Edinburgh v Redcar 28th May

[Mr Blobby]

24 minutes ago, Bellers101 said:

Maybe because some fans just wouldn't attend anymore and several would buy one stream and watch it with several people who would normally attend. £100+ gate receipts could turn into £11.99. It's great for the away supporter though!

It's probably more beneficial financially when there are attendance restrictions as people who missed out on tickets can purchase a pass. 

 

I know when doing the streaming in 2019 it was restricted. So you could only purchase the stream if you lived over 50 miles from the stadium. 
with restricted crowds at the moment that rule has been removed.

[Yearbyred]

23 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

I know when doing the streaming in 2019 it was restricted. So you could only purchase the stream if you lived over 50 miles from the stadium. 
with restricted crowds at the moment that rule has been removed.

As a supporter who rarely goes to away meetings this would work for me and I’d certainly be happy to pay for Bears away matches.

If Edinburgh can do it then other clubs can too.

[HenryW]

2 hours ago, Yearbyred said:

As a supporter who rarely goes to away meetings this would work for me and I’d certainly be happy to pay for Bears away matches.

If Edinburgh can do it then other clubs can too.

I agree 100%.
Edinburgh have led the way with streaming, and other tracks should be doing the same.
I recall that I got the chance to watch a Dale meeting live a couple of years ago when I was in Denmark for the week, and that was something completely new to me from British Speedway. I'm not sure that Edinburgh have received enough credit for their efforts in this area in the past. 
Tonight I got to enjoy a live stream when I wouldn't have been able to get to the stadium due to work commitments. 
With the pre-covid geo restrictions on the streams I wouldn't have had that opportunity.
Once crowd restrictions are removed, I assume the geo blocks will go back on. I wonder if there might be a chance to have a "local people" pay rate for the stream for those of us who just cannot get to the Dale in time after work? I'd be happy to pay the normal admission price to get a stream on the nights I can't make it...but I understand if the club wouldn't be keen to do this due to the potential of multiple locals watching a single stream.

[Racin Jason 72]

As a Ipswich fan I had watched the lockdown meetings on a Friday evening and really enjoyed what I saw so I purchased the stream last night. 
really enjoyed the meeting and I thought the pace was just right.  No long delays and any gaps were filled with informed chats with the riders. 
The price I thought initially was a bit high but thinking about it I couldn’t get a domino’s pizza for less and a cinema ticket is £15 so actually it is probably about right but it would be too much to watch weekly possibly ??

well done to Edinburgh. 

[chun]

streaming could save british speedway.  not just marketing opportunities to away fans.  what about fans in Australia, the US or poland.  If all clubs could provide a stream then a monthly league pass could be sold internationally.

[Pinny]

How much is the stream? Anything more than a fiver and its a rip off in all honesty. 

[JanAndersen]

1 hour ago, Pinny said:

How much is the stream? Anything more than a fiver and its a rip off in all honesty. 

What absolute rubbish. What sort of entertainment (particularly PPV sport) are you getting for a fiver these days? I think it’s priced well. 

[Pinny]

Just now, JanAndersen said:

What absolute rubbish. What sort of entertainment (particularly PPV sport) are you getting for a fiver these days? I think it’s priced well. 

Really?

The sport in many peoples eyes, in person, is a ten quid sport. So to sit at home and watch it , a fiver is hardly un reasonable. 
 

Your telling me watching 15 heats of speedway in an empty stadium in the second tier of probably the 4th or even 5th ranked country for speedway is more than a fiver?! Do me a favour. 

[Racin Jason 72]

33 minutes ago, Pinny said:

Really?

The sport in many peoples eyes, in person, is a ten quid sport. So to sit at home and watch it , a fiver is hardly un reasonable. 
 

Your telling me watching 15 heats of speedway in an empty stadium in the second tier of probably the 4th or even 5th ranked country for speedway is more than a fiver?! Do me a favour. 

Have you gone to the cinema lately ???? It’s £15 at a multi plex   The drinks and food are very expensive.  Where can you go out for a evening for a tenner ?????

 

[Hacksaw Jim Duggan]

Majority of cinemas are about £5.99/£8.00 these days per person, its about 10 years since it was £15.00 a head, they had tailored cost to account for a crashing market even before Covid, food, like at speedway is optional but the base cost for tickets has come down a lot.  A cinema is also an out of home experience, these days you can rent films online or having streaming services on constant demand. 

NBA League Pass is £25.00 for the entire duration of the play offs

Premier Sport pass is £10.99 for a month 

Eurosport is £6.99 

Using both these services you could feasibly watch about 4 or 5 meetings in a month. 

Now TV Day pass is £9.98

Netflix is about £5.99 a month

I appreciate the need for the revenue of streaming a meeting, but anyone acting like it is value for money is being a bit silly, its an admirable product priced at diehard fans rather than likely to attract that must floating interest 

Edited May 29, 2021 by Hacksaw Jim Duggan

[Yearbyred]

Of course it’s a limited market, I certainly wouldn’t suggest it’s competing with all the other streaming services above.

But if clubs can get in extra revenue in these difficult times then I can’t see why people are against it? I’m sure Edinburgh are grateful for the extra monies last night.

 

[Pinny]

1 hour ago, Hacksaw Jim Duggan said:

Majority of cinemas are about £5.99/£8.00 these days per person, its about 10 years since it was £15.00 a head, they had tailored cost to account for a crashing market even before Covid, food, like at speedway is optional but the base cost for tickets has come down a lot.  A cinema is also an out of home experience, these days you can rent films online or having streaming services on constant demand. 

NBA League Pass is £25.00 for the entire duration of the play offs

Premier Sport pass is £10.99 for a month 

Eurosport is £6.99 

Using both these services you could feasibly watch about 4 or 5 meetings in a month. 

Now TV Day pass is £9.98

Netflix is about £5.99 a month

I appreciate the need for the revenue of streaming a meeting, but anyone acting like it is value for money is being a bit silly, its an admirable product priced at diehard fans rather than likely to attract that must floating interest 

Exactly what i mean - its ok if you want to tune in and watch your side away racing , but as a home supporter every week youd be better of paying to go every week. 
 

 

[Falcon1983]

I used to stream my MMA promotion we done them free worldwide but had to bare the costs of the stream which isnt cheap in itself.

A streaming service should be run by the BSPA for X amount of meetings per month for a one-off monthly fee with the profit going into marketing the sport

£6.99 a month marketed at ALL fans would work better than individual clubs bareing these costs 

[ch958]

the 50 mile exclusion zone sounds like a plan

[enotian]

1 hour ago, ch958 said:

the 50 mile exclusion zone sounds like a plan

Can't you just VPN to appear to be more than 50 miles away? That's a thing isn't it?

[Mr Blobby]

1 hour ago, Pinny said:

Exactly what i mean - its ok if you want to tune in and watch your side away racing , but as a home supporter every week youd be better of paying to go every week. 
 

 

Just so you’re aware not sure if you are. Crowds are currently restricted. So it’s currently available to everyone. However once crowds are no longer restricted up here I believe it will be going back to the 50 miles exclusion zone. 
 

Tbh the streaming was aimed at away fans or fans who were abroad or too far away to travel to the matches so they still had a chance to watch their team. Obviously with covid it’s came in extremely handy with the predicament we’ve found ourselves in.

[Yearbyred]

3 minutes ago, enotian said:

Can't you just VPN to appear to be more than 50 miles away? That's a thing isn't it?

You can, but normally that’s to get around paying full price ( not that I’d know obviously......)

Think we are getting away from the point, that streaming could be a way of clubs getting more revenue. 

Yes it has issues but anything that potentially brings more money into any club is worth looking at.

[enotian]

2 minutes ago, Yearbyred said:

You can, but normally that’s to get around paying full price ( not that I’d know obviously......)

Think we are getting away from the point, that streaming could be a way of clubs getting more revenue. 

Yes it has issues but anything that potentially brings more money into any club is worth looking at.

not if you're just converting £18 into £8 for someone who would have attended in person but now just watches from home.  Or worse still say a family of four who might have spent c£50 who now spend £8.

Does the income from away supporters and neutrals offset those losses and the cost of streaming?

If attending the event in person was a much better experience than watching from home it might be worth the risk.....

I've said before, I can see it working for shared events when multiple teams are involved but not for individual league matches.

[Yearbyred]

12 minutes ago, enotian said:

not if you're just converting £18 into £8 for someone who would have attended in person but now just watches from home.  Or worse still say a family of four who might have spent c£50 who now spend £8.

Does the income from away supporters and neutrals offset those losses and the cost of streaming?

If attending the event in person was a much better experience than watching from home it might be worth the risk.....

I've said before, I can see it working for shared events when multiple teams are involved but not for individual league matches.

That’s why I used the words “could “ and “potentially”. Easy to see the negatives in anything.

I did let my son watch the last heat last night so I’ll be sending Edinburgh extra money to compensate for their loss

[Joseq7]

56 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

Just so you’re aware not sure if you are. Crowds are currently restricted. So it’s currently available to everyone. However once crowds are no longer restricted up here I believe it will be going back to the 50 miles exclusion zone. 
 

Tbh the streaming was aimed at away fans or fans who were abroad or too far away to travel to the matches so they still had a chance to watch their team. Obviously with covid it’s came in extremely handy with the predicament we’ve found ourselves in.

How many were allowed in on Friday?