Paulco Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: We were truly awful tonight. Thankfully it was only Newcastle. Josh, Nathan and William not at it all. Don’t think it’s possible to ride worse than we did tonight this season. Thats breathtakingly arrogant . Maybe those riders weren't at it because the opposition rode well and didn't allow them.to be at it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Paulco said: Thats breathtakingly arrogant . Maybe those riders weren't at it because the opposition rode well and didn't allow them.to be at it Wasn’t meant to come across as arrogant. We just weren’t at it tonight at all. Newcastle were extremely average at best. Apart from Wright who was good value for money. however can only beat what’s in front of you as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Wasn’t meant to come across as arrogant. We just weren’t at it tonight at all. Newcastle were extremely average at best. Apart from Wright who was good value for money. however can only beat what’s in front of you as they say. Actually you beat what's behind you. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 Maybe early days but I question why the promotion let James Sarjeant go and retained Willie Lawson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Endeavour said: Maybe early days but I question why the promotion let James Sarjeant go and retained Willie Lawson. Probably couldn’t afford a full season of purchasing tapes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stewart Posted June 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) I do think Mr Blobby is being unfair to Newcastle (unusually because he is usually the wisest man on the BSF) because Mountain, Roynon, Clegg and Wethers as well as Wright were all good - too good for all except Masters and Worrall. It's true that we were bad though. Edited June 4, 2021 by Al Stewart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: We were truly awful tonight. Thankfully it was only Newcastle. Josh, Nathan and William not at it all. Don’t think it’s possible to ride worse than we did tonight this season. I think that's harsh on 2 of the 3 names you quoted there. Without wanting to disrespect some of their riders too much, Newcastle are a team that has no top end, but does have a solid middle to bottom end. Against a team like that, I would expect the Edinburgh top end to completely dominate at home, but would expect the mid to lower end to have a harder time. The scoring was close to what everyone expected apart from one rider in the Monarchs team... After that, you can probably guess which 1 of the 3 names I think really didn't deliver tonight...If 4 points had been 12 points, the scoreline would have been far more like what everyone expected. Edit - I used "everyone" a couple of times when I probably meant "I"...Apparently I think my views are the views of the general population...and that's probably far from true Edited June 5, 2021 by HenryW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 Not sure what went wrong for Edinburgh tonight but just as well Kyle Howarth was a poor guest for Newcastle. At 36-36 after heat 12, Edinburgh were unlikely to lose as they should power to 5-1s at home in 13 and 15, which proved the case. The score that really shows what happened is the last places: Edinburgh won that 10-5. James Wright might have been top scorer for Newcastle, but he didn’t really beat anyone that he shouldn’t have. It was the strong overall scoring by Newcastle that kept this close with a special mention due to Adam Roynon on what I’d guess was his first meeting at Armadale for a very long time. Edinburgh management will have expressed their disappointment at the performance of some of the team so the return leg is likely to be a different story. I’d expect an aggregate Edinburgh win unless Newcastle can field a competitive number one. Even then, it’s likely to be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonds7 Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 id say if kyle had a better night score MAY have been different , all the same quite happy with our performance as weve gone to edinburgh with stronger teams and got nowt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 16 hours ago, andys said: Don't bother trying to guess lottery numbers this weekend... Excellent performance from the diamonds Yup I was well wrong. The diamonds put up a great showing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Wee Eck said: Not sure what went wrong for Edinburgh tonight but just as well Kyle Howarth was a poor guest for Newcastle. At 36-36 after heat 12, Edinburgh were unlikely to lose as they should power to 5-1s at home in 13 and 15, which proved the case. The score that really shows what happened is the last places: Edinburgh won that 10-5. James Wright might have been top scorer for Newcastle, but he didn’t really beat anyone that he shouldn’t have. It was the strong overall scoring by Newcastle that kept this close with a special mention due to Adam Roynon on what I’d guess was his first meeting at Armadale for a very long time. Edinburgh management will have expressed their disappointment at the performance of some of the team so the return leg is likely to be a different story. I’d expect an aggregate Edinburgh win unless Newcastle can field a competitive number one. Even then, it’s likely to be close. Not quite sure how you figure that. He beat everyone except Masters and Worrall, who were a class apart, including Pickering twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 2 hours ago, leander said: Not quite sure how you figure that. He beat everyone except Masters and Worrall, who were a class apart, including Pickering twice. Just my view. James Wright is a former Premier League Riders Champion and former Scottish Open Champion so, although coming back from retirement, he’s no novice. Edinburgh last night were two heat leaders, four also rans and a non-scoring reserve. Wright beat non scoring Wooler twice, Greaves once, was 1-1 with Thomson, 2-1 against Lawson, who often tails off as the meeting goes on and 2-0 against Pickering, one being when Pickering fell. So that’s really just once. James was in good form on a track he knew well, so should have been expected to do well when 4 of the Monarchs were struggling. Had they ridden to previous form, he wouldn’t have done so well, in my view, hence my conclusion that seems to have upset you. The second leg will be interesting. If these four Monarchs race according to normal form, I doubt James will do as well. But that’s only my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 13 hours ago, Wee Eck said: But that’s only my opinion. Bit slanted Eck Wright is a couple of meetings back after an extended lay off... it's no different to when Willie Lawson made his come back and to be fair he's not set the world alight... James done pretty well up there considering... Regards THJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 6 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Bit slanted Eck Wright is a couple of meetings back after an extended lay off... it's no different to when Willie Lawson made his come back and to be fair he's not set the world alight... James done pretty well up there considering... Regards THJ It was my opinion, maybe badly phrased, that, although James was top scorer, it was the whole team that came through on the night. The expectation was that Newcastle would struggle at Armadale but they produced a great result. If you look at the headline numbers, it could be taken that the reason why Newcastle did so well was because of James, but actually, James simply did his job well. He didn’t beat either of Edinburgh’s top two, but managed to get amongst the points by beating riders who simply didn’t perform. Anyway, it’s looking as if the teams collective efforts on Friday will come to nothing as the Monarchs have come out with all guns blazing this afternoon…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Wee Eck said: It was my opinion, maybe badly phrased, that, although James was top scorer, it was the whole team that came through on the night. The expectation was that Newcastle would struggle at Armadale but they produced a great result. If you look at the headline numbers, it could be taken that the reason why Newcastle did so well was because of James, but actually, James simply did his job well. He didn’t beat either of Edinburgh’s top two, but managed to get amongst the points by beating riders who simply didn’t perform. Anyway, it’s looking as if the teams collective efforts on Friday will come to nothing as the Monarchs have come out with all guns blazing this afternoon…. Aye ya not wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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