre as we have here. Difference is obviously, yes each edge only does one race over there, same as they are now doing here with 2 tyres, bar heat 15

[mikebv]

3 hours ago, iainb said:

I don't buy all this "for our entertainment" business, some will no doubt want to put a show on for fans, but don't kid yourself it's primarily about doing it for themselves. You can see that by how many riders willingly come round to acknowledge the fans after a race win or close race.

Ask them to ride for free...

Then see how many 'ride for our entertainment'.....

Every current and ex rider I have ever spoken with talk about a) the money, b) the adrenaline rush, and c, (some not all) the (ahem) 'fringe benefits' of being a Speedway rider.. (more a 70's and 80's thing I think)..

[Sings4Speedway]

50 minutes ago, wtf said:

Poland are using the Mitas and the 003 Anlas, the same tyre as we have here. Difference is obviously, yes each edge only does one race over there, same as they are now doing here with 2 tyres, bar heat 15

For those leagues that supply tyres don't forget that the National League is an amateur league (or is it professional ) and doesn't supply tyres for free home and away (well some and some but....) even then they cannot fund double the amount of tyres, then of course there is the true amateur who is paying out a whole lot more for a tyre that offers less and less. No different to youth riders running a 19in rear wheel. The added expense over a season has gone up a fair wedge all because the BSPL put pen to paper on a deal that wasn't properly considered.......sound familiar

[old bob at herne bay]

8 hours ago, wtf said:

Believe me, they are very busy trying to swat it away and hide it under the carpet. Rumour has it there's now a special Anlas Lubricant that must be used on the inside of the tyre when fitting to make all the problems go away. You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. If this lot had another brain cell they'd be a plant. 

 

Probably that green goo that I used to use on my road bike to prevent punctures when I used tubed tyres. Lovely stuff jsut keep it of your hands.

As suggested on here, I am all in favout of pit stops, fuel top ups, chain adjustments,  tyre changes after 2 laps..... riders should be made to push start their own bikes after a pit stop to add to the excitement.

[marko]

How long will it be before we have an unsatisfactory start and all four riders have to return to the pits to change the rear tyre, as well as make clutch adjustments, top up the methonal, change the timing etc etc and four hours later we finally made it to heat 15

 

[Rob B]

he following tyre regulation has been agreed with immediate effect, up to and including the 13th of July 2021.

Tyre Regulations applicable to Premiership and Championship meetings – effective from Thursday 24th June 2021 to Tuesday 13th July 2021 inclusive.  

Two new Anlas – FIM/ANSWO3020 SW003 tyres will be issued to each rider per meeting at the following tracks.
- Peterborough
- Glasgow
- Scunthorpe
- Belle Vue

At all other tracks 7 new Anlas – FIM/ANSWO3020 SW003 tyres, plus 2 additional new Anlas – FIM/ANSWO3020 SW003 tyres, will be issued to each team.

The use / distribution of the 2 additional new Anlas – FIM/ANSWO3020 SW003 tyres will be at the Team Manager and Team Captains discretion following consultation with their teams' riders. 

Team Managers and Team Captains are reminded that;

Tyres are NOT rider specific.
Each rider may have a used [Anlas or Mitas] tyre, both edges having been used and is marked from a previous meeting, as an Emergency Spare as per SCB Reg. 04.2.19 – Page 55.

[Sings4Speedway]

39 minutes ago, Rob B said:

he following tyre regulation has been agreed with immediate effect, up to and including the 13th of July 2021.

Tyre Regulations applicable to Premiership and Championship meetings – effective from Thursday 24th June 2021 to Tuesday 13th July 2021 inclusive.  

Two new Anlas – FIM/ANSWO3020 SW003 tyres will be issued to each rider per meeting at the following tracks.
- Peterborough
- Glasgow
- Scunthorpe
- Belle Vue

At all other tracks 7 new Anlas – FIM/ANSWO3020 SW003 tyres, plus 2 additional new Anlas – FIM/ANSWO3020 SW003 tyres, will be issued to each team.

The use / distribution of the 2 additional new Anlas – FIM/ANSWO3020 SW003 tyres will be at the Team Manager and Team Captains discretion following consultation with their teams' riders. 

Team Managers and Team Captains are reminded that;

Tyres are NOT rider specific.
Each rider may have a used [Anlas or Mitas] tyre, both edges having been used and is marked from a previous meeting, as an Emergency Spare as per SCB Reg. 04.2.19 – Page 55.

Putting it out there first.....Ridiculous.....what on earth states that those listed 4 tracks are harder on tyres than the others? Any tracl on any day prepared a certain way can rip these new lumps of (insert expletive here) to bits. Sounds to me that there has been an admittance that the untested tyres are not up to task. 

Always glad to see that the NDL isn't worthy of any inclusion as ever

[Rob B]

At first was thinking why those 4 tracks, think they the most circular tracks? But then realised Sheffield not included and that’s big fast and circular. 

[topaz325]

What about Berwick?

 

Seems strange to me? 

Edited June 23, 2021 by topaz325

[bigcatdiary]

35 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Putting it out there first.....Ridiculous.....what on earth states that those listed 4 tracks are harder on tyres than the others? Any tracl on any day prepared a certain way can rip these new lumps of (insert expletive here) to bits. Sounds to me that there has been an admittance that the untested tyres are not up to task. 

Al

Space, Shape & Speed I am reliably told.

[Rob B]

37 minutes ago, topaz325 said:

What about Berwick?

 

Seems strange to me? 

Berwick isn’t circular (where riders sliding most of the way round) it has long straights. 

[Sings4Speedway]

5 minutes ago, Rob B said:

Berwick isn’t circular (where riders sliding most of the way round) it has long straights. 

Can see the circular argument at P'boro and Scunny but not Glasgow and Belle Vue. Doesn't sound like any considerations to how tracks are prepared has been listed? The tyres won't cook up as much on a deeper surface as they will a slick one so tracks like P'boro can vary greatly depending on preparation.

If its being done on safety grounds the all tracks should get two tyres per rider but sounds more like monetary input is having a say on it as usual.

[IronScorpion]

1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Putting it out there first.....Ridiculous.....what on earth states that those listed 4 tracks are harder on tyres than the others? Any tracl on any day prepared a certain way can rip these new lumps of (insert expletive here) to bits. Sounds to me that there has been an admittance that the untested tyres are not up to task. 

 

Maybe there has been checks on tyres at all tracks(Peterborough in the press) & at these 4 tracks they have been harder on wear with more complaints from riders.

Just putting it out there as a guess!

[Sings4Speedway]

3 minutes ago, IronScorpion said:

Maybe there has been checks on tyres at all tracks(Peterborough in the press) & at these 4 tracks they have been harder on wear with more complaints from riders.

Just putting it out there as a guess!

Whilst that seems/sounds likely it would be nice to see some of the data actually gathered rather than the usual hearsay. Where the tracks monitored significantly harder on tyres? Have all tracks been visited on multiple occasions? Its likely that a hot dry day with slick surface will give notably different results to a cold damp day with grip in the surface.

Just seen the NDL regs and they can use a new tyre and as many used (both edges) as they like so are probably in a stronger position than most CL clubs for once.

[topaz325]

Kyle Bickley reported earlier this month that his tyre had been ripped apart, not sure if it was at Berwick though.

[Rob B]

55 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Can see the circular argument at P'boro and Scunny but not Glasgow and Belle Vue. Doesn't sound like any considerations to how tracks are prepared has been listed? The tyres won't cook up as much on a deeper surface as they will a slick one so tracks like P'boro can vary greatly depending on preparation.

If its being done on safety grounds the all tracks should get two tyres per rider but sounds more like monetary input is having a say on it as usual.

Belle Vue is very close to circular, they are pretty much constantly sliding all way round at full throttle,

[HGould]

In one of the initial Press Comments it was suggested that there may be a "rogue batch".

They also indicated they were testing samples at all Tracks including Batch numbers.

None of those listed are technical tracks and all of them are Tracks where the throttle would normally be full on from start to finish and some can get a blue groove, which wouldn't help any tyre.

Its all conjecture and may be down to the "rogue batch" , may be down to heat, may be down to track conditions on specific days.

We may never know.

Hopefully the tests at the Tracks indicated will throw up something we may be told about.

At least they are doing something and not just turning a blind eye, so credit them for that at least.

[KIRKYLANE]

Allowing two tyres per meeting is tantamount to accepting that the tyres are not good enough.We have had many years where only one tyre is allowed.

[stevehone]

surely this just ups the costs, whoever has to pay whether it's riders or BSPL