racers and royals Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, John Scrutton said: if anybody is ruining the sport its Poland ALL riders will ride for them and they couldn"t care about anyone else. Why’s that ? Friday’s and Sunday’s are their days- why Holder can’t ride on Thursday is uk’s problem no one elses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Holder is not riding in Poland until Friday May 28th start time 2030 local and it’s not re-arranged. So riding on Thursday in the UK and Friday in Poland should have been in Holders diary from the start. So by not riding on Thursday and RR he is with holding his services. The same as Klindt for Ipswich last week at Kings Lynn. A 28 day ban should also be forthcoming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Why’s that ? Friday’s and Sunday’s are their days- why Holder can’t ride on Thursday is uk’s problem no one elses. It's gotta be cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Holder is not riding in Poland until Friday May 28th start time 2030 local and it’s not re-arranged. So Jack's problem is not getting to Ipswich bit getting to Poland He is therefore choosing to withhold his services from Sheffield for a legitimate priority GB fixture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Holder is not riding in Poland until Friday May 28th start time 2030 local and it’s not re-arranged. So basically he just can't be arsed to race here Thursday, sticking his fingers up to all fans, clubs and sponsors. Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) He could fly Wizz air Luton to Warsaw Friday morning and be in Gorzow by 1600 local. Edited May 25, 2021 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Do what’s the deal.....can’t be bothered? Been told by Toruń to stay in Poland so he is fresh? Or can’t physically ride in both meetings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Do what’s the deal.....can’t be bothered? Been told by Toruń to stay in Poland so he is fresh? Or can’t physically ride in both meetings? Take your pick..... More and more fans are doing the 1st. And when there no sport in this country the "promotions " will only have themselves to blame for taking the current stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 I think it's cost of flights and tests, exceptional year, our promoters are up against it. Not that I'm blimmin stickin up for Ipswich of course, jeeeez! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Where's the lad Holder actually based ? UK ? Poland? If he is living in Poland always going to be an unreliable choice of rider for UK speedway. In the interests of the sport and giving the supporters something to watch I think R/R should be suspended and guests allowed to cover anyone in the main body of the team. If a 6 man team in put out then supporters should be entitled to receive a partial refund of their admission. Say £1 refund per rider missing ... and I for one would put it straight into the speedway riders benevolent fund bucket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Jack isn’t very good at Ipswich. Last time in the play off semifinal he faked injury so Poole could use R/R in his last two rides. trouble was he limped on the other leg he claimed firstly a toe injury and then it was his knee. more chance of Ritchie Hawkins riding at Edinburgh than holder at foxhall 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Jack isn’t very good at Ipswich. Last time in the play off semifinal he faked injury so Poole could use R/R in his last two rides. trouble was he limped on the other leg he claimed firstly a toe injury and then it was his knee. more chance of Ritchie Hawkins riding at Edinburgh than holder at foxhall Or you being Jason Crump's fan club secretary 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshiretyke Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Ye, some things never change in British Speedway. Same as the usual wining B*tches down Suffolk way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, yorkshiretyke said: Ye, some things never change in British Speedway. Same as the usual wining B*tches down Suffolk way You missed the h although I'd say it would be better if it was the n that was omitted Better a whining B*!ch with principles than sell out glory whores 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Trees said: I think it's cost of flights and tests, exceptional year, our promoters are up against it. Not that I'm blimmin stickin up for Ipswich of course, jeeeez! So the cost of flights and tests were ok last week for Dan Bewley to get to the NSS a day after racing in Poland? And Jack himself after riding in Poland the same weekend.. Amazing isn't it how it worked out ok then? Also amazing is how when a No1 is missing it always seems to be not at his home track but when riding away? I wonder if it was a Tigers v Witches fixture if their number one 'drawcard' would have been missing? Still, I suppose they have that many fans attending that one or two more deciding 'enough is enough' won't be even noticed... Just like those who already have given up over the past decade in particular seemingly haven't been noticed yet... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 hours ago, mikebv said: So the cost of flights and tests were ok last week for Dan Bewley to get to the NSS a day after racing in Poland? And Jack himself after riding in Poland the same weekend.. Amazing isn't it how it worked out ok then? Also amazing is how when a No1 is missing it always seems to be not at his home track but when riding away? I wonder if it was a Tigers v Witches fixture if their number one 'drawcard' would have been missing? Still, I suppose they have that many fans attending that one or two more deciding 'enough is enough' won't be even noticed... Just like those who already have given up over the past decade in particular seemingly haven't been noticed yet... I agree tbf, I'd be annoyed if I was a Sheffield fan of course, maybe I'm stupidly giving them/him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's a scenario like Klindt that he's told them he won't be available for all meetings, whether it be pressure from Poland or whatever ....... Sheffield are lucky to use r/r, as were Ipswich at Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Trees said: It's gotta be cost? It’s all about flights availability and costs, I mentioned at the start of the season that some leeway was going to be provided because it’s clear that until the flight availability returns to something like normality riders are going to struggle to get from Poland and Denmark etc into the U.K and vice versa. Unfortunately it was always going to be a can of worms and the BSPL have opened it, regulations were changed to allow facilities for riders who hadn’t yet ridden for their respective teams and going forward for those who would miss meetings due to travel problems. We will have to see if things change but at the moment this is what we have and I can see it going on for a while. I just hope that it’s consistent and applied properly to all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 But his meeting in Poland is re scheduled,,,,, this one isn't,, so should take priority, or are we bending over for the PZM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 11 hours ago, yorkshiretyke said: Ye, some things never change in British Speedway. Same as the usual wining B*tches down Suffolk way But to be fair they have something to whine about, they haven’t won anything since 1998 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: But to be fair they have something to whine about, they haven’t won anything since 1998 Hearts and minds, hearts and minds..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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