Haywood Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 I note that it is Pride Month and wondered what Speedway clubs are doing to celebrate this, if anything anything? Ice Hockey had a Pride Weekend and it was a great success. https://www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/827-eihl-s-pride-weekend-arguably-most-impactful-in-pro-hockey I was a bit sceptical at first and didn't really understand the concept. And, to be honest, I couldn't even tell you what all the initials in the acronym LGBTQ+ stand for. But all the players and fans really embraced the concept and I did find it helped my engagement as a fan, even though I have been a season ticket holder for the Guildford Flames for 15 years. I soon realised it was just about celebrating difference and coming together as a community. It really made me feel I was, in a small way, a part of a community I was genuinely proud to be a part of. It also helped turn a standard League match into more of a special occasion. Definitely seems to be an idea worth considering. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 I am all for happy speedway riders shaking hands after a close race. Happy riders make happy fans. Let’s go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trevor Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 I don't think Speedway should go down the 'adopt a trendy cause month'. Other sports feel compelled to display how virtuous they are, kneel for this, stand for that, wave for the other etc. Where does it end? Colour blind awareness month (No red, green lights) Left, Right, history month, where riders ride clockwise, then anticlockwise in alternate heats. Empathy for loosers month, where the rider finishing last gets four points? Enough of this wokery. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daniel Smith Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 Why is being gay worth celebrating?? We're all the same, we should treat all as the same. It would also be classed as Homophobic if there was such a thing as 'straight pride'. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 What a crock of rubbish. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 I used to like Mothers Pride but prefer Warburtons now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood Posted June 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Trevor said: I don't think Speedway should go down the 'adopt a trendy cause month'. Other sports feel compelled to display how virtuous they are, kneel for this, stand for that, wave for the other etc. Where does it end? Colour blind awareness month (No red, green lights) Left, Right, history month, where riders ride clockwise, then anticlockwise in alternate heats. Empathy for loosers month, where the rider finishing last gets four points? Enough of this wokery. So are you saying Speedway has such a massive fan base it doesn't need to do this? Whereas a struggling minority sport like Ice Hockey need to do something a bit more to bring the fans in? Guildford Flames average around 1800 per game and have over 500 season ticket holders (pre covid). I am sure there are a few Speedway clubs who would like to be in that position. And the big arenas teams such as Sheffield and Nottingham have a lot bigger crowds. I am sure Colour Blindness is a cause well worth highlighting and Colour Blind Awareness Day is in September so could fit nicely for the end of season for a non-Playoff team. Sounds like a great idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Why is being gay worth celebrating?? We're all the same, we should treat all as the same. It would also be classed as Homophobic if there was such a thing as 'straight pride'. If the OPs Pride month is allowed isn't that positive discrimination if 'straight pride' isn't ? Nothing phobic just if it's okay for the goose why not for the gander (you get my drift) ? And why a month (colour blindness only gets a day) ? The beeb have already had a month for this plus another for blm too this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vince Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 I don't get the Gay pride thing at all, nobody should be ashamed of their sexuality but being proud of it is like being proud of having dark hair or blue eyes, it's not an achievement. While we are on the subject how come Homosexuals are always grouped with transgender people or those who refuse to identify when it is all completely different things that are not any more to do with being gay than straight in many cases. Are we to assume that every gay person thinks there should be no sexual identification? In which case why would they be proud to be gay? Or are we to assume that all straight people are completely unaccepting of minorities while all gay people are completely tolerant of all other aspects of sexuality and identification? Or, as seems most likely to me, are we to assume it's about the loud minority yet again needing to make themselves feel more important while the majority just want to get on with life regardless of what they think about sex and identification? 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 14 hours ago, Trevor said: I don't think Speedway should go down the 'adopt a trendy cause month'. Other sports feel compelled to display how virtuous they are, kneel for this, stand for that, wave for the other etc. Where does it end? Colour blind awareness month (No red, green lights) Left, Right, history month, where riders ride clockwise, then anticlockwise in alternate heats. Empathy for loosers month, where the rider finishing last gets four points? Enough of this wokery. Speedway could do with adopting any cause it possibly can, to be honest. Surely speedway needs to be trendy. People need to remember that it is only in my own lifetime that homosexuality has even become legal, so you must admit there is something of a legitimate cause here. The right for gay people to join the armed forces was only officially lifted as recently as 2016. Gay Pride may not be your sort of thing, but you have to acknowledge the reasoning behind it surely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest compost Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 47 minutes ago, Grachan said: 1. The right for gay people to join the armed forces was only officially lifted as recently as 2016. 2. Gay Pride may not be your sort of thing, but you have to acknowledge the reasoning behind it surely. 1. This was lifted for openly same sex etc. not closet - if you said and did nothing you could still join up and a number did. Don't forget that it was also around this time that women were first recruited into combat posts in the British and US armies (I can't be bothered to check the actual dates) so it was a time of change (and falling recruitment numbers resulting in a more 'open' approach to fill places). 2. Only if there was allowed to be 'straight pride' as well, and there isn't. Fair to all and equal to all, equally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, compost said: 1. This was lifted for openly same sex etc. not closet - if you said and did nothing you could still join up and a number did. Don't forget that it was also around this time that women were first recruited into combat posts in the British and US armies (I can't be bothered to check the actual dates) so it was a time of change (and falling recruitment numbers resulting in a more 'open' approach to fill places). 2. Only if there was allowed to be 'straight pride' as well, and there isn't. Fair to all and equal to all, equally. 1 - So that's descrimination then. 2 - Where does it say that there's not allowed to be a straight pride? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 Maybe a MOWMO awards .... Music of White Male Origin. In the interests of fairness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackneyHawk Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 13 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Why is being gay worth celebrating?? We're all the same, we should treat all as the same. It would also be classed as Homophobic if there was such a thing as 'straight pride'. See this is the average intellect of the Speedway fan and I have to say organisers/promoters too. Speedway is dying out and a large part of the reason is that many people involved in the sport are as thick as sh*t 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackneyHawk Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HackneyHawk said: See this is the average intellect of the Speedway fan and I have to say organisers/promoters too. Speedway is dying out and a large part of the reason is that many people involved in the sport are as thick as sh*t No to Speedway celebrating Pride. Not because Pride isn't worth celebrating (it really is) but if Speedway did it, it would be an embarrassing, clumsy load of old crap along the lines of much of the way British speedway is run/presented generally Edited June 3, 2021 by HackneyHawk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, HackneyHawk said: See this is the average intellect of the Speedway fan and I have to say organisers/promoters too. Speedway is dying out and a large part of the reason is that many people involved in the sport are as thick as sh*t But clever enough to know that somebody having a different point of view and expressing it politely takes more intelligence than name calling! Edited June 3, 2021 by Vince 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ray Stadia Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 On this forum, we are constantly told the average speedway fan is upwards of age 50. Upwards of age 50, is likely to mean they are less tolerant to gay celebration events, so, in my opinion, I don't think it will go down very well with the average supporter. It's a generational thing. I'm 63 and I have no issue with LGBTQ+, but at the same time, I don't want my nose 'rubbed in it', which is what society seems to want to do, with many issues. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said: I don't want my nose 'rubbed in it' costs extra 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 21 hours ago, Haywood said: I note that it is Pride Month and wondered what Speedway clubs are doing to celebrate this, if anything anything? Ice Hockey had a Pride Weekend and it was a great success. https://www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/827-eihl-s-pride-weekend-arguably-most-impactful-in-pro-hockey I was a bit sceptical at first and didn't really understand the concept. And, to be honest, I couldn't even tell you what all the initials in the acronym LGBTQ+ stand for. But all the players and fans really embraced the concept and I did find it helped my engagement as a fan, even though I have been a season ticket holder for the Guildford Flames for 15 years. I soon realised it was just about celebrating difference and coming together as a community. It really made me feel I was, in a small way, a part of a community I was genuinely proud to be a part of. It also helped turn a standard League match into more of a special occasion. Definitely seems to be an idea worth considering. It’s an entirely sensible and good thing to do. therefore speedway won’t be adopting it. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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