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28 minutes ago, Rob B said:

It’s not just about places you have checked in. The app on phone is constantly monitoring who you have been close to, so if been close to someone eg on a bus or in a shop and they test positive few days later then you will get a notification. 

Is that right?  So the thing is constantly monitoring your movement?  If I turn off my phone presumably it can no longer do so, right?

Only asking as I got the 'ping' this morning and I've only checked in at the NSS on Monday. I've tested this morning and I'm negative but still have to isolate for 7 days. It suggests that I was near someone on Monday who subsequently tested positive so I have to isolate for the remainder of the mandatory 10 days.

I sit in Block D, Row D ahead of the starting gate.  Only consolation is my isolation will be over before the next home match.

Hope nobody else tests positive.

 

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1 hour ago, Rob B said:

It’s not just about places you have checked in. The app on phone is constantly monitoring who you have been close to, so if been close to someone eg on a bus or in a shop and they test positive few days later then you will get a notification. 

I don't think that is right . I believe that was originally intended but never happened due to technical issues

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2 hours ago, coldace said:

Is that right?  So the thing is constantly monitoring your movement?  If I turn off my phone presumably it can no longer do so, right?

Only asking as I got the 'ping' this morning and I've only checked in at the NSS on Monday. I've tested this morning and I'm negative but still have to isolate for 7 days. It suggests that I was near someone on Monday who subsequently tested positive so I have to isolate for the remainder of the mandatory 10 days.

I sit in Block D, Row D ahead of the starting gate.  Only consolation is my isolation will be over before the next home match.

Hope nobody else tests positive.

 

Yes it uses Bluetooth to monitor who you are close to, think you have to be close to them for over 10 mins, so just waking past someone wouldn’t log etc. You can turn it off in the app, it’s called contact tracing.

1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

I don't think that is right . I believe that was originally intended but never happened due to technical issues

Incorrect, it’s the main way the app works using Bluetooth. It’s not going to be done by just checking in to a venue, as they not going to tell 1000 people to isolate as don’t know who been close to who. 
 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-covid-19-app-has-been-downloaded-over-10-million-times

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4 hours ago, BarracudaAce said:

A friend of mine who was at the NSS on Monday has just told me that he has just had the NHS  track & trace app message to say he has been in contact with someone with Covid, and must now self isolate.

He has only 'checked in' with the app at two places - the NSS and one other place -  and, as I haven't had the same message, we are assuming it will be from his visit elsewhere.

However, just to see if the app is working properly, has anyone who was at the NSS on Monday had such a message?

No message on my phone

 

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1 hour ago, Rob B said:

Yes it uses Bluetooth to monitor who you are close to, think you have to be close to them for over 10 mins, so just waking past someone wouldn’t log etc. You can turn it off in the app, it’s called contact tracing.

Thanks Rob.  I wondered how it worked.  I'm now doubtful as to whether the source was the NSS as the guys I sat with have had no similar notification.  

Must have come up against some dodgy person around Chorley where I live!

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1 hour ago, Rob B said:

Yes it uses Bluetooth to monitor who you are close to, think you have to be close to them for over 10 mins, so just waking past someone wouldn’t log etc. You can turn it off in the app, it’s called contact tracing.

Incorrect, it’s the main way the app works using Bluetooth. It’s not going to be done by just checking in to a venue, as they not going to tell 1000 people to isolate as don’t know who been close to who. 
 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nhs-covid-19-app-has-been-downloaded-over-10-million-times

Thanks Rob, and that makes it all sound very logical.

More so, as I now have found out that of 5 of us sat in various locations within Block D on Monday night - and had checked in via the QR code - just 3 have received the message from the App.

However, I'm now thinking I'm not fully seeing the wood from the trees here!! If it is the App's Bluetooth monitoring ability that detects and notifies you to isolate e.g., after it has detected that you have been near someone in a stadium for at least 10 mins and that person later tests positive - then why is there a need for checking-in via the QR code? The QR code must do something else I presume then?

I'm presuming too that those attendees who don't have the App, don't check-in via the QR code, and have their details taken by the NSS staff that these details must include their seat locations?

 

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5 minutes ago, BarracudaAce said:

Thanks Rob, and that makes it all sound very logical.

More so, as I now have found out that of 5 of us sat in various locations within Block D on Monday night - and had checked in via the QR code - just 3 have received the message from the App.

However, I'm now thinking I'm not fully seeing the wood from the trees here!! If it is the App's Bluetooth monitoring ability that detects and notifies you to isolate e.g., after it has detected that you have been near someone in a stadium for at least 10 mins and that person later tests positive - then why is there a need for checking-in via the QR code? The QR code must do something else I presume then?

I'm presuming too that those attendees who don't have the App, don't check-in via the QR code, and have their details taken by the NSS staff that these details must include their seat locations?

 

That is something that I was wondering about the ‘check in’ too. I thought that originally was more designed for small cafes and restaurants etc so they had a record who was in a what times.

At a big venue they are not going to tell everyone to isolate, my mate doesn’t have the app and has to give his name and number and stands in south stand, they have no idea who he is near. I get the feeling it’s just a stipulation that the council making them do. 

https://faq.covid19.nhs.uk/article/KA-01312/en-us?parentid=CAT-01033&rootid=

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